Profile2: Official release

[Steve Swinsburg-2]

Hello everyone,

I am very excited to announce that Profile2 v1.0 has been officially  
released!

Profile2 is a complete re-design and re-development of the existing  
Profile tool in Sakai. It gives you more of a Facebook style interface  
for editing your profile. In addition you have a comprehensive set of  
Privacy controls to allow you to choose who can see what part(s) of  
your Profile.

With Profile2 you can post status updates, search for people by name  
and common interests, view their profiles, view their friends, add  
them as friends, and much more.

Profile2 can be run seamlessly alongside the existing profile in Sakai  
to allow you to evaluate both profile tools. If you've never used the  
Profile tool in Sakai before, now is the time to start!

View this space in Confluence for screenshots, instructions on where  
to get the source, how to build it and how to configure it:
http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/Profile2

A migration utility is included which allows you to convert existing  
Profiles into Profile2 profiles.

Many more features are planned for future releases of Profile2, and  
you can keep track of progress on both the Confluence space and in  
Profile2's Jira space:
http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/PRFL


If you have any comments or questions, please send them along.


cheers,
Steve

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Steve Swinsburg
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Centre for e-Science
Lancaster University
Lancaster
LA1 4YT

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[Adam Marshall]

How will profile 2 sit with sakai 3, will it be ported or will Sakai 3 use
the original profile tool?

 

Will profile 2 replace the original profile in 2.7?

 

We wouldn't want to migrate and later regret our decision.

 

Adam

 

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From: Steve Swinsburg [mailto:s.swinsburg@...]
Sent: 04 February 2009 16:29
To: sakai-dev Dev; Using Sakai Email List
Subject: Profile2: Official release

 

Hello everyone,

 

I am very excited to announce that Profile2 v1.0 has been officially
released!

 

Profile2 is a complete re-design and re-development of the existing Profile
tool in Sakai. It gives you more of a Facebook style interface for editing
your profile. In addition you have a comprehensive set of Privacy controls
to allow you to choose who can see what part(s) of your Profile.

 

With Profile2 you can post status updates, search for people by name and
common interests, view their profiles, view their friends, add them as
friends, and much more.

 

Profile2 can be run seamlessly alongside the existing profile in Sakai to
allow you to evaluate both profile tools. If you've never used the Profile
tool in Sakai before, now is the time to start!

 

View this space in Confluence for screenshots, instructions on where to get
the source, how to build it and how to configure it:

http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/Profile2

 

A migration utility is included which allows you to convert existing
Profiles into Profile2 profiles.

 

Many more features are planned for future releases of Profile2, and you can
keep track of progress on both the Confluence space and in Profile2's Jira
space:

http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/PRFL

 

 

If you have any comments or questions, please send them along.

 

 

cheers,

Steve

 

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Steve Swinsburg

Portal Systems Developer
Centre for e-Science
Lancaster University
Lancaster

LA1 4YT

 

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[Steve Swinsburg-2]

Hi Adam,

I've had discussions with the K2 group about incorporating the  
services of Profile2 into Sakai3 although the UI will be different in  
Sakai3 (as will all others as well).

I am hoping that Profile2 can be included in Sakai 2.7, as there are  
heaps of new features that give it an edge and its much more Web 2.0  
focused.

This will require a number of institutions adopting it so please give  
it a go. It's being worked on heavily at the moment and you can track  
its progress via the Confluence space below:
http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/Profile2

We are also developing a number of complementary tools around the new  
features in Profile2.

As a side note, I've just added an integration between the status  
updates you can post in Profile2 and Twitter.


cheers,
Steve

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Portal Systems Developer
Centre for e-Science
Lancaster University
Lancaster
LA1 4YT

email: s.swinsburg@...
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On 6 Feb 2009, at 16:39, Adam Marshall wrote:

