RE: Digest Number 2439

[Hagar, Jon D]

Lisa wrote:

Google Mark Paulk, he has written in the past about Agile (or XP) and CMMI.

There's nothing incompatible between agile and any of the quality models.
Lisa is right.  I have worked at places that were both some flavor of Agile and CMMI level 3 (independently assessed).  There may be a little more documentation needed, but since it is "used" and adds value as defined by the customer (whomever want CMMI and is willing to pay for it), it is "okay".   One does need to watch adding to much weight, but that should be true all the time, and remember that the Agile manifest does not say no process or documentation.

[Matthew-103]

--- In agile-testing@..., "Hagar, Jon D" <jon.d.hagar@...> wrote:
>
> ... Lisa is right.  I have worked at places that were
> both some flavor of Agile and CMMI level 3 (independently
> assessed).  
>

The CMMI is a bunch of words.  Of course you can 'do' it, for some definition of 'do'. You might have to in order to win a contract.  I'm saying as a process improvement framework, it's an oxymoron.

I grant that you /can/ get /some/ value out of /some/ aspects of the CMMI.  I would add that if you're advanced enough to be able to pull this value out, you don't need the models: Just read Jerry Weinberg's Quality Software Management: Volume I and get to it.


--heusser