Pre-release announcement: YUI 2.4.0, expected in the first half of December

[Eric Miraglia]

The YUI team is hard at work on the next YUI release, and we want to  
share with you some of the more significant updates that are coming  
when we ship version 2.4.0 (scheduled for the first half of  
December).  This is not an exhaustive summary — just the major changes  
in which we have high confidence at this point.  Bug fixes and minor  
features have been applied throughout the library; a more complete  
release manifest will be made available on the day of the release.  
Any bugs you've filed in SourceForge have been updated with a target/
milestone of 2.4.0 if we're targeting its fix for this release.

If you have specific questions about the release, please reply here.

Regards,
Eric


Release Pre-announcement: YUI 2.4.0
Timeframe: first half of December
*Note: All information issued prior to a release is indicative of our  
current plans and expectations.  While we try hard to deliver on  
stated objectives, any dates or release content projected in a pre-
release message may be subject to change.

Important News about the YUI DataTable Control:
        We've made an important decision to carry forward the 2.3.1 version  
of DataTable in the 2.4.0 release without change.  The work we've done  
since 2.3.1, which includes things like fixed header rows, showing and  
hiding columns, drag-and-drop column sizing, is coming along well but  
is not yet stable and consistent enough for your use.  Given the  
choice between holding back 2.4.0 or holding DataTable out of this  
release, the latter was the better choice.
        I know that many of you are working hard on your DataTable  
implementations today and that this delay is not good news.  I want to  
reassure you that it's not a decision we took lightly, but rather a  
step we needed to take in order to help move this component more  
quickly toward GA status and stability with the required feature set.  
We're fully committed to DataTable and we're excited about the  
progress we're making on it. Over the next few months we'll be  
dedicating even more resources to DataTable, and you can expect to see  
the features mentioned above (and more) in a 2.5.0 release early next  
year.
       

New YUI Components or Features:

1.  YUI Charts Control
        The YUI Charts component will allow you to bring data into the page  
via the YUI DataSource Utility and display that information in the  
form of bar charts, pie charts, and line graphs.  The data  
visualization is driven by a Flash .swf engine that gets its data from  
JavaScript, meaning you get the visual richness of Flash while  
interacting with the Charts Control purely through JavaScript (just as  
you interact with any other YUI component).  If you want to get deeper  
in to the Flash piece itself, its source will be available as part of  
Yahoo's Astra library of Flash componentry.
        As this is the first "hybrid" Flash/DHTML component in YUI, we will  
be releasing this as an experimental component; we'll look forward to  
hearing your feedback on how well this meets your needs as you begin  
evaluating it upon release.  (Josh Tynjala)

2.  YUI Profiler Utility
        Nicholas Zakas debuts his second YUI component in 2.4.0 with the  
introduction of an early-beta YUI Profiler Utility.  The Profiler,  
which can work in conjunction with YUI Test to create performance  
thresholds for unit testing, is a flexible toolkit for measuring the  
performance of JS code.  The YUI Profiler will debut without a built-
in interface in 2.4.0 (we'll add interface elements in subsequent  
releases) but is suitable in its present form for many profiling and  
testing tasks.  (Nicholas Zakas)

3.  YUI Get Utility
        YUI's most prolific author, Adam Moore, is back in 2.4.0 with another  
crucial component — one we're calling the YUI Get Utility.  Get  
provides robust support for asynchronous, on-demand loading of  
resources like script and CSS files.  The Get Utility can be used for  
proxyless external DataSources in AutoComplete and for loading JSON  
data from trusted web services. (Adam Moore)

4.  JSON Utility
        The newest member of the YUI team is Luke Smith, and he contributes  
to 2.4.0 an adaptation of Douglas Crockford's JSON utilities.  (Luke  
Smith)

5.  Selector Utility
        We've thought a lot about element selection and where that  
functionality fits within the YUI model. The first fruits of that work  
arrive in 2.4.0 as the YUI Selector Utility.  If you've been longing  
to have some of the selection sugar you've seen in JQuery right within  
the YUI kit, you'll definitely want to explore this new component from  
Matt Sweeney (author of Animation, Dom, and TabView).


