Questions about Quanta+ development

[saulotoledo]

Hello,

I'm new at this list and I'm trying find some responses about this development.

I work with Web development. In so many ways I need use proprietary software because there are no free alternatives to some things.
Quanta+ has a lot of items who made me stop using some proprietary tools, but not in all cases...

Some time ago, I migrated my Desktop from Gnome/KDE3 to KDE4 because a lot of things how, for example, improvements in SMB protocol support, in usability (some very little things makes me really win a lot of time at work and home in my works!) and so on. But something is missing in this all: Quanta+.

Ok ok, I can put Quanta+ from KDE3 to work here, but I got some library conflicts in some distributions and machines, and other problems. And see how many versions of some proprietary softwares already released since last version of Quanta+? Well, Quanta+ for KDE3 is going deprecated too... little by little...

In recent days I'm was thinking about this development, and was thinking I can help in some things with Quanta+, maybe usability, maybe extensions, maybe options. But I don't know nothing about Quanta+ development, and see how I can put some time to help too, and if I can really help. Then, I have some questions about:

- Quanta+ will be part of KDE4 main development or continue as independent project?
- How can I acess CVS code (KDE4 version)?
- There are ideas about when first version for KDE4 will be released?
- How many people working with his code today?
- How can I acess the GUI design and usability discussions about Quanta+?
- What the news at new version project?


I work with proprietary tools too, and I know what more I need I don't find on my open system. I hope hear good news here, and help a little too. :-)


Thanks for all, and waiting your responses.


Saulo Soares

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Hi,

yes, we need help! welcome :D

Quanta4 will be built on a common platform with KDevelop4 call
KDevPlatform. Basically
Quanta4 should be more or less KDevelop4 with a different
splash-screen and a different
set of default plugins.
Recently Quanta4 development stalled; but not so for KDevPlatform/KDevelop.
What works already pretty good is KDevelop + Php, more info here:
http://milianw.de/blog/building-kdevplatform-kdevelop-and-the-php-plugin-from-svn

> - Quanta+ will be part of KDE4 main development or continue as independent
> project?
we will see. Once there is something that can be released we think about that :D

> - How can I acess CVS code (KDE4 version)?
you find in the kde svn:
trunk/KDE/kdevplatform
trunk/KDE/kdevelop
trunk/KDE/kdewebdev/quanta (don't know if it's working atm)
trunk/playground/devtools/kdevelop4-extra-plugins/php

> - There are ideas about when first version for KDE4 will be released?
when it's ready :D

> - How many people working with his code today?
Milian and me are working on php langauge support.
Additionally I'm working on a xdebug plugin.
+ all the people contributing to kdevplatform

> - How can I acess the GUI design and usability discussions about Quanta+?
Perhaps Eric Laffoon (kdewebdev project leader) has something...
And you can start discussing here :D

> - What the news at new version project?
?


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[saulotoledo]

It's very good hear some news here! I'm glad to see it working!

> - How many people working with his code today?

Milian and me are working on php langauge support.
Additionally I'm working on a xdebug plugin.
+ all the people contributing to kdevplatform

I'm very little time at home, but I will try see the SVN code and see how it working.

 

> - How can I acess the GUI design and usability discussions about Quanta+?

Perhaps Eric Laffoon (kdewebdev project leader) has something...
And you can start discussing here :D

We will have visual editing support?
I would like to see the project design, maybe I can starting help by here with usability... I'm a little lost here, but will try compile the SVN code and see how it's working. :-)

 

> - What the news at new version project?

?

I refer to new things at program. New functions. Or will be only a KDE3 version rewrited?


Thanks for your info! :D

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On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 20:55, Saulo Soares de
Toledo<saulotoledo@...> wrote:
> It's very good hear some news here! I'm glad to see it working!
>
>> > - How many people working with his code today?
>> Milian and me are working on php langauge support.
>> Additionally I'm working on a xdebug plugin.
>> + all the people contributing to kdevplatform
>
> I'm very little time at home, but I will try see the SVN code and see how it
> working.
If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask here.

