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	<title>Nabble - RRDTool</title>
	<updated>2009-11-23T21:20:05Z</updated>
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	<subtitle type="html">RRD is the Acronym for Round Robin Database. RRD is a system to store and display time-series data (i.e. network bandwidth, machine-room temperature, server load average). It stores the data in a very compact way that will not expand over time, and it can create beautiful graphs. It can be used via simple shell scripts or as a perl module. RRDTool home is &lt;a href=&quot;http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</subtitle>
	
<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26490629</id>
	<title>Re: Text Alignment in Graph Box?</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T21:20:05Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T21:20:05Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tobias Oetiker-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Yesterday Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:08:34AM +0100, Reinhard Scheck wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; My lines are terminated with \n
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Can you look at the definition
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; to see if I'm missing something else?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; \n is not realy a valid choice (it is only accepted for backward
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; bug compatibility) but anyway, since you are NOT using a monospace
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; font you have to use \t for alignment ... which you don't seem to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; be doing.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; As this is a cacti graph, we should mention that at this point cacti does
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;quot;tabular adjustment&amp;quot; based on monospaced fonts only by &amp;quot;tabbing&amp;quot; with blanks.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I noticed that, but even so I tried 4 monospace fonts and they don't quite
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; look monospaced as can be seen in the graph above where I end up with a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; characters that are half aligned with the characters above and below them.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;the font in the graph above is NOT monospaced ... try courier.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is monospace not really monospace afterall?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I did not yet fiddle around with rrdtool tab chars.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; But if anyone is able to &amp;quot;translate&amp;quot; the rrdtool graph command that it works
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; using non-monospaced fonts and tabbing chars, I happily will implement this in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; cacti.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; This is the time to do it for cacti 088!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is it harder than removing spaces and adding a tab instead?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;:-) no ... and you can should even use \t and not a tab character
&lt;br&gt;(9).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
&lt;br&gt;tobi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Marc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26489922</id>
	<title>Re: can't update rrd with data.</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T19:19:19Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T19:19:19Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>A Darren Dunham</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:38:15PM -0800, John Stile wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; At the end of my backup script, if the rrd does not exist, it is created
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; via the following:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; rrdtool \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; create \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;${RRD_File}&amp;quot; \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; --step 86400 \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;DS:size:GAUGE:87000:U:U&amp;quot; \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;RRA:LAST:0.5:1:365&amp;quot; \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;RRA:LAST:0.5:30:60&amp;quot;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; After this step, I try to add the size of the backup with the following
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; command:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; rrdtool update &amp;quot;${RRD_File}&amp;quot; &amp;quot;N:${size}&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you only running this once?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The script log shows that the two variables ${RRD_File} and ${size} are
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; populated with the correct data.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I set the heartbeat to 87000 seconds (slightly higher than the step of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 86400 seconds) to allow extra time for the backup to complete.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; After the update, when I do a dump, nothing is stored in either rra.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Although this is of type &amp;quot;GAUGE&amp;quot;, RRD internally is still keeping track
&lt;br&gt;of things as rates, so you must have 2 data points (within a heartbeat
&lt;br&gt;distance) before anything can be shown.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can you show some sample data that you're providing to rrdupdate?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26488925</id>
	<title>Re: Text Alignment in Graph Box?</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T17:02:45Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T17:02:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mark Woodruff-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt&quot;&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Thank you for the overwhelming responses, yes I forgot to mention I'm using version 1.3.8.&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;Marc, Thank you for the links, a picture or a example is worth a thousand words.&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;Mark&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;B&gt;&lt;SPAN style=&quot;FONT-WEIGHT: bold&quot;&gt;From:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/B&gt; Tobias Oetiker &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26488925&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tobi@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;SPAN style=&quot;FONT-WEIGHT: bold&quot;&gt;To:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/B&gt; Marc MERLIN &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26488925&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;marc_rrd@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;SPAN style=&quot;FONT-WEIGHT: bold&quot;&gt;Cc:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/B&gt; Mark Woodruff &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26488925&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;n3hf@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;; &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26488925&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rrd-users@...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;SPAN style=&quot;FONT-WEIGHT: bold&quot;&gt;Sent:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/B&gt; Mon, November 23, 2009 11:22:24 AM&lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;SPAN style=&quot;FONT-WEIGHT: bold&quot;&gt;Subject:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/B&gt; Re: [rrd-users] Text Alignment in Graph Box?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Hi Marc,&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Today Marc MERLIN wrote:&lt;BR&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:43:42PM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Hi Mark,&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Today Mark Woodruff wrote:&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; After reading though several threads and examples, is there any&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; syntax for aligning the text below the graph when&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; plotting&amp;nbsp;multiple DS's with MIN, MAX, AVG? I tried for hours&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
 messing with this without much success, I tried using \t \r and&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; of course spaces? Is there something else out there to help out&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; on this?&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; starting with 1.2 you can use \t but you may want to use the latest&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 1.3 at least since there were a number of bugs in the alignment&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; code ...&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; also you could just use a monospace font&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; Since you mention this, I have 1.3.1 and alignment is still not working&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; for me (I tried 4 different monospace fonts).&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=zoom&amp;amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;amp;rra_id=6&amp;amp;view_type=&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; For now I just padded 'Current' with a bunch of spaces depending on the&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; probe to make it look somwhat aligned.&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; Graph definition:&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt;
 http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;amp;rra_id=6&amp;amp;view_type=&amp;amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;amp;graph_end=1258991224&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; At this point, I don't really need this fixed, but I thought I'd mention it&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; :)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;BR&gt;1.3.1 is realy old ... you should try 1.3.9 or 1.4.2&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;cheers&lt;BR&gt;tobi&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; Marc&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;-- &lt;BR&gt;Tobi Oetiker, OETIKER+PARTNER AG, Aarweg 15 CH-4600 Olten, Switzerland&lt;BR&gt;http://it.oetiker.ch &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26488925&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tobi@...&lt;/a&gt; ++41 62 775 9902 / sb: -9900&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;!-- cg8.c2.mail.ac4.yahoo.com compressed/chunked Mon Nov 23 16:55:35 PST 2009 --&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;

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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26488003</id>
	<title>Re: Text Alignment in Graph Box?</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T15:27:05Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T15:27:05Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Marc MERLIN-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:08:34AM +0100, Reinhard Scheck wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; My lines are terminated with \n
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Can you look at the definition
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; to see if I'm missing something else?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; \n is not realy a valid choice (it is only accepted for backward
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; bug compatibility) but anyway, since you are NOT using a monospace
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; font you have to use \t for alignment ... which you don't seem to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; be doing.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; As this is a cacti graph, we should mention that at this point cacti does 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;tabular adjustment&amp;quot; based on monospaced fonts only by &amp;quot;tabbing&amp;quot; with blanks.