Notable Changes to Existing Components:

1.  Promoting out of Beta/Experimental Status
        We're  moving conservatively but steadily to promote newer components  
to GA status.  2.4.0 sees Button and History move to GA while  
ImageLoader is promoted to beta from experimental.

2.  Rich Text Editor
        This is a big release for the RTE beta.  Dav Glass has been hard at  
work stabilizing and streamlining RTE, and with 2.4.0 it will be  
available in both SimpleEditor and Editor flavors.  Using the lighter  
version of the Toolbar, RTE's total minified K-weight is down to  
~130KB (including all dependencies), while performance and stability  
continue to improve.

3.  Drag and Drop Utility
        Drag and Drop introduces the concept of items that are draggable but  
not droppable -- a big performance boost for elements like floating  
panels that can be moved around but aren't meant to interact in the  
drag-and-drop sense with the items below them.

4.  AutoComplete Control
        As mentioned above, AutoComplete gains the ability (via the new YUI  
Get Utility) to perform proxyless web services requests.

5.  YUI Test Utility
        The YUI Test Utility gains support for asynchronous testing, allowing  
you to perform a test action and then wait a specified amount of time  
before continuing the test.


=========


YUI 2.4.0 is on track for a release in the first half of December.  
Stay tuned to YDN-JavaScript and YUIBlog for more information about  
the release when it becomes available.

Regards,
Eric

[Louis Arquie-2]

Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I was not expecting so much so quickly.
What a nice present for Christm... err end-of-year celebrations.

-----

I am very surprised by the Charts Component.
I would not expect to have to marry JavaScript and Flash. Is that a
step in the right direction?

The big thing missing on the web, for me, is vector graphics: being
able to draw a line from any point on the screen to any other point.
After Yahoo Pipes, I was expecting that Canvas was the way to go. Why
not go that way?


Thanks,
Louis

[Caridy Patino]

Oh, you guys have been working very hard in this coming release.

I'm very exciting about the "YUI Charts Control" and much more about
the "YUI Get Utility", I'm hoping this new Adam Moore's utility
already include some of the features of the dispatcher plugin but now
without using a server side proxy.

In other hand, I think that the "Selector Utility" will bring much
more attention for those who are still hesitant about this YUI
library, and this utility will allow us to easily migrate some
wonderful pieces of code from jQuery to YUI.

So, keep pushing the web... ;-)

Best Regards,
Caridy (caridy at gmail.com)
http://www.bubbling-library.com/

--- In ydn-javascript@..., Eric Miraglia <miraglia@...> wrote:

