Problems with copying music to MSC microSD card on Sansa Fuze with Amarok 2.2

[Fenris]

I'm still having some serious problems with copying music to my Fuze.

A lot of albums will not copy, the message I get is that the track is
already on the device but a check using either command line or file
manager shows that there are no tracks named that way on there. I do
note that when the copy does work the system load jumps to between 25
and 35, although the desktop is not sluggish when this happens.

It isn't clear what is happening with this, but I can only say that in
Amarok 1.4 it just worked.

If anyone has any comments about the reliability of the new MSC code in
Amarok 2.2 I'd be interested to know what you think.

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[Fenris]

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:11:56 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm@...> wrote:

> I'm still having some serious problems with copying music to my Fuze.
>
> A lot of albums will not copy, the message I get is that the track is
> already on the device but a check using either command line or file
> manager shows that there are no tracks named that way on there. I do
> note that when the copy does work the system load jumps to between 25
> and 35, although the desktop is not sluggish when this happens.
>
> It isn't clear what is happening with this, but I can only say that in
> Amarok 1.4 it just worked.
>
> If anyone has any comments about the reliability of the new MSC code in
> Amarok 2.2 I'd be interested to know what you think.
>

I'm not trying to get multiple tracks to copy, it seems to be
proceeding, but the system load average is now over 140! All the
processes seem to be of this type:

kdeinit4: kio_file [kdeinit] file local:/tmp/ksocket-bdmowHRBc/klauncherMT3184.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-bdmowHRBc/amarokPW3

so clearly Amarok is causing them. 140 processes seems excessive just
to copy some files from one disk to another.

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[Fenris]

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:22:49 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm@...> wrote:

> I'm not trying

That's *now*, not *not* ;-)

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[Aran Cox-2]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Brian Morrison <bdm@...> wrote:

> I'm still having some serious problems with copying music to my Fuze.
>
> A lot of albums will not copy, the message I get is that the track is
> already on the device but a check using either command line or file
> manager shows that there are no tracks named that way on there. I do
> note that when the copy does work the system load jumps to between 25
> and 35, although the desktop is not sluggish when this happens.
>
> It isn't clear what is happening with this, but I can only say that in
> Amarok 1.4 it just worked.
>
> If anyone has any comments about the reliability of the new MSC code in
> Amarok 2.2 I'd be interested to know what you think.
>

Amarok has a hardcoded list of file types it thinks UMS devices
support.  If your files are not one of those types it will eliminate
them from the list of files to be copied.  The other reason it might
eliminate them is because they are already on the device.  It
generates the same error message in any case.  I'm sure this will be
configurable at some point but for now you can edit
src/collection/umscollection/handler/UmsHandler.cpp.  Look for
UmsHandler::supportedFormats and you'll see a list.  You can set the
formats there for now.  I'm just guessing that might be your problem
as I had the same problem until I added flac and ogg to the list of
supported file types.
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[Fenris]

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:22:49 +0100
Brian Morrison <bdm@...> wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:11:56 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm@...> wrote:
>
> > I'm still having some serious problems with copying music to my Fuze.
> >
> > A lot of albums will not copy, the message I get is that the track is
> > already on the device but a check using either command line or file
> > manager shows that there are no tracks named that way on there. I do
> > note that when the copy does work the system load jumps to between 25
> > and 35, although the desktop is not sluggish when this happens.
> >
> > It isn't clear what is happening with this, but I can only say that in
> > Amarok 1.4 it just worked.
> >
> > If anyone has any comments about the reliability of the new MSC code in
> > Amarok 2.2 I'd be interested to know what you think.
> >
>
> I'm not trying to get multiple tracks to copy, it seems to be
> proceeding, but the system load average is now over 140! All the
> processes seem to be of this type:
>
> kdeinit4: kio_file [kdeinit] file local:/tmp/ksocket-bdmowHRBc/klauncherMT3184.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-bdmowHRBc/amarokPW3
>
> so clearly Amarok is causing them. 140 processes seems excessive just
> to copy some files from one disk to another.
>

Any thoughts on this from the developers? I can't imagine why Amarok is
creating literally hundreds of processes just to copy to a UMS device.

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On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Brian Morrison <bdm@...> wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:22:49 +0100
> Brian Morrison <bdm@...> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:11:56 +0100
>> Brian Morrison <bdm@...> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm still having some serious problems with copying music to my Fuze.
>> >
>> > A lot of albums will not copy, the message I get is that the track is
>> > already on the device but a check using either command line or file
>> > manager shows that there are no tracks named that way on there. I do
>> > note that when the copy does work the system load jumps to between 25
>> > and 35, although the desktop is not sluggish when this happens.
>> >
>> > It isn't clear what is happening with this, but I can only say that in
>> > Amarok 1.4 it just worked.
>> >
>> > If anyone has any comments about the reliability of the new MSC code in
>> > Amarok 2.2 I'd be interested to know what you think.
>> >
>>
>> I'm not trying to get multiple tracks to copy, it seems to be
>> proceeding, but the system load average is now over 140! All the
>> processes seem to be of this type:
>>
>> kdeinit4: kio_file [kdeinit] file local:/tmp/ksocket-bdmowHRBc/klauncherMT3184.slave-socket local:/tmp/ksocket-bdmowHRBc/amarokPW3
>>
>> so clearly Amarok is causing them. 140 processes seems excessive just
>> to copy some files from one disk to another.
>>
>
> Any thoughts on this from the developers? I can't imagine why Amarok is
> creating literally hundreds of processes just to copy to a UMS device.

The explanation for this behaviour can be found in this mailing list
thread, I think:

http://lists.kde.org/?t=124531188100002&r=1&w=2

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[Fenris]

On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:56:02 +0200
Mark Kretschmann <kretschmann@...> wrote:

> > Any thoughts on this from the developers? I can't imagine why Amarok is
> > creating literally hundreds of processes just to copy to a UMS device.
>
> The explanation for this behaviour can be found in this mailing list
> thread, I think:
>
> http://lists.kde.org/?t=124531188100002&r=1&w=2
>

OK Mark, thanks for the pointer. I had a read, but it left me wondering
if they are actually fixing this or whether they've not yet worked out
how.

I have to say that this situation makes using my Sansa Fuze with Amarok
incredibly painful, and yesterday it managed to completely stuff up the
SD card in it to the extent that I had to reformat and reload all my
music. In all my years of using RH and Fedora I've *never* had a card
file system corrupted like this.

In the end it took well over 4 hours to copy about 9GB of music files,
and that was doing it in smaller pieces rather than all at once.

I really hope this situation improves.

BTW, would it be possible to get Amarok to automatically read the
player contents when connected and perhaps do this without blocking
the UI?

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