&lt;/div&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;I noticed that, but even so I tried 4 monospace fonts and they don't quite
&lt;br&gt;look monospaced as can be seen in the graph above where I end up with a
&lt;br&gt;characters that are half aligned with the characters above and below them.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is monospace not really monospace afterall?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I did not yet fiddle around with rrdtool tab chars.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But if anyone is able to &amp;quot;translate&amp;quot; the rrdtool graph command that it works 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; using non-monospaced fonts and tabbing chars, I happily will implement this in 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cacti.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This is the time to do it for cacti 088!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it harder than removing spaces and adding a tab instead?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Marc
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26487791</id>
	<title>Re: Text Alignment in Graph Box?</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T15:08:34Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T15:08:34Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Reinhard Scheck</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Am 23.11.2009 18:14, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Marc,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Today Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 05:57:04PM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi Marc,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Today Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 05:22:24PM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; At this point, I don't really need this fixed, but I thought I'd mention it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; :)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 1.3.1 is realy old ... you should try 1.3.9 or 1.4.2
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I upgraded to the latest in debian unstable: 1.3.8, no change.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I'll have to recompile from source later. I'll give that a shot when I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; have a chance.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 1.3.8 should be ok ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; note that the whole alignement stuff only works if you terminate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; your lines or set the default line orientation otherwhise lines
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; will be justified left/right which causes the bits on the line to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; move ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; My lines are terminated with \n
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Can you look at the definition
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to see if I'm missing something else?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; \n is not realy a valid choice (it is only accepted for backward
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; bug compatibility) but anyway, since you are NOT using a monospace
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; font you have to use \t for alignment ... which you don't seem to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; be doing.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;As this is a cacti graph, we should mention that at this point cacti does 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;tabular adjustment&amp;quot; based on monospaced fonts only by &amp;quot;tabbing&amp;quot; with blanks.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I did not yet fiddle around with rrdtool tab chars.
&lt;br&gt;But if anyone is able to &amp;quot;translate&amp;quot; the rrdtool graph command that it works 
&lt;br&gt;using non-monospaced fonts and tabbing chars, I happily will implement this in 
&lt;br&gt;cacti.
&lt;br&gt;This is the time to do it for cacti 088!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reinhard
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26487346</id>
	<title>Re: Non Linear X-Axis</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T14:34:02Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T14:34:02Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tobias Oetiker-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Stuart,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Today Stuart Poulton wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is it possible to have a non-linear x-axis, I'd like to show a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 'logarithmic' time scale heres a basic ascii representation
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ----------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; | &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; |
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; | &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;|
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1week &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1day &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1 hour &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1 minute
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If possible to have bars that correspond as follows from right to left
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 7 x 1day
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 24x 1 hour
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 60 x 1 minute
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with each bar showing the average, max and min for the period.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Of course I could be barking mad.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;there is presently no such functionality in rrdtool ... I wonder
&lt;br&gt;though if the resulting graph would be much help to people since
&lt;br&gt;the funky scale might be pretty confusing ...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;have you ever seen such a graph and made sense of it ...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
&lt;br&gt;tobi
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Stuart
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26485995</id>
	<title>Non Linear X-Axis</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T13:01:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T13:01:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stuart Poulton-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it possible to have a non-linear x-axis, I'd like to show a &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;'logarithmic' time scale heres a basic ascii representation
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; | &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; | &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;| &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;|
&lt;br&gt;1week &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1day &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1 hour &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1 minute
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If possible to have bars that correspond as follows from right to left
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;7 x 1day
&lt;br&gt;24x 1 hour
&lt;br&gt;60 x 1 minute
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;with each bar showing the average, max and min for the period.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course I could be barking mad.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stuart
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26485492</id>
	<title>can't update rrd with data.</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T12:38:15Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T12:38:15Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from john@stilen.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I need help to understand why my rrd won't accept data from my updates.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is to chart a number once a day.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At the end of my backup script, if the rrd does not exist, it is created
&lt;br&gt;via the following:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; rrdtool \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; create \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;${RRD_File}&amp;quot; \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; --step 86400 \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;DS:size:GAUGE:87000:U:U&amp;quot; \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;RRA:LAST:0.5:1:365&amp;quot; \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;RRA:LAST:0.5:30:60&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;which I understand to mean the following:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;Create an rrd database, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;with a PDP (primary data point) every 86400 seconds (24 hours),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;with a Data Store named='size', 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;of type type=GUAGE, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;and if it isn't updated every &amp;nbsp;87000 seconds (a little over 24 hours), 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;the recorded value will be 'unknown' (this is the heartbeat).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;Only half the members of each RRA need to be present, or value will be 'unknown'.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;The first RRA uses 1 PDP and stores 365 records (for a 1 year period tracked).
&lt;br&gt;The second RRA uses 30 PDP and stores 60 records (for a 5 year period tracked).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After this step, I try to add the size of the backup with the following
&lt;br&gt;command:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; rrdtool update &amp;quot;${RRD_File}&amp;quot; &amp;quot;N:${size}&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The script log shows that the two variables ${RRD_File} and ${size} are
&lt;br&gt;populated with the correct data.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I set the heartbeat to 87000 seconds (slightly higher than the step of
&lt;br&gt;86400 seconds) to allow extra time for the backup to complete.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After the update, when I do a dump, nothing is stored in either rra.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26482226</id>
	<title>Re: Text Alignment in Graph Box?</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T09:14:41Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T09:14:41Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tobias Oetiker-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Marc,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Today Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 05:57:04PM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Hi Marc,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Today Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 05:22:24PM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; At this point, I don't really need this fixed, but I thought I'd mention it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; :)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; 1.3.1 is realy old ... you should try 1.3.9 or 1.4.2
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I upgraded to the latest in debian unstable: 1.3.8, no change.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I'll have to recompile from source later. I'll give that a shot when I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; have a chance.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 1.3.8 should be ok ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; note that the whole alignement stuff only works if you terminate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; your lines or set the default line orientation otherwhise lines
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; will be justified left/right which causes the bits on the line to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; move ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; My lines are terminated with \n
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Can you look at the definition
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to see if I'm missing something else?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;\n is not realy a valid choice (it is only accepted for backward
&lt;br&gt;bug compatibility) but anyway, since you are NOT using a monospace
&lt;br&gt;font you have to use \t for alignment ... which you don't seem to
&lt;br&gt;be doing.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
&lt;br&gt;tobi
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Marc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26482159</id>
	<title>Re: Text Alignment in Graph Box?</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T09:10:09Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T09:10:09Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Marc MERLIN-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 05:57:04PM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Marc,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Today Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 05:22:24PM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; At this point, I don't really need this fixed, but I thought I'd mention it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; :)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; 1.3.1 is realy old ... you should try 1.3.9 or 1.4.2
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I upgraded to the latest in debian unstable: 1.3.8, no change.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I'll have to recompile from source later. I'll give that a shot when I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; have a chance.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1.3.8 should be ok ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; note that the whole alignement stuff only works if you terminate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; your lines or set the default line orientation otherwhise lines
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; will be justified left/right which causes the bits on the line to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; move ...