>
> The YUI team is hard at work on the next YUI release, and we want to  
> share with you some of the more significant updates that are coming  
> when we ship version 2.4.0 (scheduled for the first half of  
> December).  This is not an exhaustive summary — just the major changes  
> in which we have high confidence at this point.  Bug fixes and minor  
> features have been applied throughout the library; a more complete  
> release manifest will be made available on the day of the release.  
> Any bugs you've filed in SourceForge have been updated with a target/
> milestone of 2.4.0 if we're targeting its fix for this release.
>
> If you have specific questions about the release, please reply here.
>
> Regards,
> Eric
>
>
> Release Pre-announcement: YUI 2.4.0
> Timeframe: first half of December
> *Note: All information issued prior to a release is indicative of our  
> current plans and expectations.  While we try hard to deliver on  
> stated objectives, any dates or release content projected in a pre-
> release message may be subject to change.
>
> Important News about the YUI DataTable Control:
> We've made an important decision to carry forward the 2.3.1 version  
> of DataTable in the 2.4.0 release without change.  The work we've done  
> since 2.3.1, which includes things like fixed header rows, showing and  
> hiding columns, drag-and-drop column sizing, is coming along well but  
> is not yet stable and consistent enough for your use.  Given the  
> choice between holding back 2.4.0 or holding DataTable out of this  
> release, the latter was the better choice.
> I know that many of you are working hard on your DataTable  
> implementations today and that this delay is not good news.  I want to  
> reassure you that it's not a decision we took lightly, but rather a  
> step we needed to take in order to help move this component more  
> quickly toward GA status and stability with the required feature set.  
> We're fully committed to DataTable and we're excited about the  
> progress we're making on it. Over the next few months we'll be  
> dedicating even more resources to DataTable, and you can expect to see  
> the features mentioned above (and more) in a 2.5.0 release early next  
> year.
>
>
> New YUI Components or Features:
>
> 1.  YUI Charts Control
> The YUI Charts component will allow you to bring data into the page  
> via the YUI DataSource Utility and display that information in the  
> form of bar charts, pie charts, and line graphs.  The data  
> visualization is driven by a Flash .swf engine that gets its data from  
> JavaScript, meaning you get the visual richness of Flash while  
> interacting with the Charts Control purely through JavaScript (just as  
> you interact with any other YUI component).  If you want to get deeper  
> in to the Flash piece itself, its source will be available as part of  
> Yahoo's Astra library of Flash componentry.
> As this is the first "hybrid" Flash/DHTML component in YUI, we will  
> be releasing this as an experimental component; we'll look forward to  
> hearing your feedback on how well this meets your needs as you begin  
> evaluating it upon release.  (Josh Tynjala)
>
> 2.  YUI Profiler Utility
> Nicholas Zakas debuts his second YUI component in 2.4.0 with the  
> introduction of an early-beta YUI Profiler Utility.  The Profiler,  
> which can work in conjunction with YUI Test to create performance  
> thresholds for unit testing, is a flexible toolkit for measuring the  
> performance of JS code.  The YUI Profiler will debut without a built-
> in interface in 2.4.0 (we'll add interface elements in subsequent  
> releases) but is suitable in its present form for many profiling and  
> testing tasks.  (Nicholas Zakas)
>
> 3.  YUI Get Utility
> YUI's most prolific author, Adam Moore, is back in 2.4.0 with another  
> crucial component — one we're calling the YUI Get Utility.  Get  
> provides robust support for asynchronous, on-demand loading of  
> resources like script and CSS files.  The Get Utility can be used for  
> proxyless external DataSources in AutoComplete and for loading JSON  
> data from trusted web services. (Adam Moore)
>
> 4.  JSON Utility
> The newest member of the YUI team is Luke Smith, and he contributes  
> to 2.4.0 an adaptation of Douglas Crockford's JSON utilities.  (Luke  
> Smith)
>
> 5.  Selector Utility
> We've thought a lot about element selection and where that  
> functionality fits within the YUI model. The first fruits of that work  
> arrive in 2.4.0 as the YUI Selector Utility.  If you've been longing  
> to have some of the selection sugar you've seen in JQuery right within  
> the YUI kit, you'll definitely want to explore this new component from  
> Matt Sweeney (author of Animation, Dom, and TabView).
>
>
> Notable Changes to Existing Components:
>
> 1.  Promoting out of Beta/Experimental Status
> We're  moving conservatively but steadily to promote newer components  
> to GA status.  2.4.0 sees Button and History move to GA while  
> ImageLoader is promoted to beta from experimental.
>
> 2.  Rich Text Editor
> This is a big release for the RTE beta.  Dav Glass has been hard at  
> work stabilizing and streamlining RTE, and with 2.4.0 it will be  
> available in both SimpleEditor and Editor flavors.  Using the lighter  
> version of the Toolbar, RTE's total minified K-weight is down to  
> ~130KB (including all dependencies), while performance and stability  
> continue to improve.
>
> 3.  Drag and Drop Utility
> Drag and Drop introduces the concept of items that are draggable but  
> not droppable -- a big performance boost for elements like floating  
> panels that can be moved around but aren't meant to interact in the  
> drag-and-drop sense with the items below them.
>
> 4.  AutoComplete Control
> As mentioned above, AutoComplete gains the ability (via the new YUI  
> Get Utility) to perform proxyless web services requests.
>
> 5.  YUI Test Utility
> The YUI Test Utility gains support for asynchronous testing, allowing  
> you to perform a test action and then wait a specified amount of time  
> before continuing the test.
>
>
> =========
>
>
> YUI 2.4.0 is on track for a release in the first half of December.  
> Stay tuned to YDN-JavaScript and YUIBlog for more information about  
> the release when it becomes available.
>
> Regards,
> Eric
>

[Eric Miraglia]

On Nov 5, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Louis Arquie wrote:

> I am very surprised by the Charts Component.
> I would not expect to have to marry JavaScript and Flash. Is that a
> step in the right direction?

