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Problem in defining node set!!!!
by goldman1378
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Hi all. I have some points from experiment and I should create a node set for them. But the problem is finding the exact point in CAE. I mean finding the exact nod between thousands is really hard. Thanks in advance. Sincerely yours Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Problem in defining node set!!!!
by Dave Lindeman
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Create a path using a point list (Tools->Path->Create), with one point
for each of your experimental measurement locations (you can probably cut and paste the list of coordinates from Excel). Map the variable(s) of interest to the path, then print and/or plot it. ABAQUS will take care of the interpolations. Regards, Dave ------------------------- Dave Lindeman Lead Research Specialist 3M Company 3M Center 235-3F-08 St. Paul, MN 55144 651-733-6383 Victor wrote: > > > > > Hi all. > > I have some points from experiment and I should create a node set for them. > > But the problem is finding the exact point in CAE. I mean finding the > exact nod > between thousands is really hard. > > Thanks in advance. > > Sincerely yours > > Victor > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > |
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Re: Problem in defining node set!!!!
by goldman1378
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The problem is finding the exact points in cae. Do you have any idea? Can you describe in more detail. thanks Regrads Victor --- On Thu, 15/10/09, Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@...> wrote: From: Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@...> Subject: Re: [Abaqus] Problem in defining node set!!!! To: Abaqus@... Date: Thursday, 15 October, 2009, 20:56 Create a path using a point list (Tools->Path- >Create), with one point for each of your experimental measurement locations (you can probably cut and paste the list of coordinates from Excel). Map the variable(s) of interest to the path, then print and/or plot it. ABAQUS will take care of the interpolations. Regards, Dave ------------ --------- ---- Dave Lindeman Lead Research Specialist 3M Company 3M Center 235-3F-08 St. Paul, MN 55144 651-733-6383 Victor wrote: > > > > > Hi all. > > I have some points from experiment and I should create a node set for them. > > But the problem is finding the exact point in CAE. I mean finding the > exact nod > between thousands is really hard. > > Thanks in advance. > > Sincerely yours > > Victor > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Problem in defining node set!!!!
by Dave Lindeman
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Look at the documentation for path plots. You can specify the exact
coordinates of the points you're interested in -- ABAQUS will perform the interpolations for you. You don't need to find the nearest nodes. Note that I'm talking about a Viewer operation (Tools->Path- >Create), not a CAE operation. Regards, Dave ------------------------- Dave Lindeman Lead Research Specialist 3M Company 3M Center 235-3F-08 St. Paul, MN 55144 651-733-6383 Victor wrote: > > > Hi > The problem is finding the exact points in cae. Do you have any idea? > Can you describe in more detail. > thanks > Regrads > Victor > > --- On Thu, 15/10/09, Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@... > <mailto:ddlindeman%40mmm.com>> wrote: > > From: Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@... <mailto:ddlindeman%40mmm.com>> > Subject: Re: [Abaqus] Problem in defining node set!!!! > To: Abaqus@... <mailto:Abaqus%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Thursday, 15 October, 2009, 20:56 > > > > Create a path using a point list (Tools->Path- >Create), with one point > > for each of your experimental measurement locations (you can probably > > cut and paste the list of coordinates from Excel). Map the variable(s) > > of interest to the path, then print and/or plot it. ABAQUS will take > > care of the interpolations. > > Regards, > > Dave > > ------------ --------- ---- > > Dave Lindeman > > Lead Research Specialist > > 3M Company > > 3M Center 235-3F-08 > > St. Paul, MN 55144 > > 651-733-6383 > > Victor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > I have some points from experiment and I should create a node set for > them. > > > > > > But the problem is finding the exact point in CAE. I mean finding the > > > exact nod > > > between thousands is really hard. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Sincerely yours > > > > > > Victor > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > |
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Re: Problem in defining node set!!!!
by ziyad
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If you have the coordinates of those points, you can open the inp file then make finding by "ctrl+f" and try to fine the coordinates of each node, then you find out the number of nodes which you can define as a node set manually by *nset, nset=name numbers of nodes hope this help Regards Ziyad
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Re: Problem in defining node set!!!!
