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	<title>Nabble - PrairiePhoto</title>
	<updated>2009-12-04T15:46:35Z</updated>
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	<subtitle type="html">A discussion group for not only photographers living on the Canadian Prairies and the Northern U.S. Midwest but those who maybe travelling through this area or just want to know more about this beautiful area of North America. Discussions can range from great shooting locations, retailers, labs, camera gear questions and help, anything and everything relevant to the subject of photography.</subtitle>
	
<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26651162</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Windmill</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T15:46:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T15:46:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>KironKid</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;In a message dated 12/4/09 2:55:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26651162&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gvincent@...&lt;/a&gt; writes:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi &amp;nbsp;KK,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nice image. Sad to say, I don't have a quality monitor anywhere, &amp;nbsp;BUT HERE 
&lt;br&gt;I'm looking at that windmill through a Samtron 15&amp;quot; CRT monitor that &amp;nbsp;is 
&lt;br&gt;younger than the windmill but possibly older than the antlers &amp;nbsp;:-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, is it the orange filter that deepens the tone of the sky? I &amp;nbsp;never used 
&lt;br&gt;many filters with film (shot mostly colour) and now I really only &amp;nbsp;use a 
&lt;br&gt;polarizer but I'm a bit reluctant to put a skylight in front of my &amp;nbsp;glass.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for sharing,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Yes, the Orange filter &amp;nbsp;dramatically darkens the sky.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Kiron &amp;nbsp;Kid
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26650611</id>
	<title>Re: Windmill</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T14:55:28Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T14:55:28Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Vincent</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi KK,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nice image. &amp;nbsp;Sad to say, I don't have a quality monitor anywhere, BUT HERE I'm looking at that windmill through a Samtron 15&amp;quot; CRT monitor that is younger than the windmill but possibly older than the antlers :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, is it the orange filter that deepens the tone of the sky? &amp;nbsp;I never used many filters with film (shot mostly colour) and now I really only use a polarizer but I'm a bit reluctant to put a skylight in front of my glass.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for sharing,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--- In &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26650611&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PrairiePhoto@...&lt;/a&gt;, KironKid@... wrote: 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Can't tell much from this crappy PC &amp;nbsp;Monitor at the shop. Delta 100 ( @ 80 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ), Nikon FE, Tamron SP 20-40 through &amp;nbsp;Orange filter.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26650172</id>
	<title>Windmill [1 Attachment]</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T14:21:37Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T14:21:37Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>KironKid</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Can't tell much from this crappy PC &amp;nbsp;Monitor at the shop. Delta 100 ( @ 80 
&lt;br&gt;), Nikon FE, Tamron SP 20-40 through &amp;nbsp;Orange filter. 
&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26650152</id>
	<title>Re: Congratulations</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T14:20:36Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T14:20:36Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>KironKid</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;In a message dated 12/4/09 2:12:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26650152&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gvincent@...&lt;/a&gt; writes:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of &amp;nbsp;our group has an image published in the &amp;quot;Manitoba's Credit Unions&amp;quot; 
&lt;br&gt;2010 &amp;nbsp;Calendar. (It is not &amp;nbsp;me)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Congratulations.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cool. Do tell.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26650033</id>
	<title>Congratulations</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T14:11:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T14:11:39Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Vincent</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">One of our group has an image published in the &amp;quot;Manitoba's Credit Unions&amp;quot; 2010 Calendar. &amp;nbsp;(It is not me)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Congratulations.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26320874</id>
	<title>Re: Geso: Sammie</title>
	<published>2009-11-12T07:38:30Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-12T07:38:30Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Brian Schnieder</name>
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	<content type="html">Nice shots, cute girl
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;From: William Robb &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26320874&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;warobb@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:18 pm
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [PrairiePhoto] Geso: Sammie
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Please allow me to introduce Sammie.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/gesos/studio/sammi1/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/gesos/studio/sammi1/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I think she is very pretty.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Anyway, tech stuff:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Pentax K-7/ iso 100.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 70mm LTD, around f/8.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Images are resized and processed only.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; All shots done with a 22&amp;quot; Beauty Dish, some had either a white or 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gold 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; reflector.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The shots with the bright background, that background is the Beauty 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dish 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; firing at 800 WS. The main light is actually a reflector.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sometimes I'm just friggin amazed at what SMC lets me do.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; William Robb 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26313617</id>
	<title>Geso: Sammie</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T21:18:28Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T21:18:28Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>William Robb-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Please allow me to introduce Sammie.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/gesos/studio/sammi1/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/gesos/studio/sammi1/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think she is very pretty.