Louis,

Is it a step in the right direction?  Well, we think so.  We're  
looking forward to hearing what you think once you have it in hand.

Thomas Sha, who founded the YUI Project at Yahoo, reminds us regularly  
that YUI is not a "JavaScript and CSS library" or a "DHTML library" —  
it's a library for the presentation layer of internet-delivered apps.  
Fundamentally, we've dealt with DOM-based structures thus far, because  
that's where the biggest ROI is.  Even the emerging tier of this  
segment is DOM-centric or DOM-enabled -- iPhones, gPhones, Air, open/
walled social platforms, etc.  For all of its flaws, the browser-as-
platform is still king.

But for some things, Flash offers a compelling solution.  Charting is  
one of those things.  It's not the only one, but it's an obvious one.  
As the Flash-JavaScript conduits have improved, hybrid controls like  
the upcoming YUI Charts have become more attractive as solutions to  
specific kinds of problems in the UI.

Regards,
Eric



______________________________________________
Eric Miraglia
Yahoo! User Interface Library

[mpbahl]

Eric,

thanks for the update. Your team is doing a great job with a very
ambitious project.

I'm eagerly awaiting the IE fixed headers with row selection fix. Is
there any way I could get the DataTable fix and use it "at my own risk"?

Thanks for all your hard work

Michael

--- In ydn-javascript@..., Eric Miraglia <miraglia@...> wrote:

>
> The YUI team is hard at work on the next YUI release, and we want to  
> share with you some of the more significant updates that are coming  
> when we ship version 2.4.0 (scheduled for the first half of  
> December).  This is not an exhaustive summary — just the major changes  
> in which we have high confidence at this point.  Bug fixes and minor  
> features have been applied throughout the library; a more complete  
> release manifest will be made available on the day of the release.  
> Any bugs you've filed in SourceForge have been updated with a target/
> milestone of 2.4.0 if we're targeting its fix for this release.
>
> If you have specific questions about the release, please reply here.
>
> Regards,
> Eric
>
>
> Release Pre-announcement: YUI 2.4.0
> Timeframe: first half of December
> *Note: All information issued prior to a release is indicative of our  
> current plans and expectations.  While we try hard to deliver on  
> stated objectives, any dates or release content projected in a pre-
> release message may be subject to change.
>
> Important News about the YUI DataTable Control:
> We've made an important decision to carry forward the 2.3.1 version  
> of DataTable in the 2.4.0 release without change.  The work we've done  
> since 2.3.1, which includes things like fixed header rows, showing and  
> hiding columns, drag-and-drop column sizing, is coming along well but  
> is not yet stable and consistent enough for your use.  Given the  
> choice between holding back 2.4.0 or holding DataTable out of this  
> release, the latter was the better choice.
> I know that many of you are working hard on your DataTable  
> implementations today and that this delay is not good news.  I want to  
> reassure you that it's not a decision we took lightly, but rather a  
> step we needed to take in order to help move this component more  
> quickly toward GA status and stability with the required feature set.  
> We're fully committed to DataTable and we're excited about the  
> progress we're making on it. Over the next few months we'll be  
> dedicating even more resources to DataTable, and you can expect to see  
> the features mentioned above (and more) in a 2.5.0 release early next  
> year.
>
>
> New YUI Components or Features:
>
> 1.  YUI Charts Control
> The YUI Charts component will allow you to bring data into the page  
> via the YUI DataSource Utility and display that information in the  