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;My lines are terminated with \n
&lt;br&gt;Can you look at the definition 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;to see if I'm missing something else?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Marc
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26481219</id>
	<title>Re: Text Alignment in Graph Box?</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T08:22:24Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T08:22:24Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tobias Oetiker-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Marc,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Today Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:43:42PM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Hi Mark,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Today Mark Woodruff wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; After reading though several threads and examples, is there any
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; syntax for aligning the text below the graph when
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; plotting multiple DS's with MIN, MAX, AVG? I tried for hours
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; messing with this without much success, I tried using \t \r and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; of course spaces? Is there something else out there to help out
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; on this?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; starting with 1.2 you can use \t but you may want to use the latest
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 1.3 at least since there were a number of bugs in the alignment
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; code ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; also you could just use a monospace font
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Since you mention this, I have 1.3.1 and alignment is still not working
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for me (I tried 4 different monospace fonts).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=zoom&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=zoom&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; For now I just padded 'Current' with a bunch of spaces depending on the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; probe to make it look somwhat aligned.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Graph definition:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; At this point, I don't really need this fixed, but I thought I'd mention it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; :)
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;1.3.1 is realy old ... you should try 1.3.9 or 1.4.2
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
&lt;br&gt;tobi
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Marc
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26480619</id>
	<title>Re: Text Alignment in Graph Box?</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T07:50:45Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T07:50:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Marc MERLIN-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:43:42PM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Mark,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Today Mark Woodruff wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; After reading though several threads and examples, is there any
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; syntax for aligning the text below the graph when
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; plotting multiple DS's with MIN, MAX, AVG? I tried for hours
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; messing with this without much success, I tried using \t \r and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; of course spaces? Is there something else out there to help out
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; on this?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; starting with 1.2 you can use \t but you may want to use the latest
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1.3 at least since there were a number of bugs in the alignment
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; code ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; also you could just use a monospace font
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since you mention this, I have 1.3.1 and alignment is still not working
&lt;br&gt;for me (I tried 4 different monospace fonts).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=zoom&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=zoom&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For now I just padded 'Current' with a bunch of spaces depending on the
&lt;br&gt;probe to make it look somwhat aligned.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Graph definition:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=properties&amp;local_graph_id=14&amp;rra_id=6&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258976884&amp;graph_end=1258991224&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At this point, I don't really need this fixed, but I thought I'd mention it
&lt;br&gt;:)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Marc
&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26474545</id>
	<title>Hi~! would you mind if i ask you to use RRDtool?</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T00:52:11Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T00:52:11Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>성노섭</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;IMG SRC=&quot;http://mail.nate.com/NateConfirmMgr.php?act=confirm&amp;key=1258966331_rrd-developers@lists.oetiker.ch&amp;from=|PROFILE1|24|75|36|tjdshtjq@nate.com&quot; height=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;Hi~!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;I'm korean who study network in Sungkyunkwan university.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;Sorry,&amp;nbsp; i&amp;nbsp;don't speak English very well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;Anyway, i hope to make a simple network monitoring program using RRdtool and Libpcap&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;I&amp;nbsp;tried to search document that is RRD menual using C API, but got a little information&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;Please, help me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;i'dont understand how to use a function of RRDtool in real network?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;read the example..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;//&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;char * updateparams[]={&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;rrdupdate&amp;quot;,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;myfile.rrd&amp;quot;,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;0:42&amp;quot;,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;NULL&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;};&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;rrd_update(3,updateparams);&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;//&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;rrd_crate and rrd_graph are almost same..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;But it's not enough.. T_T&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;I&amp;nbsp;hope to know a code...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;Now, there are a many example, but i don't know a real code with libpcap.. T_T&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;I already completed coding to capture packet using libpcap&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;Please, help me.. T_T&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;Thank you, best regards&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;MARGIN: 3px 0px 2px&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26469821</id>
	<title>Re: Text Alignment in Graph Box?</title>
	<published>2009-11-22T13:43:42Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-22T13:43:42Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tobias Oetiker-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Mark,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Today Mark Woodruff wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; After reading though several threads and examples, is there any
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; syntax for aligning the text below the graph when
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; plotting multiple DS's with MIN, MAX, AVG? I tried for hours
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; messing with this without much success, I tried using \t \r and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; of course spaces? Is there something else out there to help out
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; on this?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;starting with 1.2 you can use \t but you may want to use the latest
&lt;br&gt;1.3 at least since there were a number of bugs in the alignment
&lt;br&gt;code ...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;also you could just use a monospace font
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
&lt;br&gt;tobi
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mark
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26465834</id>
	<title>Text Alignment in Graph Box?</title>
	<published>2009-11-22T06:41:15Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-22T06:41:15Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mark Woodruff-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt&quot;&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;After reading though several threads and examples, is there any syntax for aligning the text below the graph when plotting&amp;nbsp;multiple DS's with MIN, MAX, AVG? I tried for hours messing with this without much success, I tried using \t \r and of course spaces? Is there something else out there to help out on this?&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;Mark&lt;/DIV&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26464231</id>
	<title>Re: Exact Entry for 95 percentiles ?</title>
	<published>2009-11-22T02:54:26Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-22T02:54:26Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ivan Zahariev</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Olivier CALVANO wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; i request a small help because i don't know RRD.
&lt;br&gt;...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; if you can modify my 3 scripts ;=) because read and undertsand all
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; documentation is very long.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can also try the RRDtool wizard and learn RRD by examples ;)
&lt;br&gt;The URL is: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.famzah.net/rrdwizard/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.famzah.net/rrdwizard/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you have any comments about it, direct them to me. Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--famzah
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26463996</id>
	<title>Exact Entry for 95 percentiles ?</title>
	<published>2009-11-22T02:13:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-22T02:13:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Olivier CALVANO</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i request a small help because i don&amp;#39;t know RRD.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I create the database:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;rrdtool create waninet.rrd DS:ifin:COUNTER:576:0:1000000 DS:ifout:COUNTER:576:0:1000000 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:576 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:6:336 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:72:124 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:144:732 RRA:MAX:0.5:1:576 RRA:MAX:0.5:6:336 RRA:MAX:0.5:72:124 RRA:MAX:0.5:144:732i&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;i sent data all 5 mn:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;/usr/bin/rrdupdate /var/spool/Rrdtool/waninet.rrd N:InOctets:OutOctets&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and create the graph:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;rrdtool graph /var/www/stats/waninet_ifday.gif \&lt;br&gt;-t &amp;quot;$TITRE Historique sur une journée&amp;quot; \&lt;br&gt;
-v &amp;quot;bits/s&amp;quot; \&lt;br&gt;--font &amp;#39;DEFAULT:0:DejaVuSansMono&amp;#39; \&lt;br&gt;-w 500 -h 120 \&lt;br&gt;--slope-mode \&lt;br&gt;--alt-autoscale \&lt;br&gt;--start $NOW1D \&lt;br&gt;--end $NOW \&lt;br&gt;DEF:downaverage=$RRDATAPATH/$DATABASE:ifin:AVERAGE \&lt;br&gt;
DEF:upaverage=$RRDATAPATH/$DATABASE:ifout:AVERAGE \&lt;br&gt;CDEF:inaverage=downaverage,8,* \&lt;br&gt;CDEF:outaverage=upaverage,8,* \&lt;br&gt;VRULE:1120687200#EE00EE: \&lt;br&gt;GPRINT:inaverage:MAX:&amp;quot;IN Max\: %6.2lf %s&amp;quot; \&lt;br&gt;GPRINT:inaverage:MIN:&amp;quot;Min\: %6.2lf %s&amp;quot; \&lt;br&gt;
GPRINT:inaverage:AVERAGE:&amp;quot;Moy\: %6.2lf %s&amp;quot; \&lt;br&gt;GPRINT:inaverage:LAST:&amp;quot;Last\: %6.2lf %s&amp;quot; \&lt;br&gt;AREA:inaverage#00EE00:&amp;quot;IN bps \l&amp;quot; \&lt;br&gt;GPRINT:outaverage:MAX:&amp;quot;OUT Max\: %6.2lf %s&amp;quot; \&lt;br&gt;
GPRINT:outaverage:MIN:&amp;quot;Min\: %6.2lf %s&amp;quot; \&lt;br&gt;GPRINT:outaverage:AVERAGE:&amp;quot;Moy\: %6.2lf %s&amp;quot; \&lt;br&gt;GPRINT:outaverage:LAST:&amp;quot;Last\: %6.2lf %s&amp;quot; \&lt;br&gt;LINE1:outaverage#0000FF:&amp;quot;OUT bps &amp;quot; \&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That work greats (i have get this data by google, it&amp;#39;s not me)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyone can help me ? i want:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1- Create the same base but on 12 mounth for all 5mn &lt;br&gt;2- add a 95 percentiles information&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;if you can modify my 3 scripts ;=) because read and undertsand all documentation is very long.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;very thanks&lt;br&gt;Olivier&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26452739</id>
	<title>Changing order if Datasources / rrdcached</title>
	<published>2009-11-20T17:00:12Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-20T17:00:12Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Wolfgang Powisch (privat)</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my monitoring application I'm using --template for all RRD updates.