>>
>> > - How can I acess the GUI design and usability discussions about
>> > Quanta+?
>> Perhaps Eric Laffoon (kdewebdev project leader) has something...
>> And you can start discussing here :D
>
> We will have visual editing support?
> I would like to see the project design, maybe I can starting help by here
> with usability... I'm a little lost here, but will try compile the SVN code
> and see how it's working. :-)

No support for visual editing exists so far. Personally I don't have
any interest in this...

>>
>> > - What the news at new version project?
>> ?
>
> I refer to new things at program. New functions. Or will be only a KDE3
> version rewrited?
Look at it as a new application.
Many new features we inherit from kdevplatform (for example QuickOpen
is a killer feature that didn't exist in Quanta3).
If you are using Php there are tons of new features.

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[saulotoledo]

> We will have visual editing support?
> I would like to see the project design, maybe I can starting help by here
> with usability... I'm a little lost here, but will try compile the SVN code
> and see how it's working. :-)

No support for visual editing exists so far. Personally I don't have
any interest in this...

On Linux we need a graphical IDE to Web development. I work with web for some years, then I see how many time is lost to mount a sequence of websites without a good graphical IDE.

Applications like NVU and Komposer try do this, but with really bad generated code, and poor IDE. And the projects are discontinued...

See, on a little or medium Web company, we have all we need:
- Gimp
- Eclipse + plugins
- L-A-M-P
- Postgree
- Desktop Software

Except: a graphical IDE to HTML / CSS....

See how many contributors we can get if we can migrate their companies too...

Particulary I don't need this at time, I'm developer, but I can't migrate others machines here because proprietary IDEs give us about 60-70% more time with some production steps. On companies this is a percentage unquestionable... :-(

Aptana IDE (or it's plugin for eclipse) is the best CSS editor I already saw, better than all proprietary software I used, but...

Well, this is my initial comentary about the graphical editor. Not for this release, but IMO it's a good thing to think.

We have numbers, we have people who needs this, we have multiplatform support with KDE4 and we have a problem. What you think about this? :-)

> I refer to new things at program. New functions. Or will be only a KDE3
> version rewrited?

Look at it as a new application.
Many new features we inherit from kdevplatform (for example QuickOpen
is a killer feature that didn't exist in Quanta3).
If you are using Php there are tons of new features.

This is great!!! :-D
 

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On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 19:01, Saulo Soares de
Toledo<saulotoledo@...> wrote:

>> > We will have visual editing support?
>> > I would like to see the project design, maybe I can starting help by
>> > here
>> > with usability... I'm a little lost here, but will try compile the SVN
>> > code
>> > and see how it's working. :-)
>> No support for visual editing exists so far. Personally I don't have
>> any interest in this...
>
> On Linux we need a graphical IDE to Web development. I work with web for
> some years, then I see how many time is lost to mount a sequence of websites
> without a good graphical IDE.
>
> Applications like NVU and Komposer try do this, but with really bad
> generated code, and poor IDE. And the projects are discontinued...
>
> See, on a little or medium Web company, we have all we need:
> - Gimp
> - Eclipse + plugins
> - L-A-M-P
> - Postgree
> - Desktop Software
>
> Except: a graphical IDE to HTML / CSS....
>
> See how many contributors we can get if we can migrate their companies
> too...
>
> Particulary I don't need this at time, I'm developer, but I can't migrate
> others machines here because proprietary IDEs give us about 60-70% more time
> with some production steps. On companies this is a percentage
> unquestionable... :-(
>
> Aptana IDE (or it's plugin for eclipse) is the best CSS editor I already
> saw, better than all proprietary software I used, but...
>
> Well, this is my initial comentary about the graphical editor. Not for this
> release, but IMO it's a good thing to think.
>
> We have numbers, we have people who needs this, we have multiplatform

Sure - there would be users for visual html editing. Quanta3 even had it. If we
find developers implementing that - great!

I just said *I* won't work on that, others are free to do so of course. Good
visual editing that creates good HTML/CSS is very difficult, if not impossible.
(but that depends on how you define "good" code). Imho visual editing
should happen in an CMS.

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[saulotoledo]

(...)

> We have numbers, we have people who needs this, we have multiplatform

Sure - there would be users for visual html editing. Quanta3 even had it. If we
find developers implementing that - great!

