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RE: escada and jgcs

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Hi Jose

If you are saying what I think you are saying then it's certainly fine by me. All that needs to be known is that works running on top of escada won't be subject to patent or copyright issues.

Thanks

Cheers
Nick

.. and thanks for mentioning the safe mode.

> From: jop@...
> To: buzzheavyyear@...
> Subject: Re: escada and jgcs
> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:11:05 +0100
> CC: community@...; nunomrc@...
>
> On Friday 21 September 2007, buzz lightyear wrote:
> > Thanks for the reference to the paper - when using jxta I'm having to take
> > into account node failure and clients are generally aware of which nodes
> > have the database - jxta is pretty good at discovery. This idea is to
> > ensure that clients connect to the 'best' connection at the time an
> > operation is invoked. The 'load balancing' is effectively taking place on
> > the client side.
>
> I understand. You should definitely take a look at the paper and think about
> the best solution for you: Enforcing some client affinity or using ESCADA in
> the proposed safe mode, which does however have an impact in read only
> transactions.
>
> > The license is an issue do to the fact that customers may construct
> > standalone applications using my libraries, your libraries and all the
> > other libraries which they might pass onto their clients. Some customers
> > may not not want to make public the source of their application. Other
> > customers may be overlook the gpl issue, distribute an application without
> > source and be unaware that they are contravening escadas license terms, and
> > as a consequence be liable. All of the libraries I'm using, including my
> > own (once they are ready), hibernate, jboss, jxta, derby etc have at worst
> > the lgpl license, and at best the apache license.
> >
> > I dearly hope we can resolve this licensing issue.
>
> IANAL, but the client application cannot be considered a derived work from
> ESCADA and thus is exempt from any licensing restrictions imposed by ESCADA.
> Let me try to explain this.
>
> Actually, this is a _major_advantage_ of the GORDA approach: replication is
> implemented by intercepting requests within the DBMS and not within the
> client application. This allows the client application (ditto JBoss,
> hibernate) to link to the original unmodified JDBC driver. No linking to
> ESCADA code is done. Besides technically interesting this should also solve
> any licensing issues.
>
> Licensing issues might arise only when linking ESCADA to the DBMS, since the
> resulting replicated DBMS is a derived work from both ESCADA and the DBMS.
> This is why we chose GPLv3, which unlike GPLv2 is compatible with Apache 2.0
> license, hence with Derby or Sequoia. There are also no problems when linking
> GPLv3 with modified-BSD licenses, hence with PostgreSQL.
>
> Moreover, like Apache License 2.0, GPLv3 should also be safer when
> redistributing code for money regarding possible patent claims.
>
> I hope this clears the licensing issue,
>
> --
> Jose Orlando Pereira


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