&lt;br&gt;Now I'm planning(forced) to use rrdcached for scaling/performance 
&lt;br&gt;reasons and noticed that it doesn't support the template switch together 
&lt;br&gt;with --daemon :
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Error message:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;The caching daemon cannot be used together with templates yet.&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was checking all my different types of rrd files if the order of 
&lt;br&gt;Datasources is consistent between them. Unfortunately they aren't due
&lt;br&gt;to historical reasons ;-( , they all have the same Datasources in it
&lt;br&gt;but not in the same order.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now my questions:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.) is it possible to modify the order of Datasources in a rrd file
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;without export/xml-fidling/restore ?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Nothing found in manpage of rrdtune.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.) I haven't yet looked into rrdcached sources but supporting the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;template switch with the daemon sounds challenging.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Otherwise the &amp;quot;not yet&amp;quot; in the error message promises the feature
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;to be implemented in the near future .... does it ? ;-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thx in advance for any feedback
&lt;br&gt;regards, wolfgang
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26434224</id>
	<title>Re: rrdcached + MRTG</title>
	<published>2009-11-19T13:14:15Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-19T13:14:15Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tobias Oetiker-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi José,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Today José Luis Megías Martín wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm trying to run 'rrdcached + MRTG', but I'm not sure if the following steps are ok:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I set RRDCACHED_ADDRESS environment variable:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; export &amp;nbsp;RRDCACHED_ADDRESS=127.0.0.1
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I run rrdcached as:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; rrdcached -l 127.0.0.1 &amp;lt;some typical params&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; but when I run mrtg, I get this error message:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; ERROR: Cannot update file.rrd with '1257937902:14296586674:19866901102' The &amp;quot;RRDCACHED_ADDRESS&amp;quot; environment variable is defined, but &amp;quot;dummy&amp;quot; cannot work with rrdcached. Either unset the environment variable or use &amp;quot;update&amp;quot; instead
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It's necessary to apply some kind of patch to mrtg ?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; What does '&amp;quot;dummy&amp;quot; cannot work with rrdcached' mean ?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;this can only work if you run with a unix domain socket ... for ip
&lt;br&gt;access you need an application that is aware of the cached.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
&lt;br&gt;tobi
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks in advance
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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	<title>rrdcached + MRTG</title>
	<published>2009-11-19T06:52:28Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-19T06:52:28Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>José Luis Megías Martín</name>
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&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;Hi, &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;I&amp;#8217;m trying to run &amp;#8216;rrdcached + MRTG&amp;#8217;, but
I&amp;#8217;m not sure if the following steps are ok: &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;I set RRDCACHED_ADDRESS environment variable: &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;  export  RRDCACHED_ADDRESS=127.0.0.1 &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;I run rrdcached as: &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;  rrdcached -l 127.0.0.1 &amp;lt;some typical params&amp;gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;but when I run mrtg, I get this error message: &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;  &lt;i&gt;ERROR: Cannot update file.rrd with
'1257937902:14296586674:19866901102' The &amp;quot;RRDCACHED_ADDRESS&amp;quot;
environment variable is defined, but&lt;b&gt; &amp;quot;dummy&amp;quot; cannot work with
rrdcached&lt;/b&gt;. Either unset the environment variable or use &amp;quot;update&amp;quot;
instead&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;It&amp;#8217;s necessary to apply some kind of patch to mrtg ?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;What does &amp;#8216;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;dummy&amp;quot; cannot work with
rrdcached&amp;#8217;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; mean ?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;Thanks in advance&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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	<title>some issues compiling rrdtool 1.4.2 on hp-ux</title>
	<published>2009-11-19T04:33:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-19T04:33:39Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stoyan Angelov</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i am trying to compile rrdtool 1.4.2 on hp-ux 11.23 (pa-risc) but i have 
&lt;br&gt;several problems. i use hp's C/aC++ compiler and hp's make.
&lt;br&gt;during configuration i get the following warnings:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;output truncated&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;config.status: creating examples/Makefile
&lt;br&gt;config.status: creating examples/rrdcached/Makefile
&lt;br&gt;config.status: creating doc/Makefile
&lt;br&gt;config.status: creating po/Makefile.in
&lt;br&gt;config.status: WARNING: &amp;nbsp;'po/Makefile.in.in' seems to ignore the 
&lt;br&gt;--datarootdir setting
&lt;br&gt;config.status: creating intl/Makefile
&lt;br&gt;config.status: WARNING: &amp;nbsp;'intl/Makefile.in' seems to ignore the 
&lt;br&gt;--datarootdir setting
&lt;br&gt;config.status: creating src/Makefile
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;snip&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;then, when i use make i get:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No suffix list.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;make &amp;nbsp;all-recursive
&lt;br&gt;No suffix list.
&lt;br&gt;Making all in po
&lt;br&gt;Make: line 189: syntax error. &amp;nbsp;Stop.
&lt;br&gt;*** Error exit code 1
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stop.
&lt;br&gt;*** Error exit code 1
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stop.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i tried using configure with '--with-included-gettext', then i tried 
&lt;br&gt;using the local gettext (version 0.15) with 
&lt;br&gt;'--with-libintl-prefix=/usr/local' and finally i tried '--disable-nls' 
&lt;br&gt;however the problem persists.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;if i add the datarootdir setting to the respective makefiles then the 
&lt;br&gt;warnings during configure disappear.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*** po/Makefile.in.in &amp;nbsp; Sun Nov 15 13:54:41 2009
&lt;br&gt;--- po/Makefile.in.in.aduritz &amp;nbsp; Thu Nov 19 13:55:59 2009
&lt;br&gt;***************
&lt;br&gt;*** 24,29 ****
&lt;br&gt;--- 24,30 ----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;prefix = @prefix@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;exec_prefix = @exec_prefix@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;datadir = @datadir@
&lt;br&gt;+ datarootdir = @datarootdir@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;localedir = $(datadir)/locale
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;gettextsrcdir = $(datadir)/gettext/po
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;in the generated makefile i see the the 'POFILES = ' line 45 is empty 
&lt;br&gt;and the same for 'DUMMYPOFILES =':
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;snip&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;42 &amp;nbsp;MSGCONV = msgconv
&lt;br&gt;43 &amp;nbsp;MSGFILTER = msgfilter
&lt;br&gt;44
&lt;br&gt;45 &amp;nbsp;POFILES =
&lt;br&gt;46 &amp;nbsp;GMOFILES =
&lt;br&gt;47 &amp;nbsp;UPDATEPOFILES =
&lt;br&gt;48 &amp;nbsp;DUMMYPOFILES =
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and make fails again with syntax error on line 190:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;188 &amp;nbsp;# This target rebuilds a PO file if $(DOMAIN).pot has changed.
&lt;br&gt;189 &amp;nbsp;# Note that a PO file is not touched if it doesn't need to be changed.
