Problems with some simbols in MacVim

[Pablo Giménez Pizarro]

Hi.
I am using MacVim with a spanish keyboard layout.
I always use the termencoding=utf-8 option.
My problem is that I can´t use some symbols like for example the #, basically it doesn´t appear whe I typed them.
All the symbols works properly in other tools is just MacVim,
Is this related with some utf problem like this:
http://old.nabble.com/MacVim-file-encoding-and-Quicklook-td17289501.html
Or is just a limitation of MacVim with thespanish keyboard layout.
thx


PD: is the problem described in the above link solved?

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[Pablo Giménez Pizarro]

Just checking, now is printing characters but not the proper ones.
In the spanish layout you have  to press Option(Alt)+3 to get the  # symbol.
I am getting a different one, is like if MacVim doesn´t like the spanish keyboard layout.
thx

El 11 de noviembre de 2009 01:26, Pablo Giménez <pablogipi@...> escribió:

Hi.
I am using MacVim with a spanish keyboard layout.
I always use the termencoding=utf-8 option.
My problem is that I can´t use some symbols like for example the #, basically it doesn´t appear whe I typed them.
All the symbols works properly in other tools is just MacVim,
Is this related with some utf problem like this:
http://old.nabble.com/MacVim-file-encoding-and-Quicklook-td17289501.html
Or is just a limitation of MacVim with thespanish keyboard layout.
thx


PD: is the problem described in the above link solved?

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[Israel Chauca Fuentes-2]

I also use the spanish layout and termencoding is set to utf-8, but I  
don't have any trouble with # or any other key.

Israel

On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Pablo Giménez wrote:

> Just checking, now is printing characters but not the proper ones.
> In the spanish layout you have  to press Option(Alt)+3 to get the  #  
> symbol.
> I am getting a different one, is like if MacVim doesn´t like the  
> spanish
> keyboard layout.
> thx
>
> El 11 de noviembre de 2009 01:26, Pablo Giménez  
> <pablogipi@...>escribió:
>
>> Hi.
>> I am using MacVim with a spanish keyboard layout.
>> I always use the termencoding=utf-8 option.
>> My problem is that I can´t use some symbols like for example the #,
>> basically it doesn´t appear whe I typed them.
>> All the symbols works properly in other tools is just MacVim,
>> Is this related with some utf problem like this:
>> http://old.nabble.com/MacVim-file-encoding-and-Quicklook-td17289501.html
>> Or is just a limitation of MacVim with thespanish keyboard layout.
>> thx
>>
>>
>> PD: is the problem described in the above link solved?
>>
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>> Un saludo
>> Best Regards
>> Pablo Giménez
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Un saludo
> Best Regards
> Pablo Giménez
>
> >

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[Pablo Giménez Pizarro]

Thanks Israel.
Just checking seems that in the Mac the spanish keyboard layout is in using the latin encoding rather than unicode. I don't know if this can cause the problem.

2009/11/11 Israel Chauca Fuentes <israelchauca@...>

I also use the spanish layout and termencoding is set to utf-8, but I
don't have any trouble with # or any other key.

Israel

On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Pablo Giménez wrote:

> Just checking, now is printing characters but not the proper ones.
> In the spanish layout you have  to press Option(Alt)+3 to get the  #
> symbol.
> I am getting a different one, is like if MacVim doesn´t like the
> spanish
> keyboard layout.
> thx
>
> El 11 de noviembre de 2009 01:26, Pablo Giménez
> <pablogipi@...>escribió:
>
>> Hi.
>> I am using MacVim with a spanish keyboard layout.
>> I always use the termencoding=utf-8 option.
>> My problem is that I can´t use some symbols like for example the #,
>> basically it doesn´t appear whe I typed them.
>> All the symbols works properly in other tools is just MacVim,
>> Is this related with some utf problem like this:
>> http://old.nabble.com/MacVim-file-encoding-and-Quicklook-td17289501.html
>> Or is just a limitation of MacVim with thespanish keyboard layout.
>> thx
>>
>>
>> PD: is the problem described in the above link solved?
>>
>> --
>> Un saludo
>> Best Regards
>> Pablo Giménez
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Un saludo
> Best Regards
> Pablo Giménez
>
> >

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[björn-11]

Hi Pablo,

My replies are a little out of order, I hope you can cope.

2009/11/11 Pablo Giménez:
> Just checking seems that in the Mac the spanish keyboard layout is in using
> the latin encoding rather than unicode. I don't know if this can cause the
> problem.

All input that reaches MacVim is Unicode (UTF-16)

>> > Just checking, now is printing characters but not the proper ones.
>> > In the spanish layout you have  to press Option(Alt)+3 to get the  #
>> > symbol.

No, you have to press Shift+3 to get # using Spanish layout.

Just open up "Keyboard Viewer" and you can see where all the keys are
(go to "Input Sources" in the "Language & Text" System Preference
pane, click "Show Input menu in menu bar", and in the list view tick
the "Keyboard & Character Viewer" item at the top, then you can open
the keyboard viewer from the language menu that sits next to the clock
on the menu bar).

>> >> I am using MacVim with a spanish keyboard layout.
>> >> I always use the termencoding=utf-8 option.

This option is forcibly set to utf-8 anyway and is ignored, so you
don't have to set it.

>> >> My problem is that I can´t use some symbols like for example the #,
>> >> basically it doesn´t appear whe I typed them.
>> >> All the symbols works properly in other tools is just MacVim,

I don't understand the problem.  Please be more specific (step-by-step
instructions).

