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Running Ubuntu 11.04 64bit.  I have added repository 'deb
http://owfs.davromaniak.eu/ ubuntu natty'.

Via Synaptic I can see the various owfs packages, I installed owfs which
also installed owfs-common and that looked OK , but then I installed
owfs-server and that un-installs owfs.  Is that expected?

My Python program runs owserver first then runs owfs to read from the
server, so I need both of them.

Is this a bug or have I done something wrong?

Thanks
Mick

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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 On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:18:26 +0000, Mick Sulley wrote:

> Running Ubuntu 11.04 64bit.  I have added repository 'deb
> http://owfs.davromaniak.eu/ ubuntu natty'.
>
> Via Synaptic I can see the various owfs packages, I installed owfs
> which
> also installed owfs-common and that looked OK , but then I installed
> owfs-server and that un-installs owfs.  Is that expected?
>
> My Python program runs owserver first then runs owfs to read from the
> server, so I need both of them.
>
> Is this a bug or have I done something wrong?
>
> Thanks
> Mick
>
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 Hi Mick.

 Actually, the owfs package is the owfs with fuse FS.

 The removing of the owfs package is completely normal when installing
 owfs-server (owserver).

 With owfs-server, I recommend to install owfs-client which contain the
 clients to use with owserver (such as owread, owlist, etc...).

 Thanks.

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

by Paul Alfille-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hmm...
 
It would be common to need both owfs owhttpd and owserver at the same time.  Could that be accomodated in the packaging scheme?
 
Paul Alfille

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Cyril LAVIER <cyril.lavier@...> wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:18:26 +0000, Mick Sulley wrote:
> Running Ubuntu 11.04 64bit.  I have added repository 'deb
> http://owfs.davromaniak.eu/ ubuntu natty'.
>
> Via Synaptic I can see the various owfs packages, I installed owfs
> which
> also installed owfs-common and that looked OK , but then I installed
> owfs-server and that un-installs owfs.  Is that expected?
>
> My Python program runs owserver first then runs owfs to read from the
> server, so I need both of them.
>
> Is this a bug or have I done something wrong?
>
> Thanks
> Mick
>
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 Hi Mick.

 Actually, the owfs package is the owfs with fuse FS.

 The removing of the owfs package is completely normal when installing
 owfs-server (owserver).

 With owfs-server, I recommend to install owfs-client which contain the
 clients to use with owserver (such as owread, owlist, etc...).

 Thanks.

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

by Cyril LAVIER-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Yes I can perform this.

By the way, I was not aware of this possibilities, as the packaging scheme dates back from the time I made owfs packages for my company, and we used owfs and owserver on separated servers, so I thought the 1wire bus could be accessed only by one daemon at the time.

Paul, can you confirm we can have all daemons running and accessing the same 1 wire bus at the same time ?

I hope I will have time this weekend to perform the changes and launch the builds.

Also, for information, since OWFS packages entered Debian Unstable few months ago, I only to "package maintenance" on this repository and packages, so no new version only few corrections like adding build archs and package dependencies.

I plan to backport official packages by Vincent Danjean, but I was unable to find enough time to perform it (nginx packaging takes all my time recently).

Thanks.

On 01/20/2012 07:38 PM, Paul Alfille wrote:
Hmm...
 
It would be common to need both owfs owhttpd and owserver at the same time.  Could that be accomodated in the packaging scheme?
 
Paul Alfille

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Cyril LAVIER <cyril.lavier@...> wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:18:26 +0000, Mick Sulley wrote:
> Running Ubuntu 11.04 64bit.  I have added repository 'deb
> http://owfs.davromaniak.eu/ ubuntu natty'.
>
> Via Synaptic I can see the various owfs packages, I installed owfs
> which
> also installed owfs-common and that looked OK , but then I installed
> owfs-server and that un-installs owfs.  Is that expected?
>
> My Python program runs owserver first then runs owfs to read from the
> server, so I need both of them.
>
> Is this a bug or have I done something wrong?
>
> Thanks
> Mick
>
>
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 Hi Mick.

 Actually, the owfs package is the owfs with fuse FS.

 The removing of the owfs package is completely normal when installing
 owfs-server (owserver).

 With owfs-server, I recommend to install owfs-client which contain the
 clients to use with owserver (such as owread, owlist, etc...).

 Thanks.

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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Dnia 20-01-2012 o 20:00:44 Cyril Lavier <cyril.lavier@...>  
napisał(a):

> By the way, I was not aware of this possibilities, as the packaging  
> scheme dates back from the time I made owfs packages for my company, and  
> we used owfs and owserver on separated servers, so I thought the 1wire  
> bus could be accessed only by one daemon at the time.
>
>  Paul, can you confirm we can have all daemons running and accessing the  
> same 1 wire bus at the same time ?

I know I'm not Paul ;-) but AFAIK You can run owserver do access the  
hardware and the run owftp, owfs, owhttpd.... communicating with owserver.

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:06 PM, p4trykx <p4trykx@...> wrote:

I know I'm not Paul ;-) but AFAIK You can run owserver to access the
hardware and the run owftp, owfs, owhttpd.... communicating with owserver.

Exactly. This was the original reason for owserver -- to share access to the physical bus among different programs.

You are right, though, that accessing the physical bus with more than one program without owserver doing the negotiation will cause problems. For some buses, like USB, the operating system will prevent simultaneous access. I think serial port access locking isn't enforced, unfortunately.

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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On 01/20/2012 08:52 PM, Paul Alfille wrote:


On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:06 PM, p4trykx <p4trykx@...> wrote:

I know I'm not Paul ;-) but AFAIK You can run owserver to access the
hardware and the run owftp, owfs, owhttpd.... communicating with owserver.

Exactly. This was the original reason for owserver -- to share access to the physical bus among different programs.

You are right, though, that accessing the physical bus with more than one program without owserver doing the negotiation will cause problems. For some buses, like USB, the operating system will prevent simultaneous access. I think serial port access locking isn't enforced, unfortunately.


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Thanks you for this additionnal information.

I just modified the packages, and the builds are running now. I think they will run for most of the night.

I'm sorry for making such a dumb mistake on packaging.

Thanks.

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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Paul Alfille <paul.alfille@...> wrote:

> It would be common to need both owfs owhttpd and owserver at the same
> time.  Could that be accomodated in the packaging scheme?

This is working fine in the official Debian package. Any reason why
Ubuntu packaging is not based on this one?

I'm quite certain that it will just build more or less out of the box
on Ubuntu using dpkg-buildpackage.

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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Is there any way that I can test that?

I am on Ubuntu 11.04 64 bit and I just added repository 'deb
http://owfs.davromaniak.eu/ ubuntu natty' and installed with Synaptic.

If you can give me some instructions on what to do I am more than happy
to do some testing, but bear in mind that my technical skills are
somewhat lower than others in this group :)

Cheers
Mick


On 21/01/12 12:37, Sven Geggus wrote:

> Paul Alfille<paul.alfille@...>  wrote:
>
>> It would be common to need both owfs owhttpd and owserver at the same
>> time.  Could that be accomodated in the packaging scheme?
> This is working fine in the official Debian package. Any reason why
> Ubuntu packaging is not based on this one?
>
> I'm quite certain that it will just build more or less out of the box
> on Ubuntu using dpkg-buildpackage.
>
> Sven
>

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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On 01/21/2012 01:37 PM, Sven Geggus wrote:

> Paul Alfille<paul.alfille@...>  wrote:
>
>> It would be common to need both owfs owhttpd and owserver at the same
>> time.  Could that be accomodated in the packaging scheme?
> This is working fine in the official Debian package. Any reason why
> Ubuntu packaging is not based on this one?
>
> I'm quite certain that it will just build more or less out of the box
> on Ubuntu using dpkg-buildpackage.
>
> Sven
>
Hi Sven.

The main reason is that my packaging work dates back when I made
packages for my company, and when I wanted to propose these packages for
inclusion in Debian, Vincent Danjean already made such packages, so I
decided to stop maintaining my own packages and give some help to vincent.

So this repository is only here as an archive, and also for old systems
running unsupported versions.

Thanks.

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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On 01/21/2012 01:50 PM, Mick Sulley wrote:

> Is there any way that I can test that?
>
> I am on Ubuntu 11.04 64 bit and I just added repository 'deb
> http://owfs.davromaniak.eu/ ubuntu natty' and installed with Synaptic.
>
> If you can give me some instructions on what to do I am more than happy
> to do some testing, but bear in mind that my technical skills are
> somewhat lower than others in this group :)
>
> Cheers
> Mick
>
>
> On 21/01/12 12:37, Sven Geggus wrote:
>> Paul Alfille<paul.alfille@...>   wrote:
>>
>>> It would be common to need both owfs owhttpd and owserver at the same
>>> time.  Could that be accomodated in the packaging scheme?
>> This is working fine in the official Debian package. Any reason why
>> Ubuntu packaging is not based on this one?
>>
>> I'm quite certain that it will just build more or less out of the box
>> on Ubuntu using dpkg-buildpackage.
>>
>> Sven
>>
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Hi Mick.

I just updated the repository with the new package scheme.

Now, we can install owfs, owfs-server, owftpd, owhttpd on the same system.

Maybe there will some configuration file issue, but for the moment, I
don't have any hardware to test it.

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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Mick Sulley <mick@...> wrote:

> Is there any way that I can test that?

The packages I build for Debian stable also work on Ubuntu 10.11

So you might want to install them from here:
deb http://geggus.net/debian squeeze main

however building them from sources is probably better:

* Put the following into /etc/apt/sources.list
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

* run "apt-get update"
* run "apt-get source owfs"
* cd into generated directory
* run dpkg-buildpackage

If an error occurs (likely) install the missing packages and re-run
dpkg-buildpackage afterwords.

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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Hi Cyril,

OK I can now install owfs and owserver.

I ran a quick test with a serial adapter (DS9097U) and it seems to be
working, but I ran a test with a USB adapter (DS9490R) and it does not
seem to work.

This is what I see with the USB -

mick@mick-desktop:~/Documents/Controls$ owfs  -u -m /var/1-wire/mnt
DEFAULT: owlib.c:SetupSingleInboundConnection(201) Cannot open USB bus
master
DEFAULT: owlib.c:LibStart(54) No valid 1-wire buses found

USB is not a major problem for me, I can proceed with serial.  Let me
know if there is any other info or test you would like to see.

Thanks for your help and fast response
Mick


On 21/01/12 13:20, Cyril Lavier wrote:

> Hi Mick.
>
> I just updated the repository with the new package scheme.
>
> Now, we can install owfs, owfs-server, owftpd, owhttpd on the same
> system.
>
> Maybe there will some configuration file issue, but for the moment, I
> don't have any hardware to test it.
>
> Thanks.
>

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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Dnia 21-01-2012 o 14:53:54 Mick Sulley <mick@...> napisał(a):

> mick@mick-desktop:~/Documents/Controls$ owfs  -u -m /var/1-wire/mnt
> DEFAULT: owlib.c:SetupSingleInboundConnection(201) Cannot open USB bus
> master
> DEFAULT: owlib.c:LibStart(54) No valid 1-wire buses found
>
> USB is not a major problem for me, I can proceed with serial.  Let me
> know if there is any other info or test you would like to see.

Try running it as root I think normal user on ubuntu does not have access  
to usb.
sudo owfs  -u -m /var/1-wire/mnt



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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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Yes that is it, works fine.

Many thanks
Mick

On 21/01/12 14:24, p4trykx wrote:

> Dnia 21-01-2012 o 14:53:54 Mick Sulley <mick@...> napisał(a):
>
>> mick@mick-desktop:~/Documents/Controls$ owfs  -u -m /var/1-wire/mnt
>> DEFAULT: owlib.c:SetupSingleInboundConnection(201) Cannot open USB bus
>> master
>> DEFAULT: owlib.c:LibStart(54) No valid 1-wire buses found
>>
>> USB is not a major problem for me, I can proceed with serial.  Let me
>> know if there is any other info or test you would like to see.
>
> Try running it as root I think normal user on ubuntu does not have
> access to usb.
> sudo owfs  -u -m /var/1-wire/mnt
>
>
>

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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Why "non-free"? I'm guessing there are other repository contents that are non-free since owfs is GPL2 and similar even less restrictive licenses.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Sven Geggus <lists@...> wrote:
however building them from sources is probably better:

* Put the following into /etc/apt/sources.list
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free



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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

by Sven Geggus-5 :: Rate this Message:

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Paul Alfille <paul.alfille@...> wrote:

> Why "non-free"? I'm guessing there are other repository contents that are
> non-free since owfs is GPL2 and similar even less restrictive licenses.

Not needed in this case. Just cut and paste from my own configfile.

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Re: Problem when Installed From Ubuntu Repository

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Le 20/01/2012 23:42, Cyril Lavier a écrit :
> On 01/20/2012 08:52 PM, Paul Alfille wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:06 PM, p4trykx <p4trykx@... <mailto:p4trykx@...>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     I know I'm not Paul ;-) but AFAIK You can run owserver to access the
>>     hardware and the run owftp, owfs, owhttpd.... communicating with owserver.
>>
>> Exactly. This was the original reason for owserver -- to share access to the physical bus among different programs.

  My Debian packaging is, by default, proposing a configuration
where owserver access to the hardware (to be configurated by
the admin) and all other tools talk to owserver by default.

> I just modified the packages, and the builds are running now. I think they will run for most of the night.

  I would be glad to have some help to maintain my packages in
Debian. If some of you are interested into help me and/or doing
backporting for old distribution, I will be pleased to work
with you. You can also just submit bugs in the BTS if you
want to describe some package improvement.
  You can get the lastest state of the packaging here:
git clone git://git.debian.org/collab-maint/owfs.git

  What I would like to do is to mutiarchify the package but I did not
find the time to do it yet.
  I just built and uploaded owfs 2.8p14 but it will be blocked in the
NEW queue probably a few days (library soname change => new binary
packages)

  Regards,
    Vincent

> I'm sorry for making such a dumb mistake on packaging.
>
> Thanks.
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