&lt;br&gt;190 &amp;nbsp;$(POFILES): $(srcdir)/$(DOMAIN).pot
&lt;br&gt;191 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;@lang=`echo $@ | sed -e 's,.*/,,' -e 's/\.po$$//'`; \
&lt;br&gt;192 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;if test -f &amp;quot;$(srcdir)/$${lang}.po&amp;quot;; then \
&lt;br&gt;193 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;test &amp;quot;$(srcdir)&amp;quot; = . &amp;&amp; cdcmd=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; || cdcmd=&amp;quot;cd $(srcdir) 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;&amp; &amp;quot;; \
&lt;br&gt;194 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;echo &amp;quot;$${cdcmd}$(MSGMERGE_UPDATE) $${lang}.po 
&lt;br&gt;$(DOMAIN).pot&amp;quot;; \
&lt;br&gt;195 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;cd $(srcdir) &amp;&amp; $(MSGMERGE_UPDATE) $${lang}.po 
&lt;br&gt;$(DOMAIN).pot; \
&lt;br&gt;196 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;else \
&lt;br&gt;197 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;$(MAKE) $${lang}.po-create; \
&lt;br&gt;198 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;fi
&lt;br&gt;199
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;another issue - i commented out the problematic lines in the Makefile 
&lt;br&gt;but make failed with another error:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;CC &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; rrd_hw_update.lo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;CC &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; rrd_diff.lo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;CC &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; rrd_format.lo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;CC &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; rrd_info.lo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;CC &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; rrd_error.lo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;CC &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; rrd_open.lo
&lt;br&gt;cc: &amp;quot;rrd_open.c&amp;quot;, line 686: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: &amp;quot;)&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;cc: &amp;quot;rrd_open.c&amp;quot;, line 748: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: &amp;quot;)&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;cc: &amp;quot;rrd_open.c&amp;quot;, line 749: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: &amp;quot;)&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;cc: &amp;quot;rrd_open.c&amp;quot;, line 750: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: &amp;quot;)&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;cc: &amp;quot;rrd_open.c&amp;quot;, line 751: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: &amp;quot;)&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;cc: &amp;quot;rrd_open.c&amp;quot;, line 763: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: &amp;quot;)&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;cc: &amp;quot;rrd_open.c&amp;quot;, line 764: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: &amp;quot;)&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;cc: &amp;quot;rrd_open.c&amp;quot;, line 762: error 1711: Inconsistent parameter list 
&lt;br&gt;declaration for &amp;quot;rrd_select_initial_row&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;cc: &amp;quot;rrd_open.c&amp;quot;, line 768: error 1529: Cannot select field of 
&lt;br&gt;non-structure.
&lt;br&gt;*** Error exit code 1
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stop.
&lt;br&gt;*** Error exit code 1
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stop.
&lt;br&gt;*** Error exit code 1c
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;any help will be greatly appreciated.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;greetings,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stoyan
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26424471</id>
	<title>Re: Date/time-related problem on Windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-19T03:10:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-19T03:10:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tobias Oetiker-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Dod,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Today Dod wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have a problem with win32 rrdtool (1.3.8 pre compiled version), I am
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rrdtool &amp;nbsp;beginner &amp;nbsp;and &amp;nbsp;used &amp;nbsp;it &amp;nbsp;only &amp;nbsp;once &amp;nbsp;for multiple temperature
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sensors draw so I am not experienced enought to fully understand fully
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; how this powerfull RRDTool work.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Today &amp;nbsp;I &amp;nbsp;want to use RDDTool again to graph HEC / CRC error's counter
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; of DSL router, so I create a one minute step .rrd with enought rows to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; get more than a year of data.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rrdtool create hec.rrd --start &amp;quot;1257698388&amp;quot; --step 60 DS:HEC:GAUGE:600:U:U RRA:AVERAGE:0:1:600000
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1257698388 = 08 nov 2009 16:39:48
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But if I ask for rrdtool first and last I get weird values :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; first = 1221698400 = 18/09/2008 00:40:00 &amp;lt;= 2008 ???
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; last = &amp;nbsp;1257698388 = 08/11/2009 16:39:48
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I don't understand first and last date, why 2008 , why last is --start
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; value ?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Now I add a few entries
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rrdtool update hec.rrd 1257698606@41907 1257698821@41907 1257698908@41907 1257698933@41907 1257698956@41907 1257698965@41907
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1257698606 = 08/11/2009 16:43:26
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1257698821 = 08/11/2009 16:47:01
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1257698908 = 08/11/2009 16:48:28
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1257698933 = 08/11/2009 16:48:53
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1257698956 = 08/11/2009 16:49:16
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1257698965 = 08/11/2009 16:49:25
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; And ask first/last again
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; first = 1221699000 = 18/09/2008 00:50:00 &amp;lt;= 10 minutes diff from previous request ???
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; last = &amp;nbsp;1257698965 = 08/11/2009 16:49:25 OK this is real time of last entry
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Why first value differ from previous request ?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;rrdtool stores data in a rotating buffer. the last (latest) value
&lt;br&gt;in the buffer coresponds to the last time you update it. As you
&lt;br&gt;create a new rrd you can define when it should expect the 'first'
&lt;br&gt;input using the --start parameter (maybe oddly named). As you
&lt;br&gt;create a new rrd file it stretches into the past fro the current
&lt;br&gt;time or whatever you defined using --start
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;as you are filling the rrd with data it rolls forward, dropping off
&lt;br&gt;the values stored at the end of the archive. &amp;nbsp;hence the name ...
&lt;br&gt;round robin ....
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;hth
&lt;br&gt;tobi
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; regards.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26423254</id>
	<title>Date/time-related problem on Windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-19T01:25:59Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-19T01:25:59Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dod-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have a problem with win32 rrdtool (1.3.8 pre compiled version), I am
&lt;br&gt;rrdtool &amp;nbsp;beginner &amp;nbsp;and &amp;nbsp;used &amp;nbsp;it &amp;nbsp;only &amp;nbsp;once &amp;nbsp;for multiple temperature
&lt;br&gt;sensors draw so I am not experienced enought to fully understand fully
&lt;br&gt;how this powerfull RRDTool work.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Today &amp;nbsp;I &amp;nbsp;want to use RDDTool again to graph HEC / CRC error's counter
&lt;br&gt;of DSL router, so I create a one minute step .rrd with enought rows to
&lt;br&gt;get more than a year of data.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;rrdtool create hec.rrd --start &amp;quot;1257698388&amp;quot; --step 60 DS:HEC:GAUGE:600:U:U RRA:AVERAGE:0:1:600000
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1257698388 = 08 nov 2009 16:39:48
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But if I ask for rrdtool first and last I get weird values :
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;first = 1221698400 = 18/09/2008 00:40:00 &amp;lt;= 2008 ???
&lt;br&gt;last = &amp;nbsp;1257698388 = 08/11/2009 16:39:48
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't understand first and last date, why 2008 , why last is --start
&lt;br&gt;value ?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now I add a few entries
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;rrdtool update hec.rrd 1257698606@41907 1257698821@41907 1257698908@41907 1257698933@41907 1257698956@41907 1257698965@41907
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1257698606 = 08/11/2009 16:43:26
&lt;br&gt;1257698821 = 08/11/2009 16:47:01
&lt;br&gt;1257698908 = 08/11/2009 16:48:28
&lt;br&gt;1257698933 = 08/11/2009 16:48:53
&lt;br&gt;1257698956 = 08/11/2009 16:49:16
&lt;br&gt;1257698965 = 08/11/2009 16:49:25
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And ask first/last again
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;first = 1221699000 = 18/09/2008 00:50:00 &amp;lt;= 10 minutes diff from previous request ???