> form of bar charts, pie charts, and line graphs.  The data  
> visualization is driven by a Flash .swf engine that gets its data from  
> JavaScript, meaning you get the visual richness of Flash while  
> interacting with the Charts Control purely through JavaScript (just as  
> you interact with any other YUI component).  If you want to get deeper  
> in to the Flash piece itself, its source will be available as part of  
> Yahoo's Astra library of Flash componentry.
> As this is the first "hybrid" Flash/DHTML component in YUI, we will  
> be releasing this as an experimental component; we'll look forward to  
> hearing your feedback on how well this meets your needs as you begin  
> evaluating it upon release.  (Josh Tynjala)
>
> 2.  YUI Profiler Utility
> Nicholas Zakas debuts his second YUI component in 2.4.0 with the  
> introduction of an early-beta YUI Profiler Utility.  The Profiler,  
> which can work in conjunction with YUI Test to create performance  
> thresholds for unit testing, is a flexible toolkit for measuring the  
> performance of JS code.  The YUI Profiler will debut without a built-
> in interface in 2.4.0 (we'll add interface elements in subsequent  
> releases) but is suitable in its present form for many profiling and  
> testing tasks.  (Nicholas Zakas)
>
> 3.  YUI Get Utility
> YUI's most prolific author, Adam Moore, is back in 2.4.0 with another  
> crucial component — one we're calling the YUI Get Utility.  Get  
> provides robust support for asynchronous, on-demand loading of  
> resources like script and CSS files.  The Get Utility can be used for  
> proxyless external DataSources in AutoComplete and for loading JSON  
> data from trusted web services. (Adam Moore)
>
> 4.  JSON Utility
> The newest member of the YUI team is Luke Smith, and he contributes  
> to 2.4.0 an adaptation of Douglas Crockford's JSON utilities.  (Luke  
> Smith)
>
> 5.  Selector Utility
> We've thought a lot about element selection and where that  
> functionality fits within the YUI model. The first fruits of that work  
> arrive in 2.4.0 as the YUI Selector Utility.  If you've been longing  
> to have some of the selection sugar you've seen in JQuery right within  
> the YUI kit, you'll definitely want to explore this new component from  
> Matt Sweeney (author of Animation, Dom, and TabView).
>
>
> Notable Changes to Existing Components:
>
> 1.  Promoting out of Beta/Experimental Status
> We're  moving conservatively but steadily to promote newer components  
> to GA status.  2.4.0 sees Button and History move to GA while  
> ImageLoader is promoted to beta from experimental.
>
> 2.  Rich Text Editor
> This is a big release for the RTE beta.  Dav Glass has been hard at  
> work stabilizing and streamlining RTE, and with 2.4.0 it will be  
> available in both SimpleEditor and Editor flavors.  Using the lighter  
> version of the Toolbar, RTE's total minified K-weight is down to  
> ~130KB (including all dependencies), while performance and stability  
> continue to improve.
>
> 3.  Drag and Drop Utility
> Drag and Drop introduces the concept of items that are draggable but  
> not droppable -- a big performance boost for elements like floating  
> panels that can be moved around but aren't meant to interact in the  
> drag-and-drop sense with the items below them.
>
> 4.  AutoComplete Control
> As mentioned above, AutoComplete gains the ability (via the new YUI  
> Get Utility) to perform proxyless web services requests.
>
> 5.  YUI Test Utility
> The YUI Test Utility gains support for asynchronous testing, allowing  
> you to perform a test action and then wait a specified amount of time  
> before continuing the test.
>
>
> =========
>
>
> YUI 2.4.0 is on track for a release in the first half of December.  
> Stay tuned to YDN-JavaScript and YUIBlog for more information about  
> the release when it becomes available.
>
> Regards,
> Eric
>

