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RE: RTI: sound advise needed

by LESLIE ALMEIDA :: Rate this Message:

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I had seven 2nd appeal hearings before SIC mumbai shri Suresh Joshi
the order passed: "Decision to be taken" all over a year now, also
some complains u/s 18 over a year now,many tell me to put forth same to Governor C.J.Jamil , but i wonder if that will help, will Governor intervein or will he put it in the back Burner, what is the Governors Role in such a situation can he sack the SIC, your urgent advise would be much appreciated.

3 appeals i attended in May 2009 upto date order not passed by Suresh Joshi, his secretary tells me that it will be decided as there is some court matter?

 3 orders passed by Ramanand Thiwari
penality of Rs 5000 x 3 = 15000,imposed, the PIO has not paid up, in fact he now claims that he was not the PIO but his junior was the PIO, his junior does not know to read and understand a english worded RTI application. where does the buck stop?

SIC;s are making a downright mockery of the RTI act?
after wasting so much of time and money is this what the applicant should get in return? if i demonstrate or go and confrunt Suresh Joshi surely he will call the Police and put me in on some false charges, this is his  way of operation. upto date no penality imposed on any PIO of Police force for not providing information or giving vague replies? its like you scratch my back and i'll scratch yours,today most PIO's are not scared of the RTI act
as they know too well that they can get away some way or another.
what can a common man do? most just give up saying RTI bhakwas hai

Leslie Almeida








 


     

Re: RE: RTI: sound advise needed

by Jitendra P. Shah :: Rate this Message:

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Why not file another RTI application to know fate and action taken report on long pending appeals/complaints. 


J. P. Shah Junagadh-Gujarat 09924106490
MY BLOG: www.jps50.blogspot.com 

--- On Sun, 1/11/09, LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2000@...> wrote:


From: LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2000@...>
Subject: [rti_india] RE: RTI: sound advise needed
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Date: Sunday, 1 November, 2009, 12:12 PM


 



I had seven 2nd appeal hearings before SIC mumbai shri Suresh Joshi
the order passed: "Decision to be taken" all over a year now, also
some complains u/s 18 over a year now,many tell me to put forth same to Governor C.J.Jamil , but i wonder if that will help, will Governor intervein or will he put it in the back Burner, what is the Governors Role in such a situation can he sack the SIC, your urgent advise would be much appreciated.

3 appeals i attended in May 2009 upto date order not passed by Suresh Joshi, his secretary tells me that it will be decided as there is some court matter?

3 orders passed by Ramanand Thiwari
penality of Rs 5000 x 3 = 15000,imposed, the PIO has not paid up, in fact he now claims that he was not the PIO but his junior was the PIO, his junior does not know to read and understand a english worded RTI application. where does the buck stop?

SIC;s are making a downright mockery of the RTI act?
after wasting so much of time and money is this what the applicant should get in return? if i demonstrate or go and confrunt Suresh Joshi surely he will call the Police and put me in on some false charges, this is his way of operation. upto date no penality imposed on any PIO of Police force for not providing information or giving vague replies? its like you scratch my back and i'll scratch yours,today most PIO's are not scared of the RTI act
as they know too well that they can get away some way or another.
what can a common man do? most just give up saying RTI bhakwas hai

Leslie Almeida

















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Re: RE: RTI: sound advise needed

by sroy1947 :: Rate this Message:

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Dear Leslie,

I am sure this must be very painful for you, but please change your
approach to RTI.

1) Never ask for information which you badly require in RTI process.

2) Use RTI as a cheap means of entertainment / hobby. Rs.10 is much cheaper than
buying a cinema ticket. You must enjoy your RTI. The biggest kick I
get from RTI is
knowing that corrupt Information Commissioners cannot look me straight
in the eyes
when they pass their corrupt orders - because they know that I know.

3) When you file an RTI do not be bothered by the consequences or get
affected by the
results (or non-results) of your RTI. Its your duty just do it and
dont be bothered !!! When
you stop enjoying RTI or helping others you must stop RTI-ing.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:42 PM, LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2000@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> I had seven 2nd appeal hearings before SIC mumbai shri Suresh Joshi
> the order passed: "Decision to be taken" all over a year now, also
> some complains u/s 18 over a year now,many tell me to put forth same to Governor C.J.Jamil , but i wonder if that will help, will Governor intervein or will he put it in the back Burner, what is the Governors Role in such a situation can he sack the SIC, your urgent advise would be much appreciated.
>
> 3 appeals i attended in May 2009 upto date order not passed by Suresh Joshi, his secretary tells me that it will be decided as there is some court matter?
>
> 3 orders passed by Ramanand Thiwari
> penality of Rs 5000 x 3 = 15000,imposed, the PIO has not paid up, in fact he now claims that he was not the PIO but his junior was the PIO, his junior does not know to read and understand a english worded RTI application. where does the buck stop?
>
> SIC;s are making a downright mockery of the RTI act?
> after wasting so much of time and money is this what the applicant should get in return? if i demonstrate or go and confrunt Suresh Joshi surely he will call the Police and put me in on some false charges, this is his way of operation. upto date no penality imposed on any PIO of Police force for not providing information or giving vague replies? its like you scratch my back and i'll scratch yours,today most PIO's are not scared of the RTI act
> as they know too well that they can get away some way or another.
> what can a common man do? most just give up saying RTI bhakwas hai
>
> Leslie Almeida
>