> How will profile 2 sit with sakai 3, will it be ported or will Sakai  
> 3 use the original profile tool?
>
> Will profile 2 replace the original profile in 2.7?
>
> We wouldn’t want to migrate and later regret our decision.
>
> Adam
>
> From: Steve Swinsburg [mailto:s.swinsburg@...]
> Sent: 04 February 2009 16:29
> To: sakai-dev Dev; Using Sakai Email List
> Subject: Profile2: Official release
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am very excited to announce that Profile2 v1.0 has been officially  
> released!
>
> Profile2 is a complete re-design and re-development of the existing  
> Profile tool in Sakai. It gives you more of a Facebook style  
> interface for editing your profile. In addition you have a  
> comprehensive set of Privacy controls to allow you to choose who can  
> see what part(s) of your Profile.
>
> With Profile2 you can post status updates, search for people by name  
> and common interests, view their profiles, view their friends, add  
> them as friends, and much more.
>
> Profile2 can be run seamlessly alongside the existing profile in  
> Sakai to allow you to evaluate both profile tools. If you've never  
> used the Profile tool in Sakai before, now is the time to start!
>
> View this space in Confluence for screenshots, instructions on where  
> to get the source, how to build it and how to configure it:
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/Profile2
>
> A migration utility is included which allows you to convert existing  
> Profiles into Profile2 profiles.
>
> Many more features are planned for future releases of Profile2, and  
> you can keep track of progress on both the Confluence space and in  
> Profile2's Jira space:
> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/PRFL
>
>
> If you have any comments or questions, please send them along.
>
>
> cheers,
> Steve
>
> ---
> Steve Swinsburg
> Portal Systems Developer
> Centre for e-Science
> Lancaster University
> Lancaster
> LA1 4YT
>
> email: s.swinsburg@...
> phone: [phone]
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[Michael Korcuska]

 From the outside Profile 2 looks good. To get it into 2.7 we'll need  
to see some evidence that its working in production settings, of  
course, and for schools to use it they will want to understand what,  
if any, functionality might have been lost.   And, of course, we'd  
want to know that more than a couple organizations are interested in  
this.  Even so, this is probably one of those cases where we would  
ship 2 profile tools with a release, one stealthed.

Michael

On Feb 6, 2009, at 17:58, Steve Swinsburg wrote:

> Hi Adam,
>
> I've had discussions with the K2 group about incorporating the  
> services of Profile2 into Sakai3 although the UI will be different  
> in Sakai3 (as will all others as well).
>
> I am hoping that Profile2 can be included in Sakai 2.7, as there are  
> heaps of new features that give it an edge and its much more Web 2.0  
> focused.
>
> This will require a number of institutions adopting it so please  
> give it a go. It's being worked on heavily at the moment and you can  
> track its progress via the Confluence space below:
> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/Profile2
>
> We are also developing a number of complementary tools around the  
> new features in Profile2.
>
> As a side note, I've just added an integration between the status  
> updates you can post in Profile2 and Twitter.
>
>
> cheers,
> Steve
>
> ---
> Steve Swinsburg
> Portal Systems Developer
> Centre for e-Science
> Lancaster University
> Lancaster
> LA1 4YT
>
> email: s.swinsburg@...
> phone: [phone]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6 Feb 2009, at 16:39, Adam Marshall wrote:
>
>> How will profile 2 sit with sakai 3, will it be ported or will  
>> Sakai 3 use the original profile tool?
>>
>> Will profile 2 replace the original profile in 2.7?
>>
>> We wouldn’t want to migrate and later regret our decision.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> From: Steve Swinsburg [mailto:s.swinsburg@...]
>> Sent: 04 February 2009 16:29
>> To: sakai-dev Dev; Using Sakai Email List
>> Subject: Profile2: Official release
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am very excited to announce that Profile2 v1.0 has been  
>> officially released!
>>
>> Profile2 is a complete re-design and re-development of the existing  
>> Profile tool in Sakai. It gives you more of a Facebook style  
>> interface for editing your profile. In addition you have a  
>> comprehensive set of Privacy controls to allow you to choose who  
>> can see what part(s) of your Profile.
>>
>> With Profile2 you can post status updates, search for people by  
>> name and common interests, view their profiles, view their friends,  
>> add them as friends, and much more.
>>
>> Profile2 can be run seamlessly alongside the existing profile in  
>> Sakai to allow you to evaluate both profile tools. If you've never  
>> used the Profile tool in Sakai before, now is the time to start!
>>
>> View this space in Confluence for screenshots, instructions on  
>> where to get the source, how to build it and how to configure it:
>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/ 
>> Profile2
>>
>> A migration utility is included which allows you to convert  
>> existing Profiles into Profile2 profiles.
>>
>> Many more features are planned for future releases of Profile2, and  
>> you can keep track of progress on both the Confluence space and in  
>> Profile2's Jira space:
>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/PRFL
>>
>>
>> If you have any comments or questions, please send them along.
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>> Steve
>>
>> ---
>> Steve Swinsburg
>> Portal Systems Developer
>> Centre for e-Science
>> Lancaster University
>> Lancaster
>> LA1 4YT
>>
>> email: s.swinsburg@...
>> phone: [phone]
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[Steve Swinsburg-2]