Ok... What you think about call some Kompose developers to here. I know there are a good difference between GTK+2 and QT, but could be the first way, if interest them.

 

I just said *I* won't work on that, others are free to do so of course. Good
visual editing that creates good HTML/CSS is very difficult, if not impossible.
(but that depends on how you define "good" code).

If we get some developers for this I can talk here about the quality of the generated code. I know there are some things difficult, but the generated code don't need be exactily 100%, but be as good as some proprietary solutions.
 

Imho visual editing
should happen in an CMS.

I agree with you. Even the CSS code is generated in a template and hand by hand, without help of an IDE. But there are times when we need create HTML files for other uses beyond websites (or even for them too). And this generated files aren't to CMS... It's with this files (usually containing tables, their code isn't good to work on CMS directily and isn't all times we create them with CSS in a better way...) we get the worse and slow work where the lack of an IDE is bad...

How this work is common and almost impossible to do in time without an IDE, we are required to buy proprietary software... :-(



About yout PHP development: I am impatient to test your work, is really desired where I work for many developers! We will test it and put here a lot of information when the first Quanta release is done!


Thanks for your attention here.

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[saulotoledo]

I'm trying compile KDevelop here, but I receive this error:

[ 52%] Building CXX object debuggers/gdb/CMakeFiles/gdbtest.dir/unittests/gdbtest.o
/home/saulo/Desktop/kdevelop/kdevelop/debuggers/gdb/unittests/gdbtest.cpp:36:44: error: debugger/interfaces/stackmodel.h: File or directory not found
make[2]: ** [debuggers/gdb/CMakeFiles/gdbtest.dir/unittests/gdbtest.o] Error 1
make[1]: ** [debuggers/gdb/CMakeFiles/gdbtest.dir/all] Error 2
make: ** [all] Error 2


Can you help me with this?

2009/7/20 Saulo Soares de Toledo <saulotoledo@...>

(...)

> We have numbers, we have people who needs this, we have multiplatform

Sure - there would be users for visual html editing. Quanta3 even had it. If we
find developers implementing that - great!

Ok... What you think about call some Kompose developers to here. I know there are a good difference between GTK+2 and QT, but could be the first way, if interest them.

 

I just said *I* won't work on that, others are free to do so of course. Good
visual editing that creates good HTML/CSS is very difficult, if not impossible.
(but that depends on how you define "good" code).

If we get some developers for this I can talk here about the quality of the generated code. I know there are some things difficult, but the generated code don't need be exactily 100%, but be as good as some proprietary solutions.
 

Imho visual editing
should happen in an CMS.

I agree with you. Even the CSS code is generated in a template and hand by hand, without help of an IDE. But there are times when we need create HTML files for other uses beyond websites (or even for them too). And this generated files aren't to CMS... It's with this files (usually containing tables, their code isn't good to work on CMS directily and isn't all times we create them with CSS in a better way...) we get the worse and slow work where the lack of an IDE is bad...

How this work is common and almost impossible to do in time without an IDE, we are required to buy proprietary software... :-(



About yout PHP development: I am impatient to test your work, is really desired where I work for many developers! We will test it and put here a lot of information when the first Quanta release is done!


Thanks for your attention here.

Saulo

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On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 00:59, Saulo Soares de
Toledo<saulotoledo@...> wrote:

> I'm trying compile KDevelop here, but I receive this error:
>
> [ 52%] Building CXX object
> debuggers/gdb/CMakeFiles/gdbtest.dir/unittests/gdbtest.o
> /home/saulo/Desktop/kdevelop/kdevelop/debuggers/gdb/unittests/gdbtest.cpp:36:44:
> error: debugger/interfaces/stackmodel.h: File or directory not found
> make[2]: ** [debuggers/gdb/CMakeFiles/gdbtest.dir/unittests/gdbtest.o] Error
> 1
> make[1]: ** [debuggers/gdb/CMakeFiles/gdbtest.dir/all] Error 2
> make: ** [all] Error 2
>
>
> Can you help me with this?

fixed it, please update.
(please report such problems to kdevelop-devel, I guess not all
kdevelop devs read quanta-devel)

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[saulotoledo]

The first problem was solved, but I got another xD.CMake Error at lib/CMakeLists.txt:38 (kde4_add_ui_files):
  Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_ui_files".

