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RE: Samba Netlogon 128bitPlease excuse the interruption of your day to this massive list but I have a technical follow-up to the posting below. My question is in which distribution available currently or planned could our mutual customer use that would support 138bit encryption for net logon to establish a secure channel for Samba servers that are a member of a windows 2008 domain. Note as below posted on the Samba support webpages below Windows Domain must downgrade to NT Crypto (<128bit) in order to allow Samba servers to join a domain. Please note in the Federal Practice which I serve, DISA and NIST prohibit this so the Microsoft recommended solution is to upgrade Samba to a version that meets this requirement. Since this request come to us frequently as all federal agencies scramble to meet these requirements, I would like to Document which version meet this requirement. Thanks in advance for your time and consideration of this request. On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 13:21 -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 01:16:36PM -0800, Matt Geddes wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2008 12:59 PM, Jeremy Allison <jra at samba.org<https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba-technical>> wrote: > > > > > This looks good to me. I'm forward porting to 3.2.x and > > > Jerry has promised to test (I'm in OOXML-hell right now :-). > > > > No problems. Apologies for it being against an older sourcebase, but > > the patch should apply pretty cleanly to 3.2.x. > > > > Incidentally, looking at the neg_flags vs 2K8 problems that have been > > floating around, there's a new registry entry in Windows 2008 Server > > that causes lsass.exe to skip the check it does for > > NETLOGON_NEG_128BIT. Set the following to a non-zero value on the DCs > > and stop/start netlogon and you can join NT 4 and Samba 3 without any > > of those pesky NetrServerAuthenticate2-returning-0xc0000388 problems: > > > > HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netlogon\Parameters\AllowNT4Crypto > > > > It's a 32-bit DWORD. > > Thanks for that, but we'll just ensure we do the 128bit crypto :-). It's still probably worth documenting for people that have to use older versions of samba for a while. Thanks Matt. Yep. For those early adopters that'll install 2K8 when released, but still use some distro-packaged version of Samba from 18 months ago. Simo. Do you have enough info to document it, or is there something more I can grab for you? Did you want me to scribble something down or create a .reg file or something? thx, Matt It would be useful if you had time to create a patch against our docs, that state what we discussed, including the fact this will be fixed and unnecessary for 3.2.x Simo. -- Simo Sorce Samba Team GPL Compliance Officer <simo at samba.org<https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba-technical>> Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat Inc. <ssorce at redhat.com<https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba-technical>> Simo Sorce Samba Team GPL Compliance Officer <simo at samba.org<https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba-technical>> Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat Inc. <ssorce at redhat.com<https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba-technical>> Ben Christenbury MICROSOFT DSE Federal Civilian Enterprise Services This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Microsoft proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to Microsoft Corporation. This E-mail is intended solely for the internal use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout. |
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RE: Samba Netlogon 128bitPlease answer directly as I am not on the alias, as I found the posting by accident ands this is time critical.
From: Ben Christenbury (FEDERAL) Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:01 AM To: 'samba-technical@....' Cc: Ben Christenbury (FEDERAL) Subject: RE: Samba Netlogon 128bit Please excuse the interruption of your day to this massive list but I have a technical follow-up to the posting below. My question is in which distribution available currently or planned could our mutual customer use that would support 138bit encryption for net logon to establish a secure channel for Samba servers that are a member of a windows 2008 domain. Note as below posted on the Samba support webpages below Windows Domain must downgrade to NT Crypto (<128bit) in order to allow Samba servers to join a domain. Please note in the Federal Practice which I serve, DISA and NIST prohibit this so the Microsoft recommended solution is to upgrade Samba to a version that meets this requirement. Since this request come to us frequently as all federal agencies scramble to meet these requirements, I would like to Document which version meet this requirement. Thanks in advance for your time and consideration of this request. On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 13:21 -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 01:16:36PM -0800, Matt Geddes wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2008 12:59 PM, Jeremy Allison <jra at samba.org<https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba-technical>> wrote: > > > > > This looks good to me. I'm forward porting to 3.2.x and > > > Jerry has promised to test (I'm in OOXML-hell right now :-). > > > > No problems. Apologies for it being against an older sourcebase, but > > the patch should apply pretty cleanly to 3.2.x. > > > > Incidentally, looking at the neg_flags vs 2K8 problems that have been > > floating around, there's a new registry entry in Windows 2008 Server > > that causes lsass.exe to skip the check it does for > > NETLOGON_NEG_128BIT. Set the following to a non-zero value on the DCs > > and stop/start netlogon and you can join NT 4 and Samba 3 without any > > of those pesky NetrServerAuthenticate2-returning-0xc0000388 problems: > > > > HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netlogon\Parameters\AllowNT4Crypto > > > > It's a 32-bit DWORD. > > Thanks for that, but we'll just ensure we do the 128bit crypto :-). It's still probably worth documenting for people that have to use older versions of samba for a while. Thanks Matt. Yep. For those early adopters that'll install 2K8 when released, but still use some distro-packaged version of Samba from 18 months ago. Simo. Do you have enough info to document it, or is there something more I can grab for you? Did you want me to scribble something down or create a .reg file or something? thx, Matt It would be useful if you had time to create a patch against our docs, that state what we discussed, including the fact this will be fixed and unnecessary for 3.2.x Simo. -- Simo Sorce Samba Team GPL Compliance Officer <simo at samba.org<https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba-technical>> Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat Inc. <ssorce at redhat.com<https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba-technical>> Simo Sorce Samba Team GPL Compliance Officer <simo at samba.org<https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba-technical>> Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat Inc. <ssorce at redhat.com<https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba-technical>> Ben Christenbury MICROSOFT DSE Federal Civilian Enterprise Services This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Microsoft proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to Microsoft Corporation. This E-mail is intended solely for the internal use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout. |
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RE: Samba Netlogon 128bitOn Wed, 2009-11-04 at 15:16 +0000, Ben Christenbury (FEDERAL) wrote:
> Please answer directly as I am not on the alias, as I found the posting by accident ands this is time critical. > From: Ben Christenbury (FEDERAL) > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:01 AM > To: 'samba-technical@....' > Cc: Ben Christenbury (FEDERAL) > Subject: RE: Samba Netlogon 128bit > > > Please excuse the interruption of your day to this massive list but I have a technical follow-up to the posting below. > My question is in which distribution available currently or planned could our mutual customer use that would support 138bit encryption for net logon to establish a secure channel for Samba servers that are a member of a windows 2008 domain. Note as below posted on the Samba support webpages below Windows Domain must downgrade to NT Crypto (<128bit) in order to allow Samba servers to join a domain. Please note in the Federal Practice which I serve, DISA and NIST prohibit this so the Microsoft recommended solution is to upgrade Samba to a version that meets this requirement. Since this request come to us frequently as all federal agencies scramble to meet these requirements, I would like to Document which version meet this requirement. > Thanks in advance for your time and consideration of this request. > indicated we fixed this as far back as the 3.2 series. Andrew Bartlett -- Andrew Bartlett http://samba.org/~abartlet/ Authentication Developer, Samba Team http://samba.org Samba Developer, Cisco Inc. |
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