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the information. I'm currently in the process of enhancing  
the Profile2 API to provide 100% backwards compatibility with tools  
that currently use the existing Profile API (eg Roster). This will  
mean that any tool that makes use of the current Profile API, nothing  
needs to change at all, they will get it all for free. No  
functionality will be lost at all, on the contrary, much is to be  
gained (see the Profile2 Confluence space). I will announce when this  
work is complete (should be very soon).

If anyone has any tools that depend on the current Profile API I'd  
like to know about them so I can include them in my porting and  
testing schedule. Even if in contrib.

cheers,
Steve


On 08/02/2009, at 11:35 AM, Michael Korcuska wrote:

> From the outside Profile 2 looks good. To get it into 2.7 we'll need  
> to see some evidence that its working in production settings, of  
> course, and for schools to use it they will want to understand what,  
> if any, functionality might have been lost.   And, of course, we'd  
> want to know that more than a couple organizations are interested in  
> this.  Even so, this is probably one of those cases where we would  
> ship 2 profile tools with a release, one stealthed.
>
> Michael
>
> On Feb 6, 2009, at 17:58, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>
>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> I've had discussions with the K2 group about incorporating the  
>> services of Profile2 into Sakai3 although the UI will be different  
>> in Sakai3 (as will all others as well).
>>
>> I am hoping that Profile2 can be included in Sakai 2.7, as there  
>> are heaps of new features that give it an edge and its much more  
>> Web 2.0 focused.
>>
>> This will require a number of institutions adopting it so please  
>> give it a go. It's being worked on heavily at the moment and you  
>> can track its progress via the Confluence space below:
>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/ 
>> Profile2
>>
>> We are also developing a number of complementary tools around the  
>> new features in Profile2.
>>
>> As a side note, I've just added an integration between the status  
>> updates you can post in Profile2 and Twitter.
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>> Steve
>>
>> ---
>> Steve Swinsburg
>> Portal Systems Developer
>> Centre for e-Science
>> Lancaster University
>> Lancaster
>> LA1 4YT
>>
>> email: s.swinsburg@...
>> phone: [phone]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6 Feb 2009, at 16:39, Adam Marshall wrote:
>>
>>> How will profile 2 sit with sakai 3, will it be ported or will  
>>> Sakai 3 use the original profile tool?
>>>
>>> Will profile 2 replace the original profile in 2.7?
>>>
>>> We wouldn’t want to migrate and later regret our decision.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> From: Steve Swinsburg [mailto:s.swinsburg@...]
>>> Sent: 04 February 2009 16:29
>>> To: sakai-dev Dev; Using Sakai Email List
>>> Subject: Profile2: Official release
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I am very excited to announce that Profile2 v1.0 has been  
>>> officially released!
>>>
>>> Profile2 is a complete re-design and re-development of the  
>>> existing Profile tool in Sakai. It gives you more of a Facebook  
>>> style interface for editing your profile. In addition you have a  
>>> comprehensive set of Privacy controls to allow you to choose who  
>>> can see what part(s) of your Profile.
>>>
>>> With Profile2 you can post status updates, search for people by  
>>> name and common interests, view their profiles, view their  
>>> friends, add them as friends, and much more.
>>>
>>> Profile2 can be run seamlessly alongside the existing profile in  
>>> Sakai to allow you to evaluate both profile tools. If you've never  
>>> used the Profile tool in Sakai before, now is the time to start!
>>>
>>> View this space in Confluence for screenshots, instructions on  
>>> where to get the source, how to build it and how to configure it:
>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/Profile2
>>>
>>> A migration utility is included which allows you to convert  
>>> existing Profiles into Profile2 profiles.
>>>
>>> Many more features are planned for future releases of Profile2,  
>>> and you can keep track of progress on both the Confluence space  
>>> and in Profile2's Jira space:
>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/PRFL
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have any comments or questions, please send them along.
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Steve Swinsburg
>>> Portal Systems Developer
>>> Centre for e-Science
>>> Lancaster University
>>> Lancaster
>>> LA1 4YT
>>>
>>> email: s.swinsburg@...
>>> phone: [phone]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[Michael Korcuska]

You should look at this page for Provisional tool criteria:

http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/SCP/Criteria+for+Provisional+Status

It looks like you have a new SakaiPerson service as well.  New UI  
layers are one thing, but I'd feel better if we had a single  
underlying service. Is there a reason your changes to the service  
can't be merged into the existing one? Or am I misunderstanding?