&lt;br&gt;Anyway, tech stuff:
&lt;br&gt;Pentax K-7/ iso 100.
&lt;br&gt;70mm LTD, around f/8.
&lt;br&gt;Images are resized and processed only.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All shots done with a 22&amp;quot; Beauty Dish, some had either a white or gold 
&lt;br&gt;reflector.
&lt;br&gt;The shots with the bright background, that background is the Beauty Dish 
&lt;br&gt;firing at 800 WS. The main light is actually a reflector.
&lt;br&gt;Sometimes I'm just friggin amazed at what SMC lets me do.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;William Robb 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26271656</id>
	<title>Re: Print</title>
	<published>2009-11-09T10:50:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-09T10:50:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>kyle martens</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Will do, as soon as we get it back. There was a small glitch, which they are fixing.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--- On Tue, 11/3/09, &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26271656&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KironKid@...&lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26271656&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KironKid@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26271656&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KironKid@...&lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26271656&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KironKid@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Print
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26271656&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PrairiePhoto@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 7:16 PM
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kyle
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;   Take a snap of it hanging for us to see. I often print my work on metallic paper. With the proper tones, they look great. Especially the B/W prints.
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;Kiron Kid
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;In a message dated 11/3/2009 6:40:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, kyle_martens@ yahoo.com writes:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I picked up our print yesterday and I just wanted to pass on a tip to others who might be interested.
&lt;br&gt;We picked out our favorite shot we wanted to hang on the wall from our trip to Maui (a close-up of the bark of a eucalyptus tree) and had it &amp;quot;done up&amp;quot;. We had it printed at Lab Works on metallic paper at 26 x 32 inches. Then they mounted it on a thin hard board with flush edges and a stand-off back. Then they coated it with a thick layer of clear acrylic. The final result is PHENOMENAL!! ! It is a true WOW piece. The bark in the image is almost 3D and the light in the room glints off the lighter areas like a reflective road sign when you car lights hit it from a distance in the dark.
&lt;br&gt;Yes, it cost a penny or two, but it was DEFINITELY worth every bit and more. I highly recommend looking into it.
&lt;br&gt;Kyle
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;Kiron Kid
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the spirit&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; </content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26190429</id>
	<title>Re: Print</title>
	<published>2009-11-03T19:16:27Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-03T19:16:27Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>KironKid</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Kyle
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Take a snap of it hanging for us to see. I often print my work on 
&lt;br&gt;metallic paper. With the proper tones, they look great. Especially the B/W prints.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Kiron Kid
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;In a message dated 11/3/2009 6:40:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26190429&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kyle_martens@...&lt;/a&gt; writes:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I picked up our print yesterday and I just wanted to pass on a tip to 
&lt;br&gt;others who might be interested.
&lt;br&gt;We picked out our favorite shot we wanted to hang on the wall from our trip 
&lt;br&gt;to Maui (a close-up of the bark of a eucalyptus tree) and had it &amp;quot;done up&amp;quot;. 
&lt;br&gt;We had it printed at Lab Works on metallic paper at 26 x 32 inches. Then 
&lt;br&gt;they mounted it on a thin hard board with flush edges and a stand-off back. 
&lt;br&gt;Then they coated it with a thick layer of clear acrylic. The final result is 
&lt;br&gt;PHENOMENAL!!board with flush edges and a stand-off back. Then they coated it 
&lt;br&gt;with a thick layer of clear acrylic. The final result is PHENOMENAL!!&amp;lt;WBR&amp;gt;! 
&lt;br&gt;It is a true WOW piece. The bark in the image is almost 3D
&lt;br&gt;Yes, it cost a penny or two, but it was DEFINITELY worth every bit and 
&lt;br&gt;more. I highly recommend looking into it.
&lt;br&gt;Kyle
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Kiron Kid
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the 
&lt;br&gt;spirit&amp;quot;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26190196</id>
	<title>Print</title>
	<published>2009-11-03T18:39:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-03T18:39:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>kyle martens</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;I picked up our print yesterday and I just wanted to pass on a tip to others who might be interested.