[Eric Miraglia]

Michael,

We'll certainly consider releasing a public "preview" of the DataTable  
changes once they stabilize (we're not there today).  If we do, we'll  
announce it here on YDN-JavaScript and make it available as a  
download.  That could either be standalone (running on the 2.4.0 base)  
or as part of a broader 2.5.0 preview, which we did with 2.3.0.  First  
though, we need to make some more progress on DT -- which Jenny and  
Luke are working hard to do.

Regards,
Eric


______________________________________________
Eric Miraglia
Yahoo! User Interface Library


On Nov 11, 2007, at 5:50 PM, mpbahl wrote:

> Eric,
>
> thanks for the update. Your team is doing a great job with a very
> ambitious project.
>
> I'm eagerly awaiting the IE fixed headers with row selection fix. Is
> there any way I could get the DataTable fix and use it "at my own  
> risk"?
>
> Thanks for all your hard work
>
> Michael
>
> --- In ydn-javascript@..., Eric Miraglia <miraglia@...>  
> wrote:
> >
> > The YUI team is hard at work on the next YUI release, and we want to
> > share with you some of the more significant updates that are coming
> > when we ship version 2.4.0 (scheduled for the first half of
> > December). This is not an exhaustive summary — just the major  
> changes
> > in which we have high confidence at this point. Bug fixes and minor
> > features have been applied throughout the library; a more complete
> > release manifest will be made available on the day of the release.
> > Any bugs you've filed in SourceForge have been updated with a  
> target/
> > milestone of 2.4.0 if we're targeting its fix for this release.
> >
> > If you have specific questions about the release, please reply here.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > Release Pre-announcement: YUI 2.4.0
> > Timeframe: first half of December
> > *Note: All information issued prior to a release is indicative of  
> our
> > current plans and expectations. While we try hard to deliver on
> > stated objectives, any dates or release content projected in a pre-
> > release message may be subject to change.
> >
> > Important News about the YUI DataTable Control:
> > We've made an important decision to carry forward the 2.3.1 version
> > of DataTable in the 2.4.0 release without change. The work we've  
> done
> > since 2.3.1, which includes things like fixed header rows, showing  
> and
> > hiding columns, drag-and-drop column sizing, is coming along well  
> but
> > is not yet stable and consistent enough for your use. Given the
> > choice between holding back 2.4.0 or holding DataTable out of this
> > release, the latter was the better choice.
> > I know that many of you are working hard on your DataTable
> > implementations today and that this delay is not good news. I want  
> to
> > reassure you that it's not a decision we took lightly, but rather a
> > step we needed to take in order to help move this component more
> > quickly toward GA status and stability with the required feature  
> set.
> > We're fully committed to DataTable and we're excited about the
> > progress we're making on it. Over the next few months we'll be
> > dedicating even more resources to DataTable, and you can expect to  
> see
> > the features mentioned above (and more) in a 2.5.0 release early  
> next
> > year.
> >
> >
> > New YUI Components or Features:
> >
> > 1. YUI Charts Control
> > The YUI Charts component will allow you to bring data into the page
> > via the YUI DataSource Utility and display that information in the
> > form of bar charts, pie charts, and line graphs. The data
> > visualization is driven by a Flash .swf engine that gets its data  
> from
> > JavaScript, meaning you get the visual richness of Flash while
> > interacting with the Charts Control purely through JavaScript  
> (just as
> > you interact with any other YUI component). If you want to get  
> deeper
> > in to the Flash piece itself, its source will be available as part  
> of
> > Yahoo's Astra library of Flash componentry.
> > As this is the first "hybrid" Flash/DHTML component in YUI, we will
> > be releasing this as an experimental component; we'll look forward  
> to
> > hearing your feedback on how well this meets your needs as you begin
> > evaluating it upon release. (Josh Tynjala)
> >
> > 2. YUI Profiler Utility
> > Nicholas Zakas debuts his second YUI component in 2.4.0 with the
> > introduction of an early-beta YUI Profiler Utility. The Profiler,
> > which can work in conjunction with YUI Test to create performance
> > thresholds for unit testing, is a flexible toolkit for measuring the
> > performance of JS code. The YUI Profiler will debut without a built-
> > in interface in 2.4.0 (we'll add interface elements in subsequent
> > releases) but is suitable in its present form for many profiling and
> > testing tasks. (Nicholas Zakas)
> >
> > 3. YUI Get Utility
> > YUI's most prolific author, Adam Moore, is back in 2.4.0 with  
> another
> > crucial component — one we're calling the YUI Get Utility. Get
> > provides robust support for asynchronous, on-demand loading of
> > resources like script and CSS files. The Get Utility can be used for
> > proxyless external DataSources in AutoComplete and for loading JSON
> > data from trusted web services. (Adam Moore)
> >
> > 4. JSON Utility
> > The newest member of the YUI team is Luke Smith, and he contributes
> > to 2.4.0 an adaptation of Douglas Crockford's JSON utilities. (Luke
> > Smith)
> >
> > 5. Selector Utility
> > We've thought a lot about element selection and where that
> > functionality fits within the YUI model. The first fruits of that  
> work
> > arrive in 2.4.0 as the YUI Selector Utility. If you've been longing
> > to have some of the selection sugar you've seen in JQuery right  
> within
> > the YUI kit, you'll definitely want to explore this new component  
> from
> > Matt Sweeney (author of Animation, Dom, and TabView).
> >
> >
> > Notable Changes to Existing Components:
> >
> > 1. Promoting out of Beta/Experimental Status
> > We're moving conservatively but steadily to promote newer components
> > to GA status. 2.4.0 sees Button and History move to GA while
> > ImageLoader is promoted to beta from experimental.
> >
> > 2. Rich Text Editor
> > This is a big release for the RTE beta. Dav Glass has been hard at
> > work stabilizing and streamlining RTE, and with 2.4.0 it will be
> > available in both SimpleEditor and Editor flavors. Using the lighter
> > version of the Toolbar, RTE's total minified K-weight is down to
> > ~130KB (including all dependencies), while performance and stability
> > continue to improve.
> >
> > 3. Drag and Drop Utility
> > Drag and Drop introduces the concept of items that are draggable but
> > not droppable -- a big performance boost for elements like floating
> > panels that can be moved around but aren't meant to interact in the
> > drag-and-drop sense with the items below them.
> >
> > 4. AutoComplete Control
> > As mentioned above, AutoComplete gains the ability (via the new YUI
> > Get Utility) to perform proxyless web services requests.
> >
> > 5. YUI Test Utility
> > The YUI Test Utility gains support for asynchronous testing,  
> allowing
> > you to perform a test action and then wait a specified amount of  
> time
> > before continuing the test.
> >
> >
> > =========
> >
> >
> > YUI 2.4.0 is on track for a release in the first half of December.
> > Stay tuned to YDN-JavaScript and YUIBlog for more information about
> > the release when it becomes available.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eric
> >
>
>
>