Michael

On Feb 8, 2009, at 13:32, Stephen Swinsburg wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> Thanks for the information. I'm currently in the process of  
> enhancing the Profile2 API to provide 100% backwards compatibility  
> with tools that currently use the existing Profile API (eg Roster).  
> This will mean that any tool that makes use of the current Profile  
> API, nothing needs to change at all, they will get it all for free.  
> No functionality will be lost at all, on the contrary, much is to be  
> gained (see the Profile2 Confluence space). I will announce when  
> this work is complete (should be very soon).
>
> If anyone has any tools that depend on the current Profile API I'd  
> like to know about them so I can include them in my porting and  
> testing schedule. Even if in contrib.
>
> cheers,
> Steve
>
>
> On 08/02/2009, at 11:35 AM, Michael Korcuska wrote:
>
>> From the outside Profile 2 looks good. To get it into 2.7 we'll  
>> need to see some evidence that its working in production settings,  
>> of course, and for schools to use it they will want to understand  
>> what, if any, functionality might have been lost.   And, of course,  
>> we'd want to know that more than a couple organizations are  
>> interested in this.  Even so, this is probably one of those cases  
>> where we would ship 2 profile tools with a release, one stealthed.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2009, at 17:58, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Adam,
>>>
>>> I've had discussions with the K2 group about incorporating the  
>>> services of Profile2 into Sakai3 although the UI will be different  
>>> in Sakai3 (as will all others as well).
>>>
>>> I am hoping that Profile2 can be included in Sakai 2.7, as there  
>>> are heaps of new features that give it an edge and its much more  
>>> Web 2.0 focused.
>>>
>>> This will require a number of institutions adopting it so please  
>>> give it a go. It's being worked on heavily at the moment and you  
>>> can track its progress via the Confluence space below:
>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/Profile2
>>>
>>> We are also developing a number of complementary tools around the  
>>> new features in Profile2.
>>>
>>> As a side note, I've just added an integration between the status  
>>> updates you can post in Profile2 and Twitter.
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Steve Swinsburg
>>> Portal Systems Developer
>>> Centre for e-Science
>>> Lancaster University
>>> Lancaster
>>> LA1 4YT
>>>
>>> email: s.swinsburg@...
>>> phone: [phone]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6 Feb 2009, at 16:39, Adam Marshall wrote:
>>>
>>>> How will profile 2 sit with sakai 3, will it be ported or will  
>>>> Sakai 3 use the original profile tool?
>>>>
>>>> Will profile 2 replace the original profile in 2.7?
>>>>
>>>> We wouldn’t want to migrate and later regret our decision.
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>> From: Steve Swinsburg [mailto:s.swinsburg@...]
>>>> Sent: 04 February 2009 16:29
>>>> To: sakai-dev Dev; Using Sakai Email List
>>>> Subject: Profile2: Official release
>>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I am very excited to announce that Profile2 v1.0 has been  
>>>> officially released!
>>>>
>>>> Profile2 is a complete re-design and re-development of the  
>>>> existing Profile tool in Sakai. It gives you more of a Facebook  
>>>> style interface for editing your profile. In addition you have a  
>>>> comprehensive set of Privacy controls to allow you to choose who  
>>>> can see what part(s) of your Profile.
>>>>
>>>> With Profile2 you can post status updates, search for people by  
>>>> name and common interests, view their profiles, view their  
>>>> friends, add them as friends, and much more.
>>>>
>>>> Profile2 can be run seamlessly alongside the existing profile in  
>>>> Sakai to allow you to evaluate both profile tools. If you've  
>>>> never used the Profile tool in Sakai before, now is the time to  
>>>> start!
>>>>
>>>> View this space in Confluence for screenshots, instructions on  
>>>> where to get the source, how to build it and how to configure it:
>>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/Profile2
>>>>
>>>> A migration utility is included which allows you to convert  
>>>> existing Profiles into Profile2 profiles.
>>>>
>>>> Many more features are planned for future releases of Profile2,  
>>>> and you can keep track of progress on both the Confluence space  
>>>> and in Profile2's Jira space:
>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/PRFL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you have any comments or questions, please send them along.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Steve Swinsburg
>>>> Portal Systems Developer
>>>> Centre for e-Science
>>>> Lancaster University
>>>> Lancaster
>>>> LA1 4YT
>>>>
>>>> email: s.swinsburg@...
>>>> phone: [phone]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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[Steve Swinsburg-2]

