RE: The meaning of Integrated

Let's just call it DDE (disintegrated development environment) :-))

I worked with both Netbeans and Eclipse (and IntelliJ Idea too).
IMHO, Netbeans is much more integrated then Eclipse (by the order of
magnitude).
I did not use Eclipse for over 2 years but I remember well all the
plugin hell I had to wade through to make it work.
Netbeans installation in comparison was a breeze.

Cheers,
        Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Olsen [mailto:kolsen@...]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:32 PM
To: nbusers@...
Subject: Re: [nbusers] The meaning of Integrated

Regarding Eclipse, no actually, I download the standard version then add

the subversion plugin. That's all.
And I can download versions of Netbeans and Eclipse that include Java if

I'm not mistaken.

The point folks, is that integrated is, or isn't, and we're getting away

from an 'integration level' that is useful.
I'm trying to point out that there was a reason IDE's were create.
And when you require a lot of customization, or additional software,
then you are NOT integrated.
It's about that simple. If you integrate, then do all of it, or at least

provide wizards to help with the 'extra installs'.
If you don't do either of those, then you aren't integrated.
As usual, thanks for listening, and the feedback.

Take care,
Kurt


> And from the stories we here, apparently you have to also download and

> install a whole load of plugins in order to get Eclipse to do anything
INTEGRATED! 7/14/2008 6:49 AM
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