&lt;br&gt;last = &amp;nbsp;1257698965 = 08/11/2009 16:49:25 OK this is real time of last entry
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why first value differ from previous request ?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;regards.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26413966</id>
	<title>Re: Can you use the graphed time interval in a CDEF function?</title>
	<published>2009-11-18T11:16:20Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-18T11:16:20Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>A Darren Dunham</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:02:33AM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I don't see why you'd want to depend on the time range of the graph. &amp;nbsp;If
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; your graph was 22 hours, wouldn't you still want to see Kwh/day and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; therefore still multiply by 24?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; No. I might want to see a week's worth or a month's worth or whatever range
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I zoomed on.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; For instance how much electricity did I use in august, or how much AC did I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; use last week.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Okay, so you want to compute cumulative engery usage. &amp;nbsp;I think I was
&lt;br&gt;thinking you just wanted to scale the units. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; If you do want the time range, I think you'd have to graph something
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; twice. &amp;nbsp;The first one doesn't have to have all the data, but you can get
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; the range info from it with graphv. &amp;nbsp;Then use that information to create
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; the second graph.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm not familiar with graphv, but can I do it on a dynamic basis based on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the range I just selected to render as a rrdtool graph with cacti or from
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the command line?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes. &amp;nbsp;Use 'graphv' instead of 'graph', and it returns details about the
&lt;br&gt;graph, including the 'start' and 'end' times. &amp;nbsp;So you might have to
&lt;br&gt;graph twice. &amp;nbsp;Once to get the times, then again after you have that
&lt;br&gt;information. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Darren
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26408469</id>
	<title>Re: Debugging graph smoothing or bad data samples? interpolation bug?</title>
	<published>2009-11-18T06:06:57Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-18T06:06:57Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Kevin P. Foote</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;OK, that's pretty slick. I didn't know cacti could do that.. :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;------
&lt;br&gt;thanks
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; kevin.foote
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:25:48PM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Hi Marc,
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Today Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 06:50:40AM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Hi Marc,
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Does that make any sense to you?
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; not entirely, I can only say that irregular data arrival times are
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; rrdtools forte ... have you tried to write the data into a logfile
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; (including the timestamp) and then recreate the phaenomenon by hand ?
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I have all the data in a logfile already, this is where I read it from :)
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; (script writes to logfile, cacti polls logfile from cron and feeds to
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; rrdtool).
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I have another script that will dump the entire logfile, generate a log list
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; of rrdtool update statements and I can recreate the entire rrd from scratch
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; after erasing it and replaying all the events.
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; ah ... in that case it is clear ... sometimes, you have one update
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; in the file and sometimes two by the time cacti comes around ...a
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; very bad case of jitter ... you should realy make it so that cacti
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; can trigger the data accqusition ...
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; Mmmh, I see what you mean. Yes, now that I think about it, in a bad case
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; scenario, the cacti poller could hit a race condition and get the next sample
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; one period early, and see the same sample again.
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; That must be what happened, thanks for pointing it out to me.
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 04:33:47PM -0500, Kevin P. Foote wrote:
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Alternative in line w/Tobi.. scrap cacti (unless you really use it for
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; other things) and move to using your (obvious) scriptability to update
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; the RRD on your interval. Then graph with something like drraw which 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; focuses on the graph not the acquisition of the data AND the graph.
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; So, I do use cacti for being able to generate graphs on the fly and zoom
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; in/out with a few mouse clicks. It's quite nice for that.
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; See:
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://marc.merlins.org/perso/solar/2009-11.html#Brand-One-Powermeter_-Solar-and-Power-Monitoring-with-Cacti-and-Real-Time-PG_E-Time-of-Use-price-calculation&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://marc.merlins.org/perso/solar/2009-11.html#Brand-One-Powermeter_-Solar-and-Power-Monitoring-with-Cacti-and-Real-Time-PG_E-Time-of-Use-price-calculation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; All the graphs that you see, you can select a range with the mouse and zoom
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; in or zoom out with right mouse click.
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; All that said, cacti has an option not to update the rrd itself and let me
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; do it myself. This is likely the road I'll take to fix this race condition
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; problem.
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; Thanks for the answers,
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; Marc
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	<title>Re: changing max value for DS</title>
	<published>2009-11-18T01:01:02Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-18T01:01:02Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bernhard Bitsch</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Tobi,
&lt;br&gt;thank you. That was the &amp;quot;trick&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
&lt;br&gt;Bernhard
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tobias Oetiker schrieb:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Bernhard,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Yesterday Bernhard Bitsch wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I'm using RRDtool with IPCop ( used version is rrdtool-1.0.49 ).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; If I try to change the max value of an DS using the lines
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; use RRDs;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; RRDs::tune (&amp;quot;myfile.rrd&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;-a usf:60&amp;quot;);
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; try
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; RRDs::tune (&amp;quot;myfile.rrd&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;-a&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;usf:60&amp;quot;);
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I get the error message &amp;quot;invalid arguments for maximum ds value&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Isn't tune fully implmented in that version or what am I doing wrong?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cheers
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tobi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Thx in advance
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Bernhard
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26403891</id>
	<title>Re: Can you use the graphed time interval in a CDEF function?</title>
	<published>2009-11-18T00:02:33Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-18T00:02:33Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Marc MERLIN-4</name>
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	<content type="html">On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 05:41:47PM +0000, A Darren Dunham wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 07:11:54AM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; If I'm graphing something like this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=zoom&amp;local_graph_id=19&amp;rra_id=0&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258012800&amp;graph_end=1258099199&amp;graph_height=320&amp;graph_width=800&amp;title_font_size=10&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gargamel.merlins.org/cacti/graph.php?action=zoom&amp;local_graph_id=19&amp;rra_id=0&amp;view_type=&amp;graph_start=1258012800&amp;graph_end=1258099199&amp;graph_height=320&amp;graph_width=800&amp;title_font_size=10&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Those labels seem odd to me. &amp;nbsp;If you're measuring power at a point in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; time, wouldn't that be in Kw, not Kwh (a unit of energy)?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;True, I should label kw.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Is there a way to take my average values and auto-multiply them by the time
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; range?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; That way if I take avg val * 24H in the graph above it would give me
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Kwh/day.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I don't see why you'd want to depend on the time range of the graph. &amp;nbsp;If
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; your graph was 22 hours, wouldn't you still want to see Kwh/day and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; therefore still multiply by 24?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No. I might want to see a week's worth or a month's worth or whatever range
&lt;br&gt;I zoomed on.