Hi Michael,

The SakaiPerson service has just been extended to add a few more  
fields. It's fully backwards compatible. In addition, that service is  
contained in the current Profile tool so I wouldn't necessarily  
consider it a general Sakai service per se, more of an additional  
service that supports the Profile backend. As far as I can tel,  
nothing else except the Profile uses it. It didn't contain the  
required fields so I had to extend it.

In addition, I posted to the lists in September/October 2008 asking if  
anyone was using the Profile/SakaiPerson API's directly and if they  
could see any issue in my implementation details. I received a few  
responses but nothing that signified it would be an issue. The  
additions to SakaiPerson have been logged in a Jira ticket for some  
time now, I just haven't had a chance to commit them to trunk yet.  
Once that is done there will be no dependency on an updated  
SakaiPerson, except for people running older versions of Sakai.

Noting the requirements on the provisional tool list, Profile2 meets  
all of the Technical elements, all of the UI elements and with the  
compatibility work I am currently doing and soon to be released, all  
of the desirable elements as well. I built Profile2 with that  
requirement list in mind :)

cheers,
Steve


On 08/02/2009, at 12:53 PM, Michael Korcuska wrote:

> You should look at this page for Provisional tool criteria:
>
> http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/SCP/Criteria+for+Provisional+Status
>
> It looks like you have a new SakaiPerson service as well.  New UI  
> layers are one thing, but I'd feel better if we had a single  
> underlying service. Is there a reason your changes to the service  
> can't be merged into the existing one? Or am I misunderstanding?
>
> Michael
>
> On Feb 8, 2009, at 13:32, Stephen Swinsburg wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> Thanks for the information. I'm currently in the process of  
>> enhancing the Profile2 API to provide 100% backwards compatibility  
>> with tools that currently use the existing Profile API (eg Roster).  
>> This will mean that any tool that makes use of the current Profile  
>> API, nothing needs to change at all, they will get it all for free.  
>> No functionality will be lost at all, on the contrary, much is to  
>> be gained (see the Profile2 Confluence space). I will announce when  
>> this work is complete (should be very soon).
>>
>> If anyone has any tools that depend on the current Profile API I'd  
>> like to know about them so I can include them in my porting and  
>> testing schedule. Even if in contrib.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On 08/02/2009, at 11:35 AM, Michael Korcuska wrote:
>>
>>> From the outside Profile 2 looks good. To get it into 2.7 we'll  
>>> need to see some evidence that its working in production settings,  
>>> of course, and for schools to use it they will want to understand  
>>> what, if any, functionality might have been lost.   And, of  
>>> course, we'd want to know that more than a couple organizations  
>>> are interested in this.  Even so, this is probably one of those  
>>> cases where we would ship 2 profile tools with a release, one  
>>> stealthed.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2009, at 17:58, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>
>>>> I've had discussions with the K2 group about incorporating the  
>>>> services of Profile2 into Sakai3 although the UI will be  
>>>> different in Sakai3 (as will all others as well).
>>>>
>>>> I am hoping that Profile2 can be included in Sakai 2.7, as there  
>>>> are heaps of new features that give it an edge and its much more  
>>>> Web 2.0 focused.
>>>>
>>>> This will require a number of institutions adopting it so please  
>>>> give it a go. It's being worked on heavily at the moment and you  
>>>> can track its progress via the Confluence space below:
>>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/Profile2
>>>>
>>>> We are also developing a number of complementary tools around the  
>>>> new features in Profile2.
>>>>
>>>> As a side note, I've just added an integration between the status  
>>>> updates you can post in Profile2 and Twitter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Steve Swinsburg
>>>> Portal Systems Developer
>>>> Centre for e-Science
>>>> Lancaster University
>>>> Lancaster
>>>> LA1 4YT
>>>>
>>>> email: s.swinsburg@...
>>>> phone: [phone]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6 Feb 2009, at 16:39, Adam Marshall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How will profile 2 sit with sakai 3, will it be ported or will  
>>>>> Sakai 3 use the original profile tool?
>>>>>
>>>>> Will profile 2 replace the original profile in 2.7?
>>>>>
>>>>> We wouldn’t want to migrate and later regret our decision.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Steve Swinsburg [mailto:s.swinsburg@...]
>>>>> Sent: 04 February 2009 16:29
>>>>> To: sakai-dev Dev; Using Sakai Email List
>>>>> Subject: Profile2: Official release
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am very excited to announce that Profile2 v1.0 has been  
>>>>> officially released!
>>>>>
>>>>> Profile2 is a complete re-design and re-development of the  
>>>>> existing Profile tool in Sakai. It gives you more of a Facebook  
>>>>> style interface for editing your profile. In addition you have a  
>>>>> comprehensive set of Privacy controls to allow you to choose who  
>>>>> can see what part(s) of your Profile.
>>>>>
>>>>> With Profile2 you can post status updates, search for people by  
>>>>> name and common interests, view their profiles, view their  
>>>>> friends, add them as friends, and much more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Profile2 can be run seamlessly alongside the existing profile in  
>>>>> Sakai to allow you to evaluate both profile tools. If you've  
>>>>> never used the Profile tool in Sakai before, now is the time to  
>>>>> start!
>>>>>
>>>>> View this space in Confluence for screenshots, instructions on  
>>>>> where to get the source, how to build it and how to configure it:
>>>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/Profile2
>>>>>
>>>>> A migration utility is included which allows you to convert  
>>>>> existing Profiles into Profile2 profiles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many more features are planned for future releases of Profile2,  
>>>>> and you can keep track of progress on both the Confluence space  
>>>>> and in Profile2's Jira space:
>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/PRFL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have any comments or questions, please send them along.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Steve Swinsburg
>>>>> Portal Systems Developer
>>>>> Centre for e-Science
>>>>> Lancaster University
>>>>> Lancaster
>>>>> LA1 4YT
>>>>>
>>>>> email: s.swinsburg@...
>>>>> phone: [phone]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Thanks, Stephen.

