Re: [Cooker] New printing system

> Major Paine escreveu:
>> Friday 08 August 2008 23:26:00 kirjutas Tiago Salem Herrmann:
>>  
>>> Major Paine wrote:
>>>    
>>>> Friday 08 August 2008 21:10:34 kirjutas Youp3:
>>>>      
>>>>> 2008/8/8 Tiago Salem Herrmann <salem@...>:
>>>>>        
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> one of our plans for 2009.0 was to find a replacement for
>>>>>> printerdrake.
>>>>>> The most obvious choice was to use system-config-printer, as it is
>>>>>> still under development and is the default tool in other
>>>>>> distributions
>>>>>> as well. Unfortunately it is not easy to replace a tool that is
>>>>>> present
>>>>>> in the distro for a long time, because it has a good integration
>>>>>> and a
>>>>>> lot of workarounds for many kinds of printers.
>>>>>> I've been working basically in two packages to try to provide a new
>>>>>> printing system,
>>>>>> they are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) system-config-printer: provides the interface to add, remove,
>>>>>> share
>>>>>> printers. Provides
>>>>>> a system tray applet which notifies the user about printing
>>>>>> events and
>>>>>> eventually asks the user to install required packages or missing
>>>>>> firmware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) hal-cups-utils: in charge of detecting new printers, notify the
>>>>>> applet to let the
>>>>>> user know about what is going on, choose the better printer
>>>>>> model, and
>>>>>> so on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me and Vanessa have tested some printers and it seems that it is
>>>>>> working as expected,
>>>>>> but as we can't have all the supported printers to test if
>>>>>> everything
>>>>>> is ok, it would be great if we could have some help from everybody.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "urpmi system-config-printer" should be enough to disable the old
>>>>>> printer detection system
>>>>>> and enable the new one. (don't forget to restart the session)
>>>>>> Usb printers are detected when you plug them in the system. To add
>>>>>> parallel printers
>>>>>> you must open system-config-printer and do the work manually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some strings are not translated, both because they are not
>>>>>> translated
>>>>>> in upstream and
>>>>>> because some strings were introduced only in mandriva version. I
>>>>>> plan
>>>>>> to put the po files
>>>>>> in the svn soft (just like it is done in printerdrake), so then the
>>>>>> contributors can
>>>>>> help on translation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a while, printerdrake and system-config-printer can coexist.
>>>>>> If we decide that the new printing system is ok, we can drop
>>>>>> printerdrake (or provide it in contrib?),
>>>>>> and if we decide it is too early to replace printerdrake by
>>>>>> system-config-printer, we can drop
>>>>>> system-config-printer and go back to the place where we were before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Tiago Salem Herrmann
>>>>>>          
>>>>> Hello
>>>>>
>>>>> It seem to work fined with my HP Photosmart 3210.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I see a major regression with this tool compared to printerdrake.
>>>>> There is no auto detection system for network printer. I need to
>>>>> enter
>>>>> manually printer IP address. Printerdrake can auto detect my printer.
>>>>> So yet printerdrake is more user-friendly for network printers.
>>>>>        
>>>> Strange, it finds all my network printers (samsung's kyoceras hp)
>>>> and it
>>>> does it a lot quicker then printerdrake but when it lets to chose
>>>> driver
>>>> there are so few options, like no samsung and kyocera :)
>>>>      
>>> hmm, do you have task-printing-misc installed?
>>> what happens if you install it, and then try to reconfigure your
>>> printer?
>>>    
>>
>> In my case it wasn't I urpmi'ed it and now I can see all of them. It
>> seems that the system-config-printer doesn't require task-printing-misc
>>  
> Yes, it does not require it because it should be installed on demand.
> I believe it is working for local printers only. I'll try to find a
> network printer here to fix this.
> Thanks.
>