Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] [Using Sakai] Arbitrary Tables/Spread sheets in Sakai

Hi Mustansar,

I’m not sure how different the tool would be from Google Spreadsheets and Forms, but I can definitely see some value in your proposition. It would be great to have that kind of capability embedded in Sakai. I’d love it to be able to support versioning, and individual user and group awareness (certain lines or columns would not be visible to certain users, changeable by permission).

Unfortunately, we don’t have the resources to devote to it, but I’d be glad to be a part of a high-level design team. I’m pretty good with a tablet PC ;-)

Dear All,
             I would like  to know if there has been any interest in sakai user/developer community towards having a tool where instructors may want students to
add data. This data may be exported into spreadsheets for further analysis.
For instance an  instructor generates a table where students put their data found out through surveys and or experiments. Once many users have added data over a certain period of time then tables in question can be exported in CSV or similar format. Perhaps that data can be fed into  some data bank  or into some Master Data Management scheme. 
If there is already a similar project under development please send me a link.
Looking forward to hear from sakai community for feedback/ideas/thoughts/suggestions/critique.
Best Regards,
Mustansar Mehmood

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Mustansar Mehmood

Educational System Developer& Integrator

Information Technology  

6100 Main St. MS 119

Houston Texas 77005

Phone:(713)348-2523

Fax  :(713)348 6099 

email:mustansar@...

I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when,you  looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated. 

    -- Poul Anderson 

We don’t use Samigo Tests and Quizzes tool here at IU, but I believe it allows individual users to make multiple submissions. You could construct a survey in Samigo to allow students to input the data and then use the export feature to output to an Excel file.  Another option would be to use the OSP forms and reports tools for data collection and reporting, but there’s a fairly steep learning curve for that.

Lynn

Hi Mustansar,

I’m not sure how different the tool would be from Google Spreadsheets and Forms, but I can definitely see some value in your proposition. It would be great to have that kind of capability embedded in Sakai. I’d love it to be able to support versioning, and individual user and group awareness (certain lines or columns would not be visible to certain users, changeable by permission).

Unfortunately, we don’t have the resources to devote to it, but I’d be glad to be a part of a high-level design team. I’m pretty good with a tablet PC ;-)

Dear All,
             I would like  to know if there has been any interest in sakai user/developer community towards having a tool where instructors may want students to
add data. This data may be exported into spreadsheets for further analysis.
For instance an  instructor generates a table where students put their data found out through surveys and or experiments. Once many users have added data over a certain period of time then tables in question can be exported in CSV or similar format. Perhaps that data can be fed into  some data bank  or into some Master Data Management scheme. 
If there is already a similar project under development please send me a link.
Looking forward to hear from sakai community for feedback/ideas/thoughts/suggestions/critique.
Best Regards,
Mustansar Mehmood

 -- 

Mustansar Mehmood

Educational System Developer& Integrator

Information Technology  

6100 Main St. MS 119

Houston Texas 77005

Phone:(713)348-2523

Fax  :(713)348 6099 

email:mustansar@...

I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when,you  looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated. 

    -- Poul Anderson 

Hi Lynn,

Thanks for describing these two valid workarounds. Those are ways to gather data right here right now, so let’s spread the word!

In my mind though, a spreadsheet tool would be less like a quiz or a survey, and more like a wiki. The permission scheme would then come into play if necessary, but the default would be open, with version control.

We don’t use Samigo Tests and Quizzes tool here at IU, but I believe it allows individual users to make multiple submissions. You could construct a survey in Samigo to allow students to input the data and then use the export feature to output to an Excel file.  Another option would be to use the OSP forms and reports tools for data collection and reporting, but there’s a fairly steep learning curve for that.

Lynn

Hi Mustansar,

I’m not sure how different the tool would be from Google Spreadsheets and Forms, but I can definitely see some value in your proposition. It would be great to have that kind of capability embedded in Sakai. I’d love it to be able to support versioning, and individual user and group awareness (certain lines or columns would not be visible to certain users, changeable by permission).

Unfortunately, we don’t have the resources to devote to it, but I’d be glad to be a part of a high-level design team. I’m pretty good with a tablet PC ;-)

Dear All,
             I would like  to know if there has been any interest in sakai user/developer community towards having a tool where instructors may want students to
add data. This data may be exported into spreadsheets for further analysis.
For instance an  instructor generates a table where students put their data found out through surveys and or experiments. Once many users have added data over a certain period of time then tables in question can be exported in CSV or similar format. Perhaps that data can be fed into  some data bank  or into some Master Data Management scheme. 
If there is already a similar project under development please send me a link.
Looking forward to hear from sakai community for feedback/ideas/thoughts/suggestions/critique.
Best Regards,
Mustansar Mehmood

 -- 

Mustansar Mehmood

Educational System Developer& Integrator

Information Technology  

6100 Main St. MS 119

Houston Texas 77005

Phone:(713)348-2523

Fax  :(713)348 6099 

email:mustansar@...