&lt;br&gt;For instance how much electricity did I use in august, or how much AC did I
&lt;br&gt;use last week.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If you do want the time range, I think you'd have to graph something
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; twice. &amp;nbsp;The first one doesn't have to have all the data, but you can get
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the range info from it with graphv. &amp;nbsp;Then use that information to create
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the second graph.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm not familiar with graphv, but can I do it on a dynamic basis based on
&lt;br&gt;the range I just selected to render as a rrdtool graph with cacti or from
&lt;br&gt;the command line?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;Marc
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26402640</id>
	<title>Re: changing max value for DS</title>
	<published>2009-11-17T21:10:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-17T21:10:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tobias Oetiker-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Bernhard,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yesterday Bernhard Bitsch wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm using RRDtool with IPCop ( used version is rrdtool-1.0.49 ).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If I try to change the max value of an DS using the lines
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; use RRDs;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; RRDs::tune (&amp;quot;myfile.rrd&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;-a usf:60&amp;quot;);
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;try
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;RRDs::tune (&amp;quot;myfile.rrd&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;-a&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;usf:60&amp;quot;);
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I get the error message &amp;quot;invalid arguments for maximum ds value&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Isn't tune fully implmented in that version or what am I doing wrong?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
&lt;br&gt;tobi
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thx in advance
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Bernhard
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26399435</id>
	<title>Re: rrdtool 1.4.x without graphing support?</title>
	<published>2009-11-17T15:02:43Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-17T15:02:43Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ulf Zimmermann-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Attached are the patches and the spec file I used to build a version now on RedHat EL4 without graphing support and no rrdcached.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The spec file is from an older version and I did do some modifications to it, to fit my environment/EL4.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As we don't care about ruby, tcl, php or python I used this command to build:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;rpmbuild -bb --define '_without_python 0' --define '_without_php 0' --define '_without_tcl 0' --define '_without_ruby 0' rrdtool.spec
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am now proceeding with a test of building collectd 4.8.1 and to use it to send data to a central server, which will run rrdcached.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ulf.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26399160</id>
	<title>changing max value for DS</title>
	<published>2009-11-17T14:43:40Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-17T14:43:40Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bernhard Bitsch</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I'm using RRDtool with IPCop ( used version is rrdtool-1.0.49 ).
&lt;br&gt;If I try to change the max value of an DS using the lines
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;use RRDs;
&lt;br&gt;RRDs::tune (&amp;quot;myfile.rrd&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;-a usf:60&amp;quot;);
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I get the error message &amp;quot;invalid arguments for maximum ds value&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;Isn't tune fully implmented in that version or what am I doing wrong?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thx in advance
&lt;br&gt;Bernhard
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	<title>Re: rrdtool 1.4.x without graphing support?</title>
	<published>2009-11-17T14:08:25Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-17T14:08:25Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ulf Zimmermann-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Tobias Oetiker [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26398648&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tobi@...&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:07 PM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; To: Ulf Zimmermann
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: RE: [rrd-users] rrdtool 1.4.x without graphing support?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Ulf,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Today Ulf Zimmermann wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I am right now looking for librrd, including rrdcached (as
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; client) to be used for collectd. You wrote above that cached
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; uses
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; glib?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; yes cached uses it, but only on the server ... clients do not use
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; cached ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Ok, I will patch out the check for it in configure.ac for now
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I do not see an option to specific not rrd_daemon, so after removing
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the glib check in configure.ac, I added still CPPFLAGS to the configure
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for it to find the include files of the older glib 2.4.17, as otherwise
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the compile of rrd_daemon.c complains about all the glib includes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; This results still into two errors:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DLOCALEDIR=&amp;quot;\&amp;quot;/home/ulf/tmp4/testinstall/share/locale\&amp;quot;&amp;quot; -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DVERSION='&amp;quot;1.4.2&amp;quot;' -DLOCALSTATEDIR='&amp;quot;/home/ulf/tmp4/testinstall/var&amp;quot;' -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I/usr/include/libxml2 -g -O2 -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; std=c99 -pedantic -Wundef -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Winline -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Wold-style-definition -W &amp;nbsp;-fPIC -DPIC -g -O2 -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aliasing -Wall -std=c99 -pedantic -Wundef -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Wcast-align -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; externs -Winline -Wold-style-definition -W &amp;nbsp;-fPIC -DPIC -MT rrdcached-
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rrd_daemon.o -MD -MP -MF &amp;quot;.deps/rrdcached-rrd_daemon.Tpo&amp;quot; -c -o
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rrdcached-rrd_daemon.o `test -f 'rrd_daemon.c' || echo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; './'`rrd_daemon.c; \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; then mv -f &amp;quot;.deps/rrdcached-rrd_daemon.Tpo&amp;quot; &amp;quot;.deps/rrdcached-
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rrd_daemon.Po&amp;quot;; else rm -f &amp;quot;.deps/rrdcached-rrd_daemon.Tpo&amp;quot;; exit 1; fi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; rrd_daemon.c: In function `flush_old_values':
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; rrd_daemon.c:822: error: void value not ignored as it ought to be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; rrd_daemon.c: In function `handle_request_forget':
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; rrd_daemon.c:1271: error: void value not ignored as it ought to be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; This is on the 1.4.2 code, line 822 is:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; assert( g_tree_remove(cache_tree, cfd.keys[k]) == TRUE );
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Line 1271 is:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; found = g_tree_remove(cache_tree, file);
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; In version 2.4.17 g_tree_remove returns void, in version 2.8 and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; later this changes to Boolean. Function is used once to assert, I think
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I can just patch that out to not check for TRUE and assert. But the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; other location at 1271 wants to do something based on the return. Any
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; suggestion if I can patch out the journal_write?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; do you need rrd_cached ? I thought you were doing clients ... they
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; do not need it ... just don't compile rrd_cached.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;No I don't need it, what is the easiest way of disabling the compile of it?
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26398626</id>
	<title>Re: rrdtool 1.4.x without graphing support?</title>
	<published>2009-11-17T14:07:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-17T14:07:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tobias Oetiker-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Ulf,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Today Ulf Zimmermann wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I am right now looking for librrd, including rrdcached (as
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; client) to be used for collectd. You wrote above that cached uses
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; glib?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; yes cached uses it, but only on the server ... clients do not use
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; cached ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Ok, I will patch out the check for it in configure.ac for now
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I do not see an option to specific not rrd_daemon, so after removing the glib check in configure.ac, I added still CPPFLAGS to the configure for it to find the include files of the older glib 2.4.17, as otherwise the compile of rrd_daemon.c complains about all the glib includes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This results still into two errors:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DLOCALEDIR=&amp;quot;\&amp;quot;/home/ulf/tmp4/testinstall/share/locale\&amp;quot;&amp;quot; -DVERSION='&amp;quot;1.4.2&amp;quot;' -DLOCALSTATEDIR='&amp;quot;/home/ulf/tmp4/testinstall/var&amp;quot;' -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -g -O2 -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -std=c99 -pedantic -Wundef -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wold-style-definition -W &amp;nbsp;-fPIC -DPIC -g -O2 -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -std=c99 -pedantic -Wundef -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wold-style-definition -W &amp;nbsp;-fPIC -DPIC -MT rrdcached-rrd_daemon.o -MD -MP -MF &amp;quot;.deps/rrdcached-rrd_daemon.Tpo&amp;quot; -c -o rrdcached-rrd_daemon.o `test -f 'rrd_daemon.c' || echo './'`rrd_daemon.c; \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; then mv -f &amp;quot;.deps/rrdcached-rrd_daemon.Tpo&amp;quot; &amp;quot;.deps/rrdcached-rrd_daemon.Po&amp;quot;; else rm -f &amp;quot;.deps/rrdcached-rrd_daemon.Tpo&amp;quot;; exit 1; fi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rrd_daemon.c: In function `flush_old_values':
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rrd_daemon.c:822: error: void value not ignored as it ought to be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rrd_daemon.c: In function `handle_request_forget':
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; rrd_daemon.c:1271: error: void value not ignored as it ought to be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This is on the 1.4.2 code, line 822 is:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; assert( g_tree_remove(cache_tree, cfd.keys[k]) == TRUE );
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Line 1271 is:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; found = g_tree_remove(cache_tree, file);
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In version 2.4.17 g_tree_remove returns void, in version 2.8 and later this changes to Boolean. Function is used once to assert, I think I can just patch that out to not check for TRUE and assert. But the other location at 1271 wants to do something based on the return. Any suggestion if I can patch out the journal_write?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;do you need rrd_cached ? I thought you were doing clients ... they
&lt;br&gt;do not need it ... just don't compile rrd_cached.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
&lt;br&gt;tobi
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26398516</id>
	<title>Re: Debugging graph smoothing or bad data samples? interpolation bug?</title>
	<published>2009-11-17T14:00:00Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-17T14:00:00Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Marc MERLIN-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:25:48PM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Marc,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Today Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 06:50:40AM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Hi Marc,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Does that make any sense to you?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; not entirely, I can only say that irregular data arrival times are
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; rrdtools forte ... have you tried to write the data into a logfile
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; (including the timestamp) and then recreate the phaenomenon by hand ?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I have all the data in a logfile already, this is where I read it from :)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; (script writes to logfile, cacti polls logfile from cron and feeds to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; rrdtool).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I have another script that will dump the entire logfile, generate a log list
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; of rrdtool update statements and I can recreate the entire rrd from scratch
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; after erasing it and replaying all the events.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ah ... in that case it is clear ... sometimes, you have one update
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in the file and sometimes two by the time cacti comes around ...a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; very bad case of jitter ... you should realy make it so that cacti
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; can trigger the data accqusition ...