I'm was thinking I'm was without some library or something like this...

To compile Quanta i need compile KDevplatForm and KDevelop, correct?

If I compile both in ~/kdevelop4. What I need do to compile Quanta in ~/quanta4? (I want compile them in /opt).
When trying compile Quanta (without KDevelop and KDevPlatform):

CMake Error at lib/CMakeLists.txt:38 (kde4_add_ui_files):
  Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_ui_files".

What I do now?

Saulo

2009/7/22 Niko Sams <niko.sams@...>

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 00:59, Saulo Soares de
Toledo<saulotoledo@...> wrote:
> I'm trying compile KDevelop here, but I receive this error:
>
> [ 52%] Building CXX object
> debuggers/gdb/CMakeFiles/gdbtest.dir/unittests/gdbtest.o
> /home/saulo/Desktop/kdevelop/kdevelop/debuggers/gdb/unittests/gdbtest.cpp:36:44:
> error: debugger/interfaces/stackmodel.h: File or directory not found
> make[2]: ** [debuggers/gdb/CMakeFiles/gdbtest.dir/unittests/gdbtest.o] Error
> 1
> make[1]: ** [debuggers/gdb/CMakeFiles/gdbtest.dir/all] Error 2
> make: ** [all] Error 2
>
>
> Can you help me with this?

fixed it, please update.
(please report such problems to kdevelop-devel, I guess not all
kdevelop devs read quanta-devel)

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On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 18:07, Saulo Soares de
Toledo<saulotoledo@...> wrote:
> The first problem was solved, but I got another xD.CMake Error at
> lib/CMakeLists.txt:38 (kde4_add_ui_files):
>   Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_ui_files".
>
> I'm was thinking I'm was without some library or something like this...
>
> To compile Quanta i need compile KDevplatForm and KDevelop, correct?
you only need kdevplatform. kdevlop won't harm however.

>
> If I compile both in ~/kdevelop4. What I need do to compile Quanta in
> ~/quanta4? (I want compile them in /opt).
> When trying compile Quanta (without KDevelop and KDevPlatform):
>
> CMake Error at lib/CMakeLists.txt:38 (kde4_add_ui_files):
>   Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_ui_files".
>
> What I do now?
>

I think you need to compile the whole kdewebdev, not just the quanta
subdirectory.

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[saulotoledo]

I compiled kdevplatform how usually:
cd (FOLDER_OF_SOURCES)
mkdir build
cd build
cmake ..
make
make install (or checkinstall....)

When trying do the same with Quanta, after kdevplatform installed:



CMake Error at lib/CMakeLists.txt:38 (kde4_add_ui_files):

  Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_ui_files".


CMake Warning (dev) in CMakeLists.txt:
  No cmake_minimum_required command is present.  A line of code such as

    cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 2.6)

  should be added at the top of the file.  The version specified may be lower
  if you wish to support older CMake versions for this project.  For more
  information run "cmake --help-policy CMP0000".
This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it.

-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!




More info:
# cmake --version
cmake version 2.6-patch 4

Debian SID



Saulo

2009/7/22 Niko Sams <niko.sams@...>

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 18:07, Saulo Soares de

Toledo<saulotoledo@...> wrote:

> The first problem was solved, but I got another xD.CMake Error at
> lib/CMakeLists.txt:38 (kde4_add_ui_files):
>   Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_ui_files".
>
> I'm was thinking I'm was without some library or something like this...
>
> To compile Quanta i need compile KDevplatForm and KDevelop, correct?

you only need kdevplatform. kdevlop won't harm however.

>
> If I compile both in ~/kdevelop4. What I need do to compile Quanta in
> ~/quanta4? (I want compile them in /opt).
> When trying compile Quanta (without KDevelop and KDevPlatform):
>
> CMake Error at lib/CMakeLists.txt:38 (kde4_add_ui_files):
>   Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_ui_files".
>
> What I do now?
>

I think you need to compile the whole kdewebdev, not just the quanta
subdirectory.

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> When trying do the same with Quanta, after kdevplatform installed:
don't do it for quanta, instead do it for the whole kdewebdev.