&lt;br&gt;We picked out our favorite shot we wanted to hang on the wall from our trip to Maui (a close-up of the bark of a eucalyptus tree) and had it &amp;quot;done up&amp;quot;. We had it printed at Lab Works on metallic paper at 26 x 32 inches. Then they mounted it on a thin hard board with flush edges and a stand-off back. Then they coated it with a thick layer of clear acrylic. The final result is PHENOMENAL!!! It is a true WOW piece. The bark in the image is almost 3D and the light in the room glints off the lighter areas like a reflective road sign when you car lights hit it from a distance in the dark.
&lt;br&gt;Yes, it cost a penny or two, but it was DEFINITELY worth every bit and more. I highly recommend looking into it.
&lt;br&gt;Kyle
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; </content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26129851</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-30T06:13:01Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-30T06:13:01Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>William Robb-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message ----- 
&lt;br&gt;From: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26129851&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KironKid@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Which Nissan model?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2004 Titan.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;William Robb
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I did that a few years ago, I wouldn't bother with the sensors again. With
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; my Nissan,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26128139</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-30T03:58:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-30T03:58:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>KironKid</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Which Nissan model?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;In a message dated 10/29/2009 4:36:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26128139&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;warobb@...&lt;/a&gt; writes:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I did that a few years ago, I wouldn't bother with the sensors again. With 
&lt;br&gt;my Nissan, 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Kiron Kid
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the 
&lt;br&gt;spirit&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26122667</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-29T16:35:58Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-29T16:35:58Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>William Robb-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message ----- 
&lt;br&gt;From: &amp;quot;kyle martens&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Darn it. Saved up for that new 100mm Canon IS Macro. Now I need winter tires 
&lt;br&gt;and a full set with rims and sensors is over $2,000 for my vehicle. So do I 
&lt;br&gt;take a really good picture of my smashed vehicle with all seasons, or do I 
&lt;br&gt;not take a picture of a not smashed up vehicle. hummm.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I did that a few years ago, I wouldn't bother with the sensors again. With 
&lt;br&gt;my Nissan, the resolution of the sensors is so fine that it's almost 
&lt;br&gt;impossible to keep them from tripping and keeping an idiot light on all the 
&lt;br&gt;time when it's cold out.
&lt;br&gt;Either that or I have to keep the tires inflated several pounds above 
&lt;br&gt;maximum pressure all the time, which has a somewhat disturbing effect on 
&lt;br&gt;handling.
&lt;br&gt;I think I could have knocked 600 bucks off my rims and snow tires by 
&lt;br&gt;foregoing the sensors.
&lt;br&gt;If your car is similarly priced, thats a good down payment on that lens.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;William Robb 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26121120</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-29T14:26:20Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-29T14:26:20Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>KironKid</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;You have to have priorities in life. By all means, go for the lens! 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;In a message dated 10/29/2009 1:00:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26121120&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gvincent@...&lt;/a&gt; writes:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a proud and happy owner of a Pentax D FA 100 Macro f2.8, I say damn the 
&lt;br&gt;car, go for the lens :-) :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Kiron Kid
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the 
&lt;br&gt;spirit&amp;quot;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26120012</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-29T13:18:55Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-29T13:18:55Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Allen Lefebvre</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Driving is over-rated, go for the lens! 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I played with one at Don's yesterday and its pretty sweet. If only I had a spare $1200. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Driving less and taking more pictures has to be worth carbon credits, don't you think?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Allen
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;Allen Lefebvre
&lt;br&gt;(Sent from my BlackBerry)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;From: kyle martens &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26120012&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kyle_martens@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:24:38 
&lt;br&gt;To: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26120012&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PrairiePhoto@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Darn it. Saved up for that new 100mm Canon IS Macro. Now I need winter tires and a full set with rims and sensors is over $2,000 for my vehicle. So do I take a really good picture of my smashed vehicle with all seasons, or do I not take a picture of a not smashed up vehicle. hummm. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--- On Thu, 10/22/09, Greg &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26120012&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gvincent@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From: Greg &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26120012&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gvincent@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26120012&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PrairiePhoto@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 11:52 AM
