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Re: [IAB] Comprehensive review of draft-iab-rfc-editor-model-v2-02 - RSOC

by Bernard Aboba-6 :: Rate this Message:

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Some comments below.

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:34 PM, John C Klensin <john%2Brfc@...> wrote:


--On Monday, July 11, 2011 09:43 +1200 Brian E Carpenter
<brian.e.carpenter@...> wrote:

>
> I think this conundrum explains why I don't think that the
> "IAB Program" model is the correct one. I haven't deviated
> from the view I formed in Beijing that the RSOC should be a
> stand-alone committee within the RFC Editor function,
> collaborating with the IAOC and reporting to the IAB (and the
> community) as needed. I see nothing in the IAB charter to
> forbid this.

Brian,

Nothing in the IAB Charter (or anywhere else) forbids it.  But
it changes the reporting relationships in at least one and
probably two fundamental ways:

(1) "Reporting" is ambiguous and "collaborating" isn't much
better.  If you mean "sends periodic reports to the IAB but has
primary responsibility to the IAOC _and_ the RSOC is more than
just advisory, it changes the primary, line responsibility of
the RFC Editor from the IAB to the IAOC.   That change may be
formal, or just in practice, but, if the RSE is responsible to
the RSOC and the RSOC is responsible to the IAOC, then we've
made a rather basic change.   If you mean something else, please
explain _exactly_ what you are talking about.

[BA] I don't believe that the intent is for the  RSOC to have "responsibility" to the IAOC.
The RSOC's responsibility is to the IAB. 
 

(2) Regardless of how much it dilutes or confuses it (or permits
others to do that), it seems to be that neither the Charter nor
precedents going back to pre-IETF permit the IAB to shed the
responsibility for the RFC Editor.  Unless it is essentially
going to blow that responsibility off, organizing the RSOC as I
think you are suggesting then requires that the IAB (as a whole
or through some internal committee) has to actively watch the
whole situation rather than, e.g., delegating that to
RSOC-as-a-Program.  

[BA] Under RFC 2850, the IAB is responsible for the RFC Editor, and since the document does not update RFC 2850, that responsibility remains.   The "RFC Editor Program" consists of one or more IAB members (the internal group) that are responsible for "actively watching" the situation on behalf of the IAB, as well as the non-IAB RSOC members.   The document could perhaps do a better job of making this clear.
 

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