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When compiling kdewebdev:

[ 32%] Building CXX object kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/kxsldbgadaptor.o                                                                                         
Linking CXX shared module ../../lib/libkxsldbgpart.so                                                                                                                              
CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.o: In function `xsldbgThreadInit()':                                                                                          
/home/saulo/Desktop/kdevelop/kdewebdev/kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.cpp:90: undefined reference to `pthread_create'                                               
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status                                                                                                                                                
make[2]: ** [lib/libkxsldbgpart.so] Erro 1                                                                                                                                         
make[1]: ** [kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/all] Erro 2                                                                                                            
make: ** [all] Erro 2 

2009/7/23 Niko Sams <niko.sams@...>

> When trying do the same with Quanta, after kdevplatform installed:

don't do it for quanta, instead do it for the whole kdewebdev.

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I have no idea about kxsldbg, sorry.
But I know that you can disable it in cmake config (if you only need quanta)

Niko

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 18:05, Saulo Soares de
Toledo<saulotoledo@...> wrote:

> When compiling kdewebdev:
>
> [ 32%] Building CXX object
> kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/kxsldbgadaptor.o
> Linking CXX shared module
> ../../lib/libkxsldbgpart.so
> CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.o: In function
> `xsldbgThreadInit()':
> /home/saulo/Desktop/kdevelop/kdewebdev/kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.cpp:90:
> undefined reference to
> `pthread_create'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit
> status
> make[2]: ** [lib/libkxsldbgpart.so] Erro
> 1
> make[1]: ** [kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/all] Erro
> 2
> make: ** [all] Erro 2
>
> 2009/7/23 Niko Sams <niko.sams@...>
>>
>> > When trying do the same with Quanta, after kdevplatform installed:
>> don't do it for quanta, instead do it for the whole kdewebdev.
>>
>> Niko
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How can I do this?

2009/7/23 Niko Sams <niko.sams@...>

I have no idea about kxsldbg, sorry.
But I know that you can disable it in cmake config (if you only need quanta)

Niko

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 18:05, Saulo Soares de

Toledo<saulotoledo@...> wrote:

> When compiling kdewebdev:
>
> [ 32%] Building CXX object
> kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/kxsldbgadaptor.o
> Linking CXX shared module
> ../../lib/libkxsldbgpart.so
> CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.o: In function
> `xsldbgThreadInit()':
> /home/saulo/Desktop/kdevelop/kdewebdev/kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.cpp:90:
> undefined reference to
> `pthread_create'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit
> status
> make[2]: ** [lib/libkxsldbgpart.so] Erro
> 1
> make[1]: ** [kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/all] Erro
> 2
> make: ** [all] Erro 2
>
> 2009/7/23 Niko Sams <niko.sams@...>
>>
>> > When trying do the same with Quanta, after kdevplatform installed:
>> don't do it for quanta, instead do it for the whole kdewebdev.
>>
>> Niko
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Am Freitag, 24. Juli 2009 16:43:21 schrieb Saulo Soares de Toledo:
> How can I do this?

Locate CMakeLists.txt in the topdir of the kdewebdev tree and comment out the
line
"macro_optional_add_subdirectory(kxsldbg)"

Greetings,
Ingo

>
>
> 2009/7/23 Niko Sams <niko.sams@...>
>
> > I have no idea about kxsldbg, sorry.
> > But I know that you can disable it in cmake config (if you only need
> > quanta)
> >
> > Niko
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 18:05, Saulo Soares de
> >
> > Toledo<saulotoledo@...> wrote:
> > > When compiling kdewebdev:
> > >
> > > [ 32%] Building CXX object
> > > kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/kxsldbgadaptor.o
> > > Linking CXX shared module
> > > ../../lib/libkxsldbgpart.so
> > > CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.o: In function
> > > `xsldbgThreadInit()':
> >
> >

/home/saulo/Desktop/kdevelop/kdewebdev/kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.cpp:90:

