Hi Marshall et al,
Berkeley has been leading an effort to allow for group creation in Sakai 3. The use case you mention is high on our priority list. In fact, I've been playing with some designs that will meet the first half of your use case. The idea of assigning groups a discussion automatically won't be something we tackle right away but could easily be added later. I'll be sure to capture this on our use case page (under referencing groups):
http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/GROUPS/Groups+Use+Case+Matrix.
I'm also wondering if you could add some detail and context to the use case to turn it into a scenario? You can see some examples where we are capturing scenarios at:
http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=16220197. Basically I'm looking for a specific instance of this use case that includes context and details. These become invaluable in the design process and I'd like to use yours (or at least the first part as part of the design process). Email is fine and I can add it to the page or feel feel to add it to the page under Student Project Groups (and please let me know).
I am in the midst of making some pretty significant changes to the design but will share a link as soon as you can see how we envision the random group creation happening.
Thanks for sharing! It's good to hear our priorities are in line with others in the community.
-Daphne
On Oct 1, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Josh Baron wrote:
Marsh,
I don't believe there is a way to automate those processes although one might be able to write some code to do it (but that would require modifying Sakai which may not be the best direction to take on your own). I can think of a few ways to use other tools to create a random list of students and then use that to create the groups but that would just be a workaround...and probably not one that the faculty would receive all that well.
I know this won't help you in the short-term, but I think the concept of creating random groups and automatically creating discussion forums for them sounds like a great idea. You may wish to post these as feature requests in the Sakai JIRA system as there is current development work underway with both the group tool as well as forums. If you need help with how to get your ideas out for others in the community to consider in future development work just let me know.
Maybe others will have better ideas than me.
Josh
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Hello,
Our university recently converted from WebCT to Sakai. WebCT has the ability to assign students to groups randomly and to create a discussion topic (equivalent to a forum) automatically for each group created this way. The instructor can select either the number of groups or the number of students per group, and WebCT does the rest.
In Sakai, I know one can assign students to groups manually and then, also manually, create forums for each group. But is there any way to get automatic random assignment and forum creation in Sakai?
Thanks.
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