On Feb 8, 2009, at 08:47, Stephen Swinsburg wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> The SakaiPerson service has just been extended to add a few more  
> fields. It's fully backwards compatible. In addition, that service  
> is contained in the current Profile tool so I wouldn't necessarily  
> consider it a general Sakai service per se, more of an additional  
> service that supports the Profile backend. As far as I can tel,  
> nothing else except the Profile uses it. It didn't contain the  
> required fields so I had to extend it.
>
> In addition, I posted to the lists in September/October 2008 asking  
> if anyone was using the Profile/SakaiPerson API's directly and if  
> they could see any issue in my implementation details. I received a  
> few responses but nothing that signified it would be an issue. The  
> additions to SakaiPerson have been logged in a Jira ticket for some  
> time now, I just haven't had a chance to commit them to trunk yet.  
> Once that is done there will be no dependency on an updated  
> SakaiPerson, except for people running older versions of Sakai.
>
> Noting the requirements on the provisional tool list, Profile2 meets  
> all of the Technical elements, all of the UI elements and with the  
> compatibility work I am currently doing and soon to be released, all  
> of the desirable elements as well. I built Profile2 with that  
> requirement list in mind :)
>
> cheers,
> Steve
>
>
> On 08/02/2009, at 12:53 PM, Michael Korcuska wrote:
>
>> You should look at this page for Provisional tool criteria:
>>
>> http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/SCP/Criteria+for+Provisional+Status
>>
>> It looks like you have a new SakaiPerson service as well.  New UI  
>> layers are one thing, but I'd feel better if we had a single  
>> underlying service. Is there a reason your changes to the service  
>> can't be merged into the existing one? Or am I misunderstanding?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2009, at 13:32, Stephen Swinsburg wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the information. I'm currently in the process of  
>>> enhancing the Profile2 API to provide 100% backwards compatibility  
>>> with tools that currently use the existing Profile API (eg  
>>> Roster). This will mean that any tool that makes use of the  
>>> current Profile API, nothing needs to change at all, they will get  
>>> it all for free. No functionality will be lost at all, on the  
>>> contrary, much is to be gained (see the Profile2 Confluence  
>>> space). I will announce when this work is complete (should be very  
>>> soon).
>>>
>>> If anyone has any tools that depend on the current Profile API I'd  
>>> like to know about them so I can include them in my porting and  
>>> testing schedule. Even if in contrib.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/02/2009, at 11:35 AM, Michael Korcuska wrote:
>>>
>>>> From the outside Profile 2 looks good. To get it into 2.7 we'll  
>>>> need to see some evidence that its working in production  
>>>> settings, of course, and for schools to use it they will want to  
>>>> understand what, if any, functionality might have been lost.    
>>>> And, of course, we'd want to know that more than a couple  
>>>> organizations are interested in this.  Even so, this is probably  
>>>> one of those cases where we would ship 2 profile tools with a  
>>>> release, one stealthed.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 6, 2009, at 17:58, Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had discussions with the K2 group about incorporating the  
>>>>> services of Profile2 into Sakai3 although the UI will be  
>>>>> different in Sakai3 (as will all others as well).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am hoping that Profile2 can be included in Sakai 2.7, as there  
>>>>> are heaps of new features that give it an edge and its much more  
>>>>> Web 2.0 focused.
>>>>>
>>>>> This will require a number of institutions adopting it so please  