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi KK,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think things are pretty much under control up here. No snow to speak of, but it isn't getting any warmer, in fact we're constantly below normal. Actually, it looks like we've assigned the designated shooters roles to Kyle and Brian. Kyle was last seen trying to shoot the breeze (or is it the wind???) with his cell phone remote thingy, and Brian's been set loose to shoot old things, you know, old houses, old barns and a few old stars.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Haven't heard much from the plains of Oregon lately, amything new down there? Any new images to share?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--- In PrairiePhoto@ yahoogroups. com, KironKid@... wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm assuming that my Canadian, Prairie brethren are snowed in, and unable 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to access the Internet. Because I haven't heard a peep in quite some time...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26119737</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-29T12:59:32Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-29T12:59:32Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Vincent</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">As a proud and happy owner of a Pentax D FA 100 Macro f2.8, I say damn the car, go for the lens :-) :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: kyle martens &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26119737&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kyle_martens@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Darn it. Saved up for that new 100mm Canon IS Macro. Now I need winter tires and a full set with rims and sensors is over $2,000 for my vehicle. So do I take a really good picture of my smashed vehicle with all seasons, or do I not take a picture of a not smashed up vehicle. hummm. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26119211</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-29T12:24:38Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-29T12:24:38Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>kyle martens</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Darn it. Saved up for that new 100mm Canon IS Macro. Now I need winter tires and a full set with rims and sensors is over $2,000 for my vehicle. So do I take a really good picture of my smashed vehicle with all seasons, or do I not take a picture of a not smashed up vehicle. hummm. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--- On Thu, 10/22/09, Greg &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26119211&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gvincent@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From: Greg &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26119211&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gvincent@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26119211&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PrairiePhoto@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 11:52 AM
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi KK,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think things are pretty much under control up here. No snow to speak of, but it isn't getting any warmer, in fact we're constantly below normal. Actually, it looks like we've assigned the designated shooters roles to Kyle and Brian. Kyle was last seen trying to shoot the breeze (or is it the wind???) with his cell phone remote thingy, and Brian's been set loose to shoot old things, you know, old houses, old barns and a few old stars.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Haven't heard much from the plains of Oregon lately, amything new down there? Any new images to share?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--- In PrairiePhoto@ yahoogroups. com, KironKid@... wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm assuming that my Canadian, Prairie brethren are snowed in, and unable 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to access the Internet. Because I haven't heard a peep in quite some time...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; </content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26019328</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-22T17:42:11Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-22T17:42:11Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Vincent</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Manual exposure I can make exposures up to 30 seconds, so no remote release is required. &amp;nbsp;It's for the longer exposures that the locking remote or that electronic timer come in handy, and the intervalometer won't likely get distracted like me during a one or two hour session :-) :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I like the idea of combining the images so the background light is kept at bay and if 30-second exposures work well, then that might be my starting point. &amp;nbsp;Never done it, but I've heard of photographers making hours long exposures to get some amazing star trails shots.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thyanks,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Brian Schnieder &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26019328&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brian@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Actually with a locking release you can use a series of 30 sec exposures. Works pretty good. 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26019284</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-22T17:37:10Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-22T17:37:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>KironKid</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Glad to hear you're all alive. Keep shooting. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Kiron Kid
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the 
&lt;br&gt;spirit&amp;quot;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26019194</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-22T17:25:12Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-22T17:25:12Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Brian Schnieder</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;From: Greg Vincent &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26019194&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gvincent@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:12 pm
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Brian,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks for the detailed info, and the links.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Weather??? &amp;nbsp;That big cloud bank that's sitting over you right now 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; is just outside of Oak Lake and getting closer rapidly - will cover 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; us for the next two or three days, then we move to a partly cloudy 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; situation for a few more days. &amp;nbsp;Oh I miss the days when I was at 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Moose Jaw and enjoyed more hours of sunshine than anywhere else in 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Canada, if not North America :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I knew the 12-24 would be good for landscapes, and I guess that 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; includes nightime landscapes too, but that wasn't my prime 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; consideration when I bought it.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; My K10D allows the NR reduction function to be turned off, but not 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; so with the K20D, so I guess the K10D would be the way to go for 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; keeping the star trails together. &amp;nbsp;I was buying quality primes at 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the time and that zoom lens was so well regarded that I broke down 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and begged forgiveness from my wife - after I bought it because I 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; knew the truth behind the old addage about permission and 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; forgiveness :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; That timer device looks pretty good. &amp;nbsp;If I plan to do very much of 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; this type of photography, that would be the way to go. &amp;nbsp;I have a 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; wired remote release that locks, so with a good battery and an 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; illuminated watch, I should be able to get consistent images :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; And thanks for the links. &amp;nbsp;Should keep me busy for a while.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Greg