by goldman1378
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Hi all,
let me explain more: the points from experiment is not exactly on nodes, so I need interpolation between integration points. The other difficultiy is giving these points as node set or .. in defing a path, because selecting these points from CAE is realy hard and not accurate. Thanks in advance. Regards Victor --- On Sat, 17/10/09, ziyad <ziyad02@...> wrote: From: ziyad <ziyad02@...> Subject: Re: [ABAQUS] Problem in defining node set!!!! To: ABAQUS@... Date: Saturday, 17 October, 2009, 20:51 Hi If you have the coordinates of those points, you can open the inp file then make finding by "ctrl+f" and try to fine the coordinates of each node, then you find out the number of nodes which you can define as a node set manually by *nset, nset=name numbers of nodes hope this help Regards Ziyad goldman1378 wrote: > > > > > > Hi all. > > I have some points from experiment and I should create a node set for > them. > > But the problem is finding the exact point in CAE. I mean finding the > exact nod > between thousands is really hard. > > Thanks in advance. > > Sincerely yours > > Victor > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble. com/Problem- in-defining- node-set% 21%21%21% 21-tp25913815p25 940880.html Sent from the Abaqus Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Problem in defining node set!!!!
by Dave Lindeman
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Again, you do NOT need to define nodes, or a node set, in order to
define the points to be used on a path within ABAQUS/Viewer. You simply define the coordinates of the points you are interested in. ABAQUS/Viewer takes care of the interpolation. Regards, Dave ------------------------- Dave Lindeman Lead Research Specialist 3M Company 3M Center 235-3F-08 St. Paul, MN 55144 651-733-6383 Victor wrote: > > > Hi all, > let me explain more: the points from experiment is not exactly on nodes, > so I need interpolation between integration points. > The other difficultiy is giving these points as node set or .. in defing > a path, because selecting these points from CAE is realy hard and not > accurate. > Thanks in advance. > Regards > Victor > > --- On Sat, 17/10/09, ziyad <ziyad02@... > <mailto:ziyad02%40yahoo.com>> wrote: > > From: ziyad <ziyad02@... <mailto:ziyad02%40yahoo.com>> > Subject: Re: [ABAQUS] Problem in defining node set!!!! > To: ABAQUS@... <mailto:ABAQUS%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Saturday, 17 October, 2009, 20:51 > > > > Hi > > If you have the coordinates of those points, you can open the inp file then > > make finding by "ctrl+f" and try to fine the coordinates of each node, then > > you find out the number of nodes which you can define as a node set manually > > by > > *nset, nset=name > > numbers of nodes > > hope this help > > Regards > > Ziyad > > goldman1378 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > I have some points from experiment and I should create a node set for > > > them. > > > > > > But the problem is finding the exact point in CAE. I mean finding the > > > exact nod > > > between thousands is really hard. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Sincerely yours > > > > > > Victor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: http://www.nabble. com/Problem- > in-defining- node-set% 21%21%21% 21-tp25913815p25 940880.html > > Sent from the Abaqus Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > |
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Re: Problem in defining node set!!!!
by Dave Lindeman
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I believe the coordinates are always interpreted with respect to the
global Cartesian coordinate system. You'll need to perform the transformation externally (e.g., in Excel) prior to defining the points in Viewer. Regards, Dave ------------------------- Dave Lindeman Lead Research Specialist 3M Company 3M Center 235-3F-08 St. Paul, MN 55144 651-733-6383 Victor wrote: > > > Hi > Thanks for your comments. > In fact I used ABAQUS/Viewer. I defined a new coordinate system near > the points and give the pint positions in: > Tool> Path > Create > POINT LIST > > But, it says, there is not any result for these points. It seems there > is a problem in defining Coordinate system. I could see the coordinate > sytem corectly in Viewer in its position, but when I want to position > the nodes with respect to this coordinate system it does not work. > > Thanks in advance for your comments. > Best Regards > Victor > > --- On Wed, 21/10/09, Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@... > <mailto:ddlindeman%40mmm.com>> wrote: > > From: Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@... <mailto:ddlindeman%40mmm.com>> > Subject: Re: [ABAQUS] Problem in defining node set!!!! > To: Abaqus@... <mailto:Abaqus%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 0:38 > > > > Again, you do NOT need to define nodes, or a node set, in order to > > define the points to be used on a path within ABAQUS/Viewer. You simply > > define the coordinates of the points you are interested in. > > ABAQUS/Viewer takes care of the interpolation. > > Regards, > > Dave > > ------------ --------- ---- > > Dave Lindeman > > Lead Research Specialist > > 3M Company > > 3M Center 235-3F-08 > > St. Paul, MN 55144 > > 651-733-6383 > > Victor wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > let me explain more: the points from experiment is not exactly on nodes, > > > so I need interpolation between integration points. > > > The other difficultiy is giving these points as node set or .. in defing > > > a path, because selecting these points from CAE is realy hard and not > > > accurate. > > > Thanks in advance. > > > Regards > > > Victor > > > > > > --- On Sat, 17/10/09, ziyad <ziyad02@yahoo. com > > > <mailto:ziyad02% 40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > From: ziyad <ziyad02@yahoo. com <mailto:ziyad02% 40yahoo.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [ABAQUS] Problem in defining node set!!!! > > > To: ABAQUS@yahoogroups. com <mailto:ABAQUS% 40yahoogroups. com> > > > Date: Saturday, 17 October, 2009, 20:51 > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > If you have the coordinates of those points, you can open the inp > file then > > > > > > make finding by "ctrl+f" and try to fine the coordinates of each > node, then > > > > > > you find out the number of nodes which you can define as a node set > manually > > > > > > by > > > > > > *nset, nset=name > > > > > > numbers of nodes > > > > > > hope this help > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Ziyad > > > > > > goldman1378 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have some points from experiment and I should create a node set for > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the problem is finding the exact point in CAE. I mean finding the > > > > > > > exact nod > > > > > > > between thousands is really hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely yours > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Victor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > View this message in context: http://www.nabble. com/Problem- > > > in-defining- node-set% 21%21%21% 21-tp25913815p25 940880.html > > > > > > Sent from the Abaqus Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > |
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Re: Problem in defining node set!!!!