>>>>> give it a go. It's being worked on heavily at the moment and you  
>>>>> can track its progress via the Confluence space below:
>>>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/Profile2
>>>>>
>>>>> We are also developing a number of complementary tools around  
>>>>> the new features in Profile2.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a side note, I've just added an integration between the  
>>>>> status updates you can post in Profile2 and Twitter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Steve Swinsburg
>>>>> Portal Systems Developer
>>>>> Centre for e-Science
>>>>> Lancaster University
>>>>> Lancaster
>>>>> LA1 4YT
>>>>>
>>>>> email: s.swinsburg@...
>>>>> phone: [phone]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 Feb 2009, at 16:39, Adam Marshall wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How will profile 2 sit with sakai 3, will it be ported or will  
>>>>>> Sakai 3 use the original profile tool?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will profile 2 replace the original profile in 2.7?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We wouldn’t want to migrate and later regret our decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Steve Swinsburg [mailto:s.swinsburg@...]
>>>>>> Sent: 04 February 2009 16:29
>>>>>> To: sakai-dev Dev; Using Sakai Email List
>>>>>> Subject: Profile2: Official release
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am very excited to announce that Profile2 v1.0 has been  
>>>>>> officially released!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Profile2 is a complete re-design and re-development of the  
>>>>>> existing Profile tool in Sakai. It gives you more of a Facebook  
>>>>>> style interface for editing your profile. In addition you have  
>>>>>> a comprehensive set of Privacy controls to allow you to choose  
>>>>>> who can see what part(s) of your Profile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With Profile2 you can post status updates, search for people by  
>>>>>> name and common interests, view their profiles, view their  
>>>>>> friends, add them as friends, and much more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Profile2 can be run seamlessly alongside the existing profile  
>>>>>> in Sakai to allow you to evaluate both profile tools. If you've  
>>>>>> never used the Profile tool in Sakai before, now is the time to  
>>>>>> start!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> View this space in Confluence for screenshots, instructions on  
>>>>>> where to get the source, how to build it and how to configure it:
>>>>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/PROFILE/Profile2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A migration utility is included which allows you to convert  
>>>>>> existing Profiles into Profile2 profiles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many more features are planned for future releases of Profile2,  
>>>>>> and you can keep track of progress on both the Confluence space  
>>>>>> and in Profile2's Jira space:
>>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/PRFL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have any comments or questions, please send them along.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Steve Swinsburg
>>>>>> Portal Systems Developer
>>>>>> Centre for e-Science
>>>>>> Lancaster University
>>>>>> Lancaster
>>>>>> LA1 4YT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> email: s.swinsburg@...
>>>>>> phone: [phone]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> phone: [phone]
>>>> mobile (US): [phone]
>>>> mobile (FR): [phone]
>>>> skype: mkorcuska
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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>> Executive Director, Sakai Foundation
>> mkorcuska@...
>> phone: [phone]
>> mobile (US): [phone]
>> mobile (FR): [phone]
>> skype: mkorcuska
>>
>>
>>
>

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