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;/div&gt;Actually with a locking release you can use a series of 30 sec exposures. Works pretty good.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26019147</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-22T17:12:38Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-22T17:12:38Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Vincent</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Brian,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the detailed info, and the links.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Weather??? &amp;nbsp;That big cloud bank that's sitting over you right now is just outside of Oak Lake and getting closer rapidly - will cover us for the next two or three days, then we move to a partly cloudy situation for a few more days. &amp;nbsp;Oh I miss the days when I was at Moose Jaw and enjoyed more hours of sunshine than anywhere else in Canada, if not North America :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I knew the 12-24 would be good for landscapes, and I guess that includes nightime landscapes too, but that wasn't my prime consideration when I bought it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My K10D allows the NR reduction function to be turned off, but not so with the K20D, so I guess the K10D would be the way to go for keeping the star trails together. &amp;nbsp;I was buying quality primes at the time and that zoom lens was so well regarded that I broke down and begged forgiveness from my wife - after I bought it because I knew the truth behind the old addage about permission and forgiveness :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That timer device looks pretty good. &amp;nbsp;If I plan to do very much of this type of photography, that would be the way to go. &amp;nbsp;I have a wired remote release that locks, so with a good battery and an illuminated watch, I should be able to get consistent images :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And thanks for the links. &amp;nbsp;Should keep me busy for a while.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Brian Schnieder &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26019147&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brian@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; That 12-24 would be perfect for night shots. I your weather is like oures you might be waiting a while for a clear night.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Last night was a little cold, (around 0c) so I limeted my shot to about 34 min. I would like to have gone about 2 hours but I started shivering so I cut it short. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The advantage of stacking is that when close to a city the light pollution doesnt pile up on you like 1 long exposure does &amp; your skys stay relitivly black. And unlike 1 exposure if the battery dies you wont lose anything but the last exposure.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; BTW I turn off the long exposure NR. That would leave too big a gap in the trails. I use a timer remote to get the 2 minute I dont know if Pentax has one but you can get one here
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://cgi.ebay.ca/Timer-Remote-Cord-for-Pentax-K20D-K10D-K200D-K100D-ist_W0QQitemZ330346787168QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Camcorder_Remotes?hash=item4cea33f160&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cgi.ebay.ca/Timer-Remote-Cord-for-Pentax-K20D-K10D-K200D-K100D-ist_W0QQitemZ330346787168QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Camcorder_Remotes?hash=item4cea33f160&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here is a link to startrails
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.startrails.de/html/software.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.startrails.de/html/software.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and PBASE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbase.com/klatuu/root&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pbase.com/klatuu/root&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26017823</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-22T14:50:04Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-22T14:50:04Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Brian Schnieder</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;From: Greg Vincent &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26017823&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gvincent@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:26 pm
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; That's another keeper Brian :-) &amp;nbsp;Glad to see you're taking credit 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; where credit is due, can't let those Canon engineers get ahead of 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; us :-) :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 17 exposures. &amp;nbsp;Interesting.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; You know, I picked up the Pentax 12-24 a few months ago and I can't 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; recall using it yet. &amp;nbsp;Shamefull I know, but it looks like you're an 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; inspiration, or a driving force to get my butt out there after dark 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and make images instead of snacks before bedtime :-) &amp;nbsp;Now waiting 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for a cloudless night or two and I'll download that startrails 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; software too.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Do you let your camera run the extra two-minute noise reduction 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; routine after every two-minute exposure? &amp;nbsp;Not sure if your D7 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; operates that way, but my Pentax equipment gives me the option of 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; run or no run.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; You keep giving us just a small sampling of your images so I'll 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; have to go searching for your Pbase location - wish me luck :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Greg
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;/div&gt;That 12-24 would be perfect for night shots. I your weather is like oures you might be waiting a while for a clear night.
&lt;br&gt;Last night was a little cold, (around 0c) so I limeted my shot to about 34 min. I would like to have gone about 2 hours but I started shivering so I cut it short. 
&lt;br&gt;The advantage of stacking is that when close to a city the light pollution doesnt pile up on you like 1 long exposure does &amp; your skys stay relitivly black. And unlike 1 exposure if the battery dies you wont lose anything but the last exposure.