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mmmh, I see what you mean. Yes, now that I think about it, in a bad case
&lt;br&gt;scenario, the cacti poller could hit a race condition and get the next sample
&lt;br&gt;one period early, and see the same sample again.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That must be what happened, thanks for pointing it out to me.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 04:33:47PM -0500, Kevin P. Foote wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Alternative in line w/Tobi.. scrap cacti (unless you really use it for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; other things) and move to using your (obvious) scriptability to update
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the RRD on your interval. Then graph with something like drraw which 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; focuses on the graph not the acquisition of the data AND the graph.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, I do use cacti for being able to generate graphs on the fly and zoom
&lt;br&gt;in/out with a few mouse clicks. It's quite nice for that.
&lt;br&gt;See:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://marc.merlins.org/perso/solar/2009-11.html#Brand-One-Powermeter_-Solar-and-Power-Monitoring-with-Cacti-and-Real-Time-PG_E-Time-of-Use-price-calculation&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://marc.merlins.org/perso/solar/2009-11.html#Brand-One-Powermeter_-Solar-and-Power-Monitoring-with-Cacti-and-Real-Time-PG_E-Time-of-Use-price-calculation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;All the graphs that you see, you can select a range with the mouse and zoom
&lt;br&gt;in or zoom out with right mouse click.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All that said, cacti has an option not to update the rrd itself and let me
&lt;br&gt;do it myself. This is likely the road I'll take to fix this race condition
&lt;br&gt;problem.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the answers,
&lt;br&gt;Marc
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26398430</id>
	<title>Re: rrdtool 1.4.x without graphing support?</title>
	<published>2009-11-17T13:52:48Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-17T13:52:48Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ulf Zimmermann-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; I am right now looking for librrd, including rrdcached (as
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; client) to be used for collectd. You wrote above that cached uses
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; glib?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; yes cached uses it, but only on the server ... clients do not use
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; cached ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ok, I will patch out the check for it in configure.ac for now
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do not see an option to specific not rrd_daemon, so after removing the glib check in configure.ac, I added still CPPFLAGS to the configure for it to find the include files of the older glib 2.4.17, as otherwise the compile of rrd_daemon.c complains about all the glib includes.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This results still into two errors:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DLOCALEDIR=&amp;quot;\&amp;quot;/home/ulf/tmp4/testinstall/share/locale\&amp;quot;&amp;quot; -DVERSION='&amp;quot;1.4.2&amp;quot;' -DLOCALSTATEDIR='&amp;quot;/home/ulf/tmp4/testinstall/var&amp;quot;' -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -g -O2 -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -std=c99 -pedantic -Wundef -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wold-style-definition -W &amp;nbsp;-fPIC -DPIC -g -O2 -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -std=c99 -pedantic -Wundef -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wold-style-definition -W &amp;nbsp;-fPIC -DPIC -MT rrdcached-rrd_daemon.o -MD -MP -MF &amp;quot;.deps/rrdcached-rrd_daemon.Tpo&amp;quot; -c -o rrdcached-rrd_daemon.o `test -f 'rrd_daemon.c' || echo './'`rrd_daemon.c; \
&lt;br&gt;then mv -f &amp;quot;.deps/rrdcached-rrd_daemon.Tpo&amp;quot; &amp;quot;.deps/rrdcached-rrd_daemon.Po&amp;quot;; else rm -f &amp;quot;.deps/rrdcached-rrd_daemon.Tpo&amp;quot;; exit 1; fi
&lt;br&gt;rrd_daemon.c: In function `flush_old_values':
&lt;br&gt;rrd_daemon.c:822: error: void value not ignored as it ought to be
&lt;br&gt;rrd_daemon.c: In function `handle_request_forget':
&lt;br&gt;rrd_daemon.c:1271: error: void value not ignored as it ought to be
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is on the 1.4.2 code, line 822 is:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; assert( g_tree_remove(cache_tree, cfd.keys[k]) == TRUE );
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Line 1271 is:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; found = g_tree_remove(cache_tree, file);
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In version 2.4.17 g_tree_remove returns void, in version 2.8 and later this changes to Boolean. Function is used once to assert, I think I can just patch that out to not check for TRUE and assert. But the other location at 1271 wants to do something based on the return. Any suggestion if I can patch out the journal_write?
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	<title>Re: Debugging graph smoothing or bad data samples? interpolation bug?</title>
	<published>2009-11-17T13:33:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-17T13:33:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Kevin P. Foote</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Alternative in line w/Tobi.. scrap cacti (unless you really use it for
&lt;br&gt;other things) and move to using your (obvious) scriptability to update
&lt;br&gt;the RRD on your interval. Then graph with something like drraw which 
&lt;br&gt;focuses on the graph not the acquisition of the data AND the graph.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;------
&lt;br&gt;thanks
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; kevin.foote
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; Hi Marc,
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; Today Marc MERLIN wrote:
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 06:50:40AM +0100, Tobias Oetiker wrote:
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Hi Marc,
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; Does that make any sense to you?
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; not entirely, I can only say that irregular data arrival times are
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; rrdtools forte ... have you tried to write the data into a logfile
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; (including the timestamp) and then recreate the phaenomenon by hand ?
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I have all the data in a logfile already, this is where I read it from :)
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; (script writes to logfile, cacti polls logfile from cron and feeds to
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; rrdtool).
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I have another script that will dump the entire logfile, generate a log list
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; of rrdtool update statements and I can recreate the entire rrd from scratch
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; after erasing it and replaying all the events.
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; ah ... in that case it is clear ... sometimes, you have one update
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; in the file and sometimes two by the time cacti comes around ...a
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; very bad case of jitter ... you should realy make it so that cacti
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; can trigger the data accqusition ...
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; cheers
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; tobi
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Is that what you meant?
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; If so, it'll fix it for sure, the data looks good, but of course I won't be
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; exercising the same code in rrdtool update since the rebuild way recreates
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; the rrd by sending time/data tuples that are all exactly 2mn apart.
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I'm not too sure how else I can recreate whatever may have happened here.
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Can you explain in more details what you had in mind?
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Marc
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; -- 
&lt;br&gt;-&amp;gt; Tobi Oetiker, OETIKER+PARTNER AG, Aarweg 15 CH-4600 Olten, Switzerland
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