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It does indeed (we use it).
You're probably thinking of Protection Manager which doesn't yet.
-----Original Message-----
From: Webster, Stetson [mailto:Stetson.Webster@...]
Sent: 02 June 2009 14:24
To: Jack Lyons; Darren Sykes
Cc: steve klise; toasters@...
Subject: RE: ESX volume design question
SMVI supports NFS.
Stetson M. Webster
Professional Services Consultant
NCIE-SAN, NCIE-B&R, SNIA-SCSN-E
NetApp Global Services - Southeast District
919.250.0052 Mobile
Stetson.Webster@...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Lyons [mailto:jack1729@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:08 AM
To: Darren Sykes
Cc: steve klise; toasters@...
Subject: Re: ESX volume design question
He mentioned that he is running smvi - I am not sure smvi supports nfs
yet.....but highly recommend nfs on NetApp for VMWare make sure you read
the latest TR from NetApp about optimal configuration of VMWare on
NetApp - also make sure you upgrade to ESX 3.5U3 or later.
Darren Sykes wrote:
> Have you considered using NFS rather than FC?
>
> It would allow you to have larger volumes (as you're not constrained
by
> the same VM/datastore limit due to ESX locking on block based devices)
> and you'll therefore no longer need fractional reserve and will get
> better dedup savings?
>
> If that's not a possibility, you'll have to consider whether 20 VM's
per
> datastore is ideal; When I last used FC, best practice was less than
> that.
>
> Darren
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-toasters@...
[mailto:owner-toasters@...]
> On Behalf Of steve klise
> Sent: 01 June 2009 21:39
> To: toasters@...
> Subject: ESX volume design question
>
>
> What would you do?
> ESX 3.5 running all windows servers; FCP with all fiber drives
> We have an existing 6030 with 1 aggr, 1 large volume with ~5 LUNS
500GB
> a
> piece; running DOT 7.24. (upgrading soon, so no dedupe running yet).
We
> have a new HA 6040 (PAM cards) =). The existing volume on the 6030 is
> still
> at 100 percent fractional reserve.
>
> We have SMVI running in our test environment, but not in prod yet.
> We wanted to snapmirror from the 6030 to the 6040 and visa versa. The
> 6040
> is running 7.3.1.1 so I can only go from the 6030 to the 6040 for now.
> No
> vmware on the 6040 yet.
> Question:
> I have 3 shelves each for each head (6 300gb total for the 6040) and 1
> big
> aggr on the 6030, 11.5TB agr 4.97used in the volume on the 6030.
>
> I was thinking of having the volumes for the 6040 @ 750GB and 1 LUN.I
> am
> averaging ~20 windows boxes. I figured when SMVI runs, it is only 1
> snapmirror update vs running the job with allt he LUNS in 1 big aggr
and
> multiple snapmirrors happening. I will make the fractional reserve
set
> to
> 50% on the 6040 with thin provisioning at the LUN level, and dedupe.
>
> Pros:
> I think its more granular. Having to find a location for 6TB is a bit
> difficult
>
> Con:
> Not as much dedupe by having all VM's in 1 volume.
>
> Thoughts, experiences, gotchas.?
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Webster, Stetson [mailto:Stetson.Webster@...]
Sent: 02 June 2009 14:24
To: Jack Lyons; Darren Sykes
Cc: steve klise; toasters@...
Subject: RE: ESX volume design question
SMVI supports NFS.
Stetson M. Webster
Professional Services Consultant
NCIE-SAN, NCIE-B&R, SNIA-SCSN-E
NetApp Global Services - Southeast District
919.250.0052 Mobile
Stetson.Webster@...
Learn how: netapp.com/guarantee
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Lyons [mailto:jack1729@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:08 AM
To: Darren Sykes
Cc: steve klise; toasters@...
Subject: Re: ESX volume design question
He mentioned that he is running smvi - I am not sure smvi supports nfs
yet.....but highly recommend nfs on NetApp for VMWare make sure you read
the latest TR from NetApp about optimal configuration of VMWare on
NetApp - also make sure you upgrade to ESX 3.5U3 or later.
Darren Sykes wrote:
> Have you considered using NFS rather than FC?
>
> It would allow you to have larger volumes (as you're not constrained
by
> the same VM/datastore limit due to ESX locking on block based devices)
> and you'll therefore no longer need fractional reserve and will get
> better dedup savings?
>
> If that's not a possibility, you'll have to consider whether 20 VM's
per
> datastore is ideal; When I last used FC, best practice was less than
> that.
>
> Darren
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-toasters@...
[mailto:owner-toasters@...]
> On Behalf Of steve klise
> Sent: 01 June 2009 21:39
> To: toasters@...
> Subject: ESX volume design question
>
>
> What would you do?
> ESX 3.5 running all windows servers; FCP with all fiber drives
> We have an existing 6030 with 1 aggr, 1 large volume with ~5 LUNS
500GB
> a
> piece; running DOT 7.24. (upgrading soon, so no dedupe running yet).
We
> have a new HA 6040 (PAM cards) =). The existing volume on the 6030 is
> still
> at 100 percent fractional reserve.
>
> We have SMVI running in our test environment, but not in prod yet.
> We wanted to snapmirror from the 6030 to the 6040 and visa versa. The
> 6040
> is running 7.3.1.1 so I can only go from the 6030 to the 6040 for now.
> No
> vmware on the 6040 yet.
> Question:
> I have 3 shelves each for each head (6 300gb total for the 6040) and 1
> big
> aggr on the 6030, 11.5TB agr 4.97used in the volume on the 6030.
>
> I was thinking of having the volumes for the 6040 @ 750GB and 1 LUN.
> am
> averaging ~20 windows boxes. I figured when SMVI runs, it is only 1
> snapmirror update vs running the job with allt he LUNS in 1 big aggr
and
> multiple snapmirrors happening. I will make the fractional reserve
set
> to
> 50% on the 6040 with thin provisioning at the LUN level, and dedupe.
>
> Pros:
> I think its more granular. Having to find a location for 6TB is a bit
> difficult
>
> Con:
> Not as much dedupe by having all VM's in 1 volume.
>
> Thoughts, experiences, gotchas.?
>
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