&lt;br&gt;BTW I turn off the long exposure NR. That would leave too big a gap in the trails. I use a timer remote to get the 2 minute I dont know if Pentax has one but you can get one here
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://cgi.ebay.ca/Timer-Remote-Cord-for-Pentax-K20D-K10D-K200D-K100D-ist_W0QQitemZ330346787168QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Camcorder_Remotes?hash=item4cea33f160&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cgi.ebay.ca/Timer-Remote-Cord-for-Pentax-K20D-K10D-K200D-K100D-ist_W0QQitemZ330346787168QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Camcorder_Remotes?hash=item4cea33f160&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is a link to startrails
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.startrails.de/html/software.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.startrails.de/html/software.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;and PBASE
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbase.com/klatuu/root&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pbase.com/klatuu/root&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26017515</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-22T14:26:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-22T14:26:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Vincent</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">That's another keeper Brian :-) &amp;nbsp;Glad to see you're taking credit where credit is due, can't let those Canon engineers get ahead of us :-) :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;17 exposures. &amp;nbsp;Interesting.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You know, I picked up the Pentax 12-24 a few months ago and I can't recall using it yet. &amp;nbsp;Shamefull I know, but it looks like you're an inspiration, or a driving force to get my butt out there after dark and make images instead of snacks before bedtime :-) &amp;nbsp;Now waiting for a cloudless night or two and I'll download that startrails software too.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you let your camera run the extra two-minute noise reduction routine after every two-minute exposure? &amp;nbsp;Not sure if your D7 operates that way, but my Pentax equipment gives me the option of run or no run.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You keep giving us just a small sampling of your images so I'll have to go searching for your Pbase location - wish me luck :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Brian Schnieder &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26017515&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brian@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Greg, It' all due to me. Well actually the 7D has about a stop better noise performance than the 50D and doesnt have the ugly banding of the 50. This is better than 3200 on my earlier cameras.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The light comes from the town of Stony Beach on the south side of the tracks.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here is another I just posted on PBASE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ISO 200, 17, 2min @ f4 exposures blended in &amp;quot;Startrails.de&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://i.pbase.com/o2/34/842234/1/118583736.6D6oG2dc.7D_0767.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i.pbase.com/o2/34/842234/1/118583736.6D6oG2dc.7D_0767.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26016327</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-22T13:05:25Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-22T13:05:25Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Brian Schnieder</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;From: Greg Vincent &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26016327&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gvincent@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:31 pm
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Brian,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Great image.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So, are you going to tell us how much of the success of this image 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; is due to you, and how much is due to the new D7? &amp;nbsp;:-) :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; And, what is the source of the light on the front of the elevator?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Greg
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;/div&gt;Hi Greg, It' all due to me. Well actually the 7D has about a stop better noise performance than the 50D and doesnt have the ugly banding of the 50. This is better than 3200 on my earlier cameras.
&lt;br&gt;The light comes from the town of Stony Beach on the south side of the tracks.
&lt;br&gt;Here is another I just posted on PBASE
&lt;br&gt;ISO 200, 17, 2min @ f4 exposures blended in &amp;quot;Startrails.de&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://i.pbase.com/o2/34/842234/1/118583736.6D6oG2dc.7D_0767.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i.pbase.com/o2/34/842234/1/118583736.6D6oG2dc.7D_0767.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26015848</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-22T12:31:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-22T12:31:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Vincent</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Brian,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great image.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, are you going to tell us how much of the success of this image is due to you, and how much is due to the new D7? &amp;nbsp;:-) :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, what is the source of the light on the front of the elevator?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Brian Schnieder &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26015848&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brian@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I've been pretty busy breaking in my new Canon 7D
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here's a picture I took last night at ISO 6400
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://i.pbase.com/o2/34/842234/1/118581603.OQQTGgiV.7D_0794.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i.pbase.com/o2/34/842234/1/118581603.OQQTGgiV.7D_0794.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26015490</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-22T12:06:02Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-22T12:06:02Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Brian Schnieder</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;From: Greg &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26015490&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gvincent@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:52 am