[ajaxgames]

Hello,

Another potential JS-Flash area would be Sound. Since Javascript does
not support sound and browser support is not complete or consistent,
it can be done similar to the Charts component, ie a Flash based
sound engine that is completely controlled from Javascript. This can
further be combined with other YUI components, such as the slider
(for volume control) to produce rich components.

Such libraries/components already exist and do a good job but one
integrated in YUI would be great. Otherwise, we can build great
interactive AJAX applications but no way add sound for things like
alerts/notifications.


Thanks
-j

--- In ydn-javascript@..., Eric Miraglia <miraglia@...>
wrote:
>
> On Nov 5, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Louis Arquie wrote:
>
> > I am very surprised by the Charts Component.
> > I would not expect to have to marry JavaScript and Flash. Is that
a
> > step in the right direction?
>
> Louis,
>
> Is it a step in the right direction?  Well, we think so.  We're  
> looking forward to hearing what you think once you have it in hand.
>
> Thomas Sha, who founded the YUI Project at Yahoo, reminds us
regularly  
> that YUI is not a "JavaScript and CSS library" or a "DHTML library"
—  
> it's a library for the presentation layer of internet-delivered
apps.  
> Fundamentally, we've dealt with DOM-based structures thus far,
because  
> that's where the biggest ROI is.  Even the emerging tier of this  
> segment is DOM-centric or DOM-enabled -- iPhones, gPhones, Air,
open/
> walled social platforms, etc.  For all of its flaws, the browser-as-
 
> platform is still king.
>
> But for some things, Flash offers a compelling solution.  Charting
is  
> one of those things.  It's not the only one, but it's an obvious
one.  
> As the Flash-JavaScript conduits have improved, hybrid controls
like  
> the upcoming YUI Charts have become more attractive as solutions
to  

> specific kinds of problems in the UI.
>
> Regards,
> Eric
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________
> Eric Miraglia
> Yahoo! User Interface Library
>

[Satyam-3]

Can you post this to SourceForge?

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=165715&atid=836479

That is the place to file these requests, if you don't want them to be
missed.

Satyam

----- Original Message -----
From: "ajaxgames" <ajaxgames@...>
To: <ydn-javascript@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:30 PM
Subject: [ydn-javascript] Re: Pre-release announcement: YUI 2.4.0, expected
in the first half of December

> Hello,
>
> Another potential JS-Flash area would be Sound. Since Javascript does
> not support sound and browser support is not complete or consistent,
> it can be done similar to the Charts component, ie a Flash based
> sound engine that is completely controlled from Javascript. This can
> further be combined with other YUI components, such as the slider
> (for volume control) to produce rich components.
>
> Such libraries/components already exist and do a good job but one
> integrated in YUI would be great. Otherwise, we can build great
> interactive AJAX applications but no way add sound for things like
> alerts/notifications.
>
>
> Thanks
> -j
>
> --- In ydn-javascript@..., Eric Miraglia <miraglia@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Louis Arquie wrote:
>>
>> > I am very surprised by the Charts Component.
>> > I would not expect to have to marry JavaScript and Flash. Is that
> a
>> > step in the right direction?
>>
>> Louis,
>>
>> Is it a step in the right direction?  Well, we think so.  We're
>> looking forward to hearing what you think once you have it in hand.
>>
>> Thomas Sha, who founded the YUI Project at Yahoo, reminds us
> regularly
>> that YUI is not a "JavaScript and CSS library" or a "DHTML library"
> -
>> it's a library for the presentation layer of internet-delivered
> apps.
>> Fundamentally, we've dealt with DOM-based structures thus far,
> because
>> that's where the biggest ROI is.  Even the emerging tier of this
>> segment is DOM-centric or DOM-enabled -- iPhones, gPhones, Air,
> open/
>> walled social platforms, etc.  For all of its flaws, the browser-as-
>
>> platform is still king.
>>
>> But for some things, Flash offers a compelling solution.  Charting
> is
>> one of those things.  It's not the only one, but it's an obvious
> one.
>> As the Flash-JavaScript conduits have improved, hybrid controls
> like
>> the upcoming YUI Charts have become more attractive as solutions
> to
>> specific kinds of problems in the UI.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________
>> Eric Miraglia
>> Yahoo! User Interface Library
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Caridy Patino]

Hello J,

I'm glad you mention it, because I will release the YUI Sound Manager as part of the
Bubbling Library Extension in a couple of days, I'm just tuning the examples and the
documentation. This package will allow you to apply sound effects on click or roll over the
Anchors, Inputs and YUI Buttons, also integrate the sound effects with other YUI
Components like Overlays, TabsView, etc. As an add-on, you will be able to play and stop
any remote Audio File. All this features will be mostly automatic (without need to wrote a
single javascript line), also you can customize your own effects.

See a preview here:
http://www.bubbling-library.com/sandbox/accordion/sound.html
http://www.bubbling-library.com/sandbox/sound/simple.html

Best Regards,
Caridy (caridy at gmail.com)
http://www.bubbling-library.com/

--- In ydn-javascript@..., "ajaxgames" <ajaxgames@...> wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> Another potential JS-Flash area would be Sound. Since Javascript does
> not support sound and browser support is not complete or consistent,
> it can be done similar to the Charts component, ie a Flash based
> sound engine that is completely controlled from Javascript. This can
> further be combined with other YUI components, such as the slider
> (for volume control) to produce rich components.
>
> Such libraries/components already exist and do a good job but one
> integrated in YUI would be great. Otherwise, we can build great
> interactive AJAX applications but no way add sound for things like
> alerts/notifications.
>
>
> Thanks
> -j
>
> --- In ydn-javascript@..., Eric Miraglia <miraglia@>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 5, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Louis Arquie wrote:
> >
> > > I am very surprised by the Charts Component.
> > > I would not expect to have to marry JavaScript and Flash. Is that
> a
> > > step in the right direction?
> >
> > Louis,
> >
> > Is it a step in the right direction?  Well, we think so.  We're  
> > looking forward to hearing what you think once you have it in hand.
> >
> > Thomas Sha, who founded the YUI Project at Yahoo, reminds us
> regularly  
> > that YUI is not a "JavaScript and CSS library" or a "DHTML library"
> —  
> > it's a library for the presentation layer of internet-delivered
> apps.  
> > Fundamentally, we've dealt with DOM-based structures thus far,
> because  
> > that's where the biggest ROI is.  Even the emerging tier of this  
> > segment is DOM-centric or DOM-enabled -- iPhones, gPhones, Air,
> open/
> > walled social platforms, etc.  For all of its flaws, the browser-as-
>  
> > platform is still king.
> >
> > But for some things, Flash offers a compelling solution.  Charting
> is  
> > one of those things.  It's not the only one, but it's an obvious
> one.  
> > As the Flash-JavaScript conduits have improved, hybrid controls
> like  
> > the upcoming YUI Charts have become more attractive as solutions
> to  
> > specific kinds of problems in the UI.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________
> > Eric Miraglia
> > Yahoo! User Interface Library
> >
>