I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when,you  looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated. 

    -- Poul Anderson 

I agree that they are not optimal solutions—just workarounds within the current toolset.  We could definitely use more flexible and powerful tools for collecting, manipulating, and viewing structured data of varying types.

Lynn

Hi Lynn,

Thanks for describing these two valid workarounds. Those are ways to gather data right here right now, so let’s spread the word!

In my mind though, a spreadsheet tool would be less like a quiz or a survey, and more like a wiki. The permission scheme would then come into play if necessary, but the default would be open, with version control.

We don’t use Samigo Tests and Quizzes tool here at IU, but I believe it allows individual users to make multiple submissions. You could construct a survey in Samigo to allow students to input the data and then use the export feature to output to an Excel file.  Another option would be to use the OSP forms and reports tools for data collection and reporting, but there’s a fairly steep learning curve for that.

Lynn

Hi Mustansar,

I’m not sure how different the tool would be from Google Spreadsheets and Forms, but I can definitely see some value in your proposition. It would be great to have that kind of capability embedded in Sakai. I’d love it to be able to support versioning, and individual user and group awareness (certain lines or columns would not be visible to certain users, changeable by permission).

Unfortunately, we don’t have the resources to devote to it, but I’d be glad to be a part of a high-level design team. I’m pretty good with a tablet PC ;-)

Dear All,
             I would like  to know if there has been any interest in sakai user/developer community towards having a tool where instructors may want students to
add data. This data may be exported into spreadsheets for further analysis.
For instance an  instructor generates a table where students put their data found out through surveys and or experiments. Once many users have added data over a certain period of time then tables in question can be exported in CSV or similar format. Perhaps that data can be fed into  some data bank  or into some Master Data Management scheme. 
If there is already a similar project under development please send me a link.
Looking forward to hear from sakai community for feedback/ideas/thoughts/suggestions/critique.
Best Regards,
Mustansar Mehmood

 -- 

Mustansar Mehmood

Educational System Developer& Integrator

Information Technology  

6100 Main St. MS 119

Houston Texas 77005

Phone:(713)348-2523

Fax  :(713)348 6099 

email:mustansar@...

I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when,you  looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated. 

    -- Poul Anderson 

Hi There,

I have tried using Respondus 4 ,But it does not seem to work .I'm stucked with thousands of questions in Moodle and I want to take them to Sakai.What do I start I'm desperate now guys.I realy,realy need to move them asap.

Kind Regards,

Calvin Mutsileng.

Hi Lynn,

Thanks for describing these two valid workarounds. Those are ways to gather data right here right now, so let's spread the word!

In my mind though, a spreadsheet tool would be less like a quiz or a survey, and more like a wiki. The permission scheme would then come into play if necessary, but the default would be open, with version control.

We don't use Samigo Tests and Quizzes tool here at IU, but I believe it allows individual users to make multiple submissions. You could construct a survey in Samigo to allow students to input the data and then use the export feature to output to an Excel file.  Another option would be to use the OSP forms and reports tools for data collection and reporting, but there's a fairly steep learning curve for that.

Lynn

Hi Mustansar,

I'm not sure how different the tool would be from Google Spreadsheets and Forms, but I can definitely see some value in your proposition. It would be great to have that kind of capability embedded in Sakai. I'd love it to be able to support versioning, and individual user and group awareness (certain lines or columns would not be visible to certain users, changeable by permission).

Unfortunately, we don't have the resources to devote to it, but I'd be glad to be a part of a high-level design team. I'm pretty good with a tablet PC ;-)

Dear All,
             I would like  to know if there has been any interest in sakai user/developer community towards having a tool where instructors may want students to
add data. This data may be exported into spreadsheets for further analysis.
For instance an  instructor generates a table where students put their data found out through surveys and or experiments. Once many users have added data over a certain period of time then tables in question can be exported in CSV or similar format. Perhaps that data can be fed into  some data bank  or into some Master Data Management scheme. 
If there is already a similar project under development please send me a link.
Looking forward to hear from sakai community for feedback/ideas/thoughts/suggestions/critique.
Best Regards,
Mustansar Mehmood

 -- 

Mustansar Mehmood

Educational System Developer& Integrator

Information Technology  

6100 Main St. MS 119

Houston Texas 77005

Phone:(713)348-2523

Fax  :(713)348 6099 

email:mustansar@...

I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when,you  looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated. 

    -- Poul Anderson