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [PrairiePhoto] Re: Need help up there?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi KK,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I think things are pretty much under control up here. &amp;nbsp;No snow to 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; speak of, but it isn't getting any warmer, in fact we're constantly 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; below normal. &amp;nbsp;Actually, it looks like we've assigned the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; designated shooters roles to Kyle and Brian. &amp;nbsp;Kyle was last seen 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; trying to shoot the breeze (or is it the wind???) with his cell 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; phone remote thingy, and Brian's been set loose to shoot old 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; things, you know, old houses, old barns and a few old stars.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Haven't heard much from the plains of Oregon lately, amything new 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; down there? &amp;nbsp;Any new images to share?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Greg
&lt;/div&gt;I've been pretty busy breaking in my new Canon 7D
&lt;br&gt;Here's a picture I took last night at ISO 6400
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://i.pbase.com/o2/34/842234/1/118581603.OQQTGgiV.7D_0794.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i.pbase.com/o2/34/842234/1/118581603.OQQTGgiV.7D_0794.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26015317</id>
	<title>Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-22T11:52:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-22T11:52:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Vincent</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi KK,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think things are pretty much under control up here. &amp;nbsp;No snow to speak of, but it isn't getting any warmer, in fact we're constantly below normal. &amp;nbsp;Actually, it looks like we've assigned the designated shooters roles to Kyle and Brian. &amp;nbsp;Kyle was last seen trying to shoot the breeze (or is it the wind???) with his cell phone remote thingy, and Brian's been set loose to shoot old things, you know, old houses, old barns and a few old stars.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Haven't heard much from the plains of Oregon lately, amything new down there? &amp;nbsp;Any new images to share?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--- In &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26015317&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PrairiePhoto@...&lt;/a&gt;, KironKid@... wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm assuming that my Canadian, Prairie brethren are snowed in, and unable 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to access the Internet. Because I haven't heard a peep in quite some time...
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26003795</id>
	<title>Re: Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-21T21:11:56Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-21T21:11:56Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Brian Schnieder</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Nope, I was out doing star trails tonight. We'v had snow but its gone &amp; won't be back till christmas. The melt by new years.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;From: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26003795&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KironKid@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:30 pm
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [PrairiePhoto] Need help up there?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm assuming that my Canadian, Prairie brethren are snowed in, and 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; unable 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to access the Internet. Because I haven't heard a peep in quite 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; some time...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Kiron Kid
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; reflects the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; spirit&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26003170</id>
	<title>Need help up there?</title>
	<published>2009-10-21T19:30:17Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-21T19:30:17Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>KironKid</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;I'm assuming that my Canadian, Prairie brethren are snowed in, and unable 
&lt;br&gt;to access the Internet. Because I haven't heard a peep in quite some time...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Kiron Kid
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the 
&lt;br&gt;spirit&amp;quot;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25875977</id>
	<title>Re: I-remote shooting</title>
	<published>2009-10-13T09:08:02Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-13T09:08:02Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Vincent</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Kyle,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That looks like amazing technology, however it could have limited application here in south-west Manitoba. &amp;nbsp;Cell phone reception is poor, at best, in many areas around here. Very good reception in Oak Lake and Brandon, but the town of Hartney is one bar, Spruce Woods Provincial Park is zero bars, and our seasonal campground 7 miles west of Oak Lake and 1/2 mile off the Trans Canada highway is sometimes one bar and sometimes zero bars. &amp;nbsp;And, I shoot Pentax, so I guess cell phone reception doesn't matter for me :-) :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do carry a cell phone with me in the country, but many times I would need a walkie talkie to communicate with my wife because often we can see each other but can't communicate on the phone. &amp;nbsp;Mind you, any reply I might make is usually &amp;quot;yes dear&amp;quot; :-) :-) and who needs expensive equipment to do that :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: kyle martens &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25875977&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kyle_martens@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; For those who have an I-phone or I-pod touch and like toys...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ononesoftware.com/detail.php?prodLine_id=38&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ononesoftware.com/detail.php?prodLine_id=38&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I can see this being useful for dawn and dusk tripod shooting in the winter. 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25872419</id>
	<title>I-remote shooting</title>
	<published>2009-10-13T05:58:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-13T05:58:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>kyle martens</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">For those who have an I-phone or I-pod touch and like toys...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ononesoftware.com/detail.php?prodLine_id=38&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ononesoftware.com/detail.php?prodLine_id=38&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can see this being useful for dawn and dusk tripod shooting in the winter. 
&lt;br&gt;Kyle
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25564793</id>
	<title>four point buck</title>
	<published>2009-09-22T11:09:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-09-22T11:09:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bill Armstrong</name>
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	<content type="html">great shot, Kyle.