> > > undefined reference to
> > > `pthread_create'
> > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit
> > > status
> > > make[2]: ** [lib/libkxsldbgpart.so] Erro
> > > 1
> > > make[1]: ** [kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/all] Erro
> > > 2
> > > make: ** [all] Erro 2
> > >
> > > 2009/7/23 Niko Sams <niko.sams@...>
> > >
> > >> > When trying do the same with Quanta, after kdevplatform installed:
> > >>
> > >> don't do it for quanta, instead do it for the whole kdewebdev.
> > >>
> > >> Niko
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> quanta-devel mailing list
> > >> quanta-devel@...
> > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/quanta-devel
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > quanta-devel mailing list
> > > quanta-devel@...
> > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/quanta-devel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > quanta-devel mailing list
> > quanta-devel@...
> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/quanta-devel

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[saulotoledo]

Worked, but now:

[ 82%] Building CXX object quanta/plugins/kxsldbg/CMakeFiles/kdevkxsldbg.dir/__/__/__/kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/qxsldbgdoc.o
Linking CXX shared module ../../../lib/libkdevkxsldbg.so
CMakeFiles/kdevkxsldbg.dir/__/__/__/kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.o: In function `xsldbgThreadInit()':
/home/saulo/Desktop/kdevelop/kdewebdev/kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.cpp:90: undefined reference to `pthread_create'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: ** [lib/libkdevkxsldbg.so] Erro 1
make[1]: ** [quanta/plugins/kxsldbg/CMakeFiles/kdevkxsldbg.dir/all] Erro 2
make: ** [all] Erro 2

2009/7/24 Ingo Malchow <ingomalchow@...>

Am Freitag, 24. Juli 2009 16:43:21 schrieb Saulo Soares de Toledo:

> How can I do this?

Locate CMakeLists.txt in the topdir of the kdewebdev tree and comment out the
line
"macro_optional_add_subdirectory(kxsldbg)"

Greetings,
Ingo

>
>
> 2009/7/23 Niko Sams <niko.sams@...>
>
> > I have no idea about kxsldbg, sorry.
> > But I know that you can disable it in cmake config (if you only need
> > quanta)
> >
> > Niko
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 18:05, Saulo Soares de
> >
> > Toledo<saulotoledo@...> wrote:
> > > When compiling kdewebdev:
> > >
> > > [ 32%] Building CXX object
> > > kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/kxsldbgadaptor.o
> > > Linking CXX shared module
> > > ../../lib/libkxsldbgpart.so
> > > CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.o: In function
> > > `xsldbgThreadInit()':
> >
> >
/home/saulo/Desktop/kdevelop/kdewebdev/kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.cpp:90:
> > > undefined reference to
> > > `pthread_create'
> > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit
> > > status
> > > make[2]: ** [lib/libkxsldbgpart.so] Erro
> > > 1
> > > make[1]: ** [kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/all] Erro
> > > 2
> > > make: ** [all] Erro 2
> > >
> > > 2009/7/23 Niko Sams <niko.sams@...>
> > >
> > >> > When trying do the same with Quanta, after kdevplatform installed:
> > >>
> > >> don't do it for quanta, instead do it for the whole kdewebdev.
> > >>
> > >> Niko
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> quanta-devel mailing list
> > >> quanta-devel@...
> > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/quanta-devel
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > quanta-devel mailing list
> > > quanta-devel@...
> > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/quanta-devel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > quanta-devel mailing list
> > quanta-devel@...
> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/quanta-devel

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Solved! I removed the plugin from CMakeLists.txt file inside Quanta directory. Thanks for support.

Quanta is working here, I will start with it. :-)

2009/7/24 Saulo Soares de Toledo <saulotoledo@...>

Worked, but now:

[ 82%] Building CXX object quanta/plugins/kxsldbg/CMakeFiles/kdevkxsldbg.dir/__/__/__/kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/qxsldbgdoc.o
Linking CXX shared module ../../../lib/libkdevkxsldbg.so
CMakeFiles/kdevkxsldbg.dir/__/__/__/kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.o: In function `xsldbgThreadInit()':

/home/saulo/Desktop/kdevelop/kdewebdev/kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.cpp:90: undefined reference to `pthread_create'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

make[2]: ** [lib/libkdevkxsldbg.so] Erro 1
make[1]: ** [quanta/plugins/kxsldbg/CMakeFiles/kdevkxsldbg.dir/all] Erro 2
make: ** [all] Erro 2

2009/7/24 Ingo Malchow <ingomalchow@...>

Am Freitag, 24. Juli 2009 16:43:21 schrieb Saulo Soares de Toledo:

> How can I do this?

