RE: Glossary sorting in Japanese

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Akagi K [mailto:akobayashi@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:59 AM
> To: docbook-apps@...
> Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] Glossary sorting in Japanese
>
>
> Thanks David for giving me the details.  I amended the
> glossary.xsl as you said (and nothing else) and it sorted the
> glossary terms according to their sortas attribute set in
> Hiragana. Wonderful!
>
> FYI, the Katakana terms without the sortas values are sorted
> to appear before any of the terms with the Hiragana sortas values.
>
> Which version of docbook_xsl will the debugged glossary.xsl be in?
> We are using docbook_xsl_1.72.0 and for the moment we may
> just replace the glossary.xsl.
>
> Many Thanks also to Jirka for enabling this in the first place.
> Akagi
>
>
> David Cramer (Tech Pubs) wrote:
> >
> > Actually, the glossentry element already takes a sortas attribute:
> > http://docbook.org/tdg/en/html/glossentry.html
> > but it appears that the xsls aren't currently using it. You
> should be
> > able add the Hiragana or Katanakana versions to the sortas on the
> > glossentry and then do this in the templates from
> glossary.xsl in your
> > customization layer (using the same concat trick from
> > autoidx-kosek.xsl and autoidx-kimber.xsl):
> >
> > <xsl:sort lang="{$language}" select="translate(concat(@sortas,
> > glossterm[not(parent::glossentry/@sortas) or
> > parent::glossentry/@sortas = '']), &lowercase;, &uppercase;)"/>
> >
> > Instead of the current:
> >
> > <xsl:sort lang="{$language}" select="translate(glossterm,
> &lowercase;,
> > &uppercase;)"/>
> >
> > This line appears more than once, so change them all. This
> is a bug in
> > the xsls, so please log it at sourceforge if it's not there
> already. I
> > would love to see the kosek and kimber approaches applied to the
> > glossary too for grouping glossterms into glossdivs in the same way
> > indexterms are automatically grouped into indexdivs.
> >
> >
> > Also, I'm surprised by the need to translate all the
> characters to the
> > same case. Is that really required?
> >
> > David
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Akagi K [mailto:akobayashi@...]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:10 PM
> >> To: docbook-apps@...
> >> Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Glossary sorting in Japanese
> >>
> >>
> >> Further to the glossary sorting issue in Japanese, we are
> using the
> >> id for glossentry and notice that they DO GET SORTED, but in an
> >> arbitrary manner.
> >> Is this a fluke, or is there some sort order that is
> influencing it?
> >> What might that be, so that I can edit it?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Akagi
> >>
> >>
> >> Jirka Kosek wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Akagi Kobayashi wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The Kosek method can be used successfully to sort Hiragana and
> >> >> Katanakana characters (I'm sure). I have added those after the
> >> >> alphabet to the sort list. Attaching the test xml fyi.
> >> >
> >> > I haven't received file, but I would be happy to add it
> >> into standard
> >> > distribution. You can send it to me off-list.
> >> >
> >> >> Before I look into the Kimber method - I have an idea
> for sorting
> >> >> words in kanji.
> >> >>
> >> >> Could you tell me whether using the glossentry id= link
> >> might work?
> >> >> This is explained in Chapter 16 - Linking to a glossary entry
> >> >> http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/LinkToGlossary.html
> >> >> So the kanji word will be set as the glossterm; and its
> reading in
> >> >> hiragana will be set as the glossentry id.
> >> >
> >> > You can do this, but stylesheets doesn't support sorting of
> >> glossterms
> >> > based on id values, so you will have to customize stylesheets.
> >> >
> >> > I think that adding sortas attribute to glossterm is the
> >> right solution.
> >> > If time permits we will discuss this request during today's
> >> DocBook TC
> >> > meeting.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
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