Re: [Kde-cvs-announce] KDE 4.0 Release Branch

[David Jarvie-4]

On Friday 04 January 2008 09:14:21 Dirk Mueller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> a KDE 4.0 Release branch has been created:
>
> svn+ssh|https://svn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0

I notice that kdepim has been included in the branch, even though it's not
supposed to be released with 4.0 (unless I missed something).

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Op vrijdag 4 januari 2008 13:25 schreef u:
> On Friday 04 January 2008 09:14:21 Dirk Mueller wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > a KDE 4