Locate CMakeLists.txt in the topdir of the kdewebdev tree and comment out the
line
"macro_optional_add_subdirectory(kxsldbg)"

Greetings,
Ingo

>
>
> 2009/7/23 Niko Sams <niko.sams@...>
>
> > I have no idea about kxsldbg, sorry.
> > But I know that you can disable it in cmake config (if you only need
> > quanta)
> >
> > Niko
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 18:05, Saulo Soares de
> >
> > Toledo<saulotoledo@...> wrote:
> > > When compiling kdewebdev:
> > >
> > > [ 32%] Building CXX object
> > > kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/kxsldbgadaptor.o
> > > Linking CXX shared module
> > > ../../lib/libkxsldbgpart.so
> > > CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.o: In function
> > > `xsldbgThreadInit()':
> >
> >
/home/saulo/Desktop/kdevelop/kdewebdev/kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/libqtnotfier/xsldbgthread.cpp:90:
> > > undefined reference to
> > > `pthread_create'
> > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit
> > > status
> > > make[2]: ** [lib/libkxsldbgpart.so] Erro
> > > 1
> > > make[1]: ** [kxsldbg/kxsldbgpart/CMakeFiles/kxsldbgpart.dir/all] Erro
> > > 2
> > > make: ** [all] Erro 2
> > >
> > > 2009/7/23 Niko Sams <niko.sams@...>
> > >
> > >> > When trying do the same with Quanta, after kdevplatform installed:
> > >>
> > >> don't do it for quanta, instead do it for the whole kdewebdev.
> > >>
> > >> Niko
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> quanta-devel mailing list
> > >> quanta-devel@...
> > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/quanta-devel
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > quanta-devel mailing list
> > > quanta-devel@...
> > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/quanta-devel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > quanta-devel mailing list
> > quanta-devel@...
> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/quanta-devel

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[saulotoledo]

Hello again :)

It's good see Quanta development working.I want to congratulate the developers that have participated in this brilliant service!

Anyway, I have some to talk about  Actual Quanta+ stage. Please, read these considerations carefully, I hope they help in something.


I will start with the more simple and maybe useless for now. The File Menu could be have
    - Save to Remove Server (Open an FTP lib to save remotely, could be implemented in future)

The Edit Menu:
    - Select Parent Tag
    - Select Child
    - Insert Special Character (maybe here isn't the best place... but the option can be useful)

The View Menu:
    - Hide All Panels / Show All Panels
    - Zoom In/Zoom Out (see the comment below)
    - Code view / Preview View / Code and preview view (see the comment below)

Here I start my questions about graphic mode on Quanta. How web development application, have an integrated preview window it's useful. Open the browser all the times I change some code to preview it's annoying (not so much while coding in PHP, JSP etc, but editing HTML code...). I think Quanta could have a flap only to preview the resulf of the code using gecko (isn't it used in Konqueror too?). Gecko already have zoom in/out utility (Control + mouse whell) and could appear here on Quanta only to preview the results. And when we have developers to graphical edit we could think in try this too... It's difficult put Gecko how a "Tool View" to preview the files for this release?

I am pleased to see the IDE, but with one thing I am disappointed: Where are the web authoring tools? The table insert windows, the HTML DTD change utility, the link manager... well, where is all web code?

I agree all this need be rewrited. some things were slightly polluted on old Quanta, and the dialogs could be better and practical, but I don't saw nothing on Quanta menus in this idea... I think Quanta is a web authoring tool, and not only more one IDE to some language, and it's because this I miss these things... :-(

Ah! And more! We have a lot of AJAX libraries who could be used to create a "Behavior Tool View" in Quanta! This libraries are free software and his use is great! And we have code to draw a behavior tool here.

I have a lot of other considerations to do, and ideas to share, but I think for now It's enough. For now, I want remove these doubts to try help in something more. :-)

Next, I want talk about toolbars and icons.


Thanks for attention, I await your responses.

Saulo Soares

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