&lt;br&gt;Bill
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25560521</id>
	<title>Oh Deer!</title>
	<published>2009-09-22T06:56:09Z</published>
	<updated>2009-09-22T06:56:09Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>kyle martens</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Got myself a really nice 4 point buck this weekend...
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PrairiePhoto/photos/album/115602293/pic/list&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PrairiePhoto/photos/album/115602293/pic/list&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;Kyle
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25407437</id>
	<title>Re: Awful quiet around here...</title>
	<published>2009-09-11T12:55:56Z</published>
	<updated>2009-09-11T12:55:56Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>KironKid</name>
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	<content type="html">&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;In a message dated 9/11/09 11:09:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25407437&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kyle_martens@...&lt;/a&gt; writes:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are they &amp;nbsp;trying to corner the market or is there something seriously wrong 
&lt;br&gt;with &amp;nbsp;it?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;It's a Canon. :-0
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;KK
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25405874</id>
	<title>Re: Awful quiet around here...</title>
	<published>2009-09-11T11:08:41Z</published>
	<updated>2009-09-11T11:08:41Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>kyle martens</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">What the heck! Is this right? Canon EOS 7D for $1699.00? 
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adorama.com/ICA7D.html?searchinfo=Canon+7D&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.adorama.com/ICA7D.html?searchinfo=Canon+7D&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;Even if that is US$ that is $1830.00 CDN. Are they trying to corner the market or is there something seriously wrong with it?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Brian Schnieder &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25405874&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brian@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From: Brian Schnieder &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25405874&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brian@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Awful quiet around here...
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=25405874&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PrairiePhoto@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 4:46 PM
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I ordered a 7D today, its actually $2099.
&lt;br&gt;, a little more than I wanted to spend but what the hell its only money eh?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;From: kyle martens &amp;lt;kyle_martens@ yahoo.com&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 4:24 pm
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Awful quiet around here...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Just checked out the new Canon 100mm Macro.  $1150.00 CDN doesn't seem
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; too bad for a f2.8 &amp;quot;L&amp;quot; lens with USM. And $1999.00 for the 7D seems 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; likeCanon is trying to make up for the disappointing 50D (compared 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to the 40D).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; www.dpreview. com already has the review.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Interesting to see the price of the old 100mm Macro dropping already.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Kyle 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;  
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Brian Schnieder &amp;lt;brian@sasktel. net&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Brian Schnieder &amp;lt;brian@sasktel. net&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Awful quiet around here...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; To: PrairiePhoto@ yahoogroups. com
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 9:14 AM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;   
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks Kyle, I heard that macro will be MUCH more expensive so its 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; out for me. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If the rupoured price of the 7D (1999 cnd) is correct I will pre-
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; order one right away.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I guess we'll know tomorrow. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: kyle martens &amp;lt;kyle_martens@ yahoo.com&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Date: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:40 am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Awful quiet around here...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; That is a really nice collection of ghost towns. I hope you are 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; planning to put them together into a book.  I have to say though 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; that it is sad to see the number of ghost towns. I also like 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; checking out abandoned home steads. Often the owners tear down 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; houses intentionally for safety reasons and the farmers who then 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; lease the farm land use the home stead to store farm machinery. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Got 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; to be a bit sneaky on site.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;  
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Good news / bad news. Good news is Canon reworked their 100 Macro 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; into a 100 &amp;quot;L&amp;quot; macro with IS. Assuming they keep the same optics, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; this should be one of their best lenses ever. However it 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; looks like 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; the new Canon 7D, inspite of all the great features and resonable 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; price, will not have an articulated screen. Darn it! 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Kyle 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Brian Schnieder &amp;lt;brian@sasktel. net&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; From: Brian Schnieder &amp;lt;brian@sasktel. net&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Subject: Re: [PrairiePhoto] Awful quiet around here...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; To: PrairiePhoto@ yahoogroups. com
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 9:42 PM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;   
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I've been on the road shooting Saskatchewan ghost towns
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbase&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pbase&lt;/a&gt;. com/klatuu/ root
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; ----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; From: KironKid@aol. com
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:34 pm
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Subject: [PrairiePhoto] Awful quiet around here...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Do I assume that everyone is out burning film and pixels?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Kiron Kid
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;quot;A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; reflects the 
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