by goldman1378
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Thanks for your comment Dave. I should know the exact position of Global Coordinate system to use Excel. In fact I draw my model in CAE, so I do not have any idea where is the global coordinate system in my model. Right now I should give (X,Y,Z) of point to define a path, but I do not kow where is the coordinate system(Reference point). Right now when I give the position of nodes by (X,Y.Z), the points are far from my model. I have mixed up, I will be gratefull if you guide me. Thank sin advance. --- On Wed, 21/10/09, Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@...> wrote: From: Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@...> Subject: Re: [ABAQUS] Problem in defining node set!!!! To: Abaqus@... Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 18:17 I believe the coordinates are always interpreted with respect to the global Cartesian coordinate system. You'll need to perform the transformation externally (e.g., in Excel) prior to defining the points in Viewer. Regards, Dave ------------ --------- ---- Dave Lindeman Lead Research Specialist 3M Company 3M Center 235-3F-08 St. Paul, MN 55144 651-733-6383 Victor wrote: > > > Hi > Thanks for your comments. > In fact I used ABAQUS/Viewer. I defined a new coordinate system near > the points and give the pint positions in: > Tool> Path > Create > POINT LIST > > But, it says, there is not any result for these points. It seems there > is a problem in defining Coordinate system. I could see the coordinate > sytem corectly in Viewer in its position, but when I want to position > the nodes with respect to this coordinate system it does not work. > > Thanks in advance for your comments. > Best Regards > Victor > > --- On Wed, 21/10/09, Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@mmm. com > <mailto:ddlindeman% 40mmm.com> > wrote: > > From: Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@mmm. com <mailto:ddlindeman% 40mmm.com> > > Subject: Re: [ABAQUS] Problem in defining node set!!!! > To: Abaqus@yahoogroups. com <mailto:Abaqus% 40yahoogroups. com> > Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 0:38 > > > > Again, you do NOT need to define nodes, or a node set, in order to > > define the points to be used on a path within ABAQUS/Viewer. You simply > > define the coordinates of the points you are interested in. > > ABAQUS/Viewer takes care of the interpolation. > > Regards, > > Dave > > ------------ --------- ---- > > Dave Lindeman > > Lead Research Specialist > > 3M Company > > 3M Center 235-3F-08 > > St. Paul, MN 55144 > > 651-733-6383 > > Victor wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > let me explain more: the points from experiment is not exactly on nodes, > > > so I need interpolation between integration points. > > > The other difficultiy is giving these points as node set or .. in defing > > > a path, because selecting these points from CAE is realy hard and not > > > accurate. > > > Thanks in advance. > > > Regards > > > Victor > > > > > > --- On Sat, 17/10/09, ziyad <ziyad02@yahoo. com > > > <mailto:ziyad02% 40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > From: ziyad <ziyad02@yahoo. com <mailto:ziyad02% 40yahoo.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [ABAQUS] Problem in defining node set!!!! > > > To: ABAQUS@yahoogroups. com <mailto:ABAQUS% 40yahoogroups. com> > > > Date: Saturday, 17 October, 2009, 20:51 > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > If you have the coordinates of those points, you can open the inp > file then > > > > > > make finding by "ctrl+f" and try to fine the coordinates of each > node, then > > > > > > you find out the number of nodes which you can define as a node set > manually > > > > > > by > > > > > > *nset, nset=name > > > > > > numbers of nodes > > > > > > hope this help > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Ziyad > > > > > > goldman1378 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have some points from experiment and I should create a node set for > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the problem is finding the exact point in CAE. I mean finding the > > > > > > > exact nod > > > > > > > between thousands is really hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely yours > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Victor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > View this message in context: http://www.nabble. com/Problem- > > > in-defining- node-set% 21%21%21% 21-tp25913815p25 940880.html > > > > > > Sent from the Abaqus Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Problem in defining node set!!!!