>> >> Is this related with some utf problem like this:
>> >>
>> >> http://old.nabble.com/MacVim-file-encoding-and-Quicklook-td17289501.html

No, that does not sound related.

>> >> Or is just a limitation of MacVim with thespanish keyboard layout.

No, there is no limitation that I am aware of.

>> >> PD: is the problem described in the above link solved?

No, still waiting for a patch. (hint, hint)

Björn

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[Pablo Giménez Pizarro]

2009/11/11 björn <bjorn.winckler@...>

Hi Pablo,

My replies are a little out of order, I hope you can cope.

2009/11/11 Pablo Giménez:

> Just checking seems that in the Mac the spanish keyboard layout is in using
> the latin encoding rather than unicode. I don't know if this can cause the
> problem.

All input that reaches MacVim is Unicode (UTF-16)

>> > Just checking, now is printing characters but not the proper ones.
>> > In the spanish layout you have  to press Option(Alt)+3 to get the  #
>> > symbol.

No, you have to press Shift+3 to get # using Spanish layout.

Sorry Bjorn but in the Spanish layout # is Option+3, I am sure, uou you can see it in the keyboard viewer and I type it everyday :)
If I open the vim shipped with MacOSX from terminal, it recognizes the Option+3 as the # character. So this only affects MacVim.
 But ... after some testing I realized that the problem is that I am using set macmeta, to use some keymaps with the M modifier.
This seems to cause that MacVim is not passing the Option(alt) modifier properly for some key combinations, like the Option+3.
Without macmeta the keyboard works perfectly, but I need the macmeta :)

Just open up "Keyboard Viewer" and you can see where all the keys are
(go to "Input Sources" in the "Language & Text" System Preference
pane, click "Show Input menu in menu bar", and in the list view tick
the "Keyboard & Character Viewer" item at the top, then you can open
the keyboard viewer from the language menu that sits next to the clock
on the menu bar).

>> >> I am using MacVim with a spanish keyboard layout.
>> >> I always use the termencoding=utf-8 option.

This option is forcibly set to utf-8 anyway and is ignored, so you
don't have to set it.

>> >> My problem is that I can´t use some symbols like for example the #,
>> >> basically it doesn´t appear whe I typed them.
>> >> All the symbols works properly in other tools is just MacVim,

I don't understand the problem.  Please be more specific (step-by-step
instructions).

>> >> Is this related with some utf problem like this:
>> >>
>> >> http://old.nabble.com/MacVim-file-encoding-and-Quicklook-td17289501.html

No, that does not sound related.

>> >> Or is just a limitation of MacVim with thespanish keyboard layout.

No, there is no limitation that I am aware of.

>> >> PD: is the problem described in the above link solved?

No, still waiting for a patch. (hint, hint)

Björn

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[björn-11]

2009/11/13 Pablo Giménez:
>> >> > Just checking, now is printing characters but not the proper ones.
>> >> > In the spanish layout you have  to press Option(Alt)+3 to get the  #
>> >> > symbol.
>>
>> No, you have to press Shift+3 to get # using Spanish layout.
>
> Sorry Bjorn but in the Spanish layout # is Option+3, I am sure, uou you can
> see it in the keyboard viewer and I type it everyday :)

Ok, I see that if you use the "Spanish - ISO" layout it is Alt+3.  I
tested with the layout "Spanish" which does use Shift+3.  How
confusing. :-/

> If I open the vim shipped with MacOSX from terminal, it recognizes the
> Option+3 as the # character. So this only affects MacVim.
>  But ... after some testing I realized that the problem is that I am using
> set macmeta, to use some keymaps with the M modifier.
> This seems to cause that MacVim is not passing the Option(alt) modifier
> properly for some key combinations, like the Option+3.
> Without macmeta the keyboard works perfectly, but I need the macmeta :)

Sorry, there is nothing I can do about that.  Either you let Mac OS X
interpret Alt-presses ('macmeta' off), or you let Vim handle it
('macmeta' on)...you can't have both.  My suggestion is to rebind keys
that use Alt to use e.g. Cmd (<D-..>) instead and turn 'macmeta' off.
At any rate, there is no bug here.

Björn

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[Pablo Giménez Pizarro]

2009/11/13 björn <bjorn.winckler@...>

2009/11/13 Pablo Giménez:

>> >> > Just checking, now is printing characters but not the proper ones.
>> >> > In the spanish layout you have  to press Option(Alt)+3 to get the  #
>> >> > symbol.
>>
>> No, you have to press Shift+3 to get # using Spanish layout.
>
> Sorry Bjorn but in the Spanish layout # is Option+3, I am sure, uou you can
> see it in the keyboard viewer and I type it everyday :)

Ok, I see that if you use the "Spanish - ISO" layout it is Alt+3.  I
tested with the layout "Spanish" which does use Shift+3.  How
confusing. :-/

> If I open the vim shipped with MacOSX from terminal, it recognizes the
> Option+3 as the # character. So this only affects MacVim.
>  But ... after some testing I realized that the problem is that I am using
> set macmeta, to use some keymaps with the M modifier.
> This seems to cause that MacVim is not passing the Option(alt) modifier
> properly for some key combinations, like the Option+3.
> Without macmeta the keyboard works perfectly, but I need the macmeta :)

Sorry, there is nothing I can do about that.  Either you let Mac OS X
interpret Alt-presses ('macmeta' off), or you let Vim handle it
('macmeta' on)...you can't have both.  My suggestion is to rebind keys
that use Alt to use e.g. Cmd (<D-..>) instead and turn 'macmeta' off.
At any rate, there is no bug here.

Yep I know I have to rebuild some of my shortcuts for the mac.
Thanks Bjorn

Björn

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