by Dave Lindeman
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You can use the Query tools to determine the locations of few points
relative to the global coordinate system. From this information you should be able to determine the transformation. Regards, Dave ------------------------- Dave Lindeman Lead Research Specialist 3M Company 3M Center 235-3F-08 St. Paul, MN 55144 651-733-6383 Victor wrote: > > > Hi > Thanks for your comment Dave. > I should know the exact position of Global Coordinate system to use Excel. > > In fact I draw my model in CAE, so I do not have any idea where is the > global coordinate system in my model. Right now I should give (X,Y,Z) of > point to define a path, but I do not kow where is the coordinate > system(Reference point). Right now when I give the position of nodes by > (X,Y.Z), the points are far from my model. > > I have mixed up, I will be gratefull if you guide me. > > Thank sin advance. > > --- On Wed, 21/10/09, Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@... > <mailto:ddlindeman%40mmm.com>> wrote: > > From: Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@... <mailto:ddlindeman%40mmm.com>> > Subject: Re: [ABAQUS] Problem in defining node set!!!! > To: Abaqus@... <mailto:Abaqus%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 18:17 > > > > I believe the coordinates are always interpreted with respect to the > > global Cartesian coordinate system. You'll need to perform the > > transformation externally (e.g., in Excel) prior to defining the points > > in Viewer. > > Regards, > > Dave > > ------------ --------- ---- > > Dave Lindeman > > Lead Research Specialist > > 3M Company > > 3M Center 235-3F-08 > > St. Paul, MN 55144 > > 651-733-6383 > > Victor wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > Thanks for your comments. > > > In fact I used ABAQUS/Viewer. I defined a new coordinate system near > > > the points and give the pint positions in: > > > Tool> Path > Create > POINT LIST > > > > > > But, it says, there is not any result for these points. It seems there > > > is a problem in defining Coordinate system. I could see the coordinate > > > sytem corectly in Viewer in its position, but when I want to position > > > the nodes with respect to this coordinate system it does not work. > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your comments. > > > Best Regards > > > Victor > > > > > > --- On Wed, 21/10/09, Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@mmm. com > > > <mailto:ddlindeman% 40mmm.com> > wrote: > > > > > > From: Dave Lindeman <ddlindeman@mmm. com <mailto:ddlindeman% 40mmm.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [ABAQUS] Problem in defining node set!!!! > > > To: Abaqus@yahoogroups. com <mailto:Abaqus% 40yahoogroups. com> > > > Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 0:38 > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, you do NOT need to define nodes, or a node set, in order to > > > > > > define the points to be used on a path within ABAQUS/Viewer. You simply > > > > > > define the coordinates of the points you are interested in. > > > > > > ABAQUS/Viewer takes care of the interpolation. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---- > > > > > > Dave Lindeman > > > > > > Lead Research Specialist > > > > > > 3M Company > > > > > > 3M Center 235-3F-08 > > > > > > St. Paul, MN 55144 > > > > > > 651-733-6383 > > > > > > Victor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > let me explain more: the points from experiment is not exactly on > nodes, > > > > > > > so I need interpolation between integration points. > > > > > > > The other difficultiy is giving these points as node set or .. in > defing > > > > > > > a path, because selecting these points from CAE is realy hard and not > > > > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Victor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 17/10/09, ziyad <ziyad02@yahoo. com > > > > > > > <mailto:ziyad02% 40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ziyad <ziyad02@yahoo. com <mailto:ziyad02% 40yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ABAQUS] Problem in defining node set!!!! > > > > > > > To: ABAQUS@yahoogroups. com <mailto:ABAQUS% 40yahoogroups. com> > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, 17 October, 2009, 20:51 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the coordinates of those points, you can open the inp > > > file then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make finding by "ctrl+f" and try to fine the coordinates of each > > > node, then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you find out the number of nodes which you can define as a node set > > > manually > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *nset, nset=name > > > > > > > > > > > > > > numbers of nodes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope this help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ziyad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > goldman1378 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have some points from experiment and I should create a node set for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the problem is finding the exact point in CAE. I mean finding the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exact nod > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > between thousands is really hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely yours > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Victor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > View this message in context: http://www.nabble. com/Problem- > > > > > > > in-defining- node-set% 21%21%21% 21-tp25913815p25 940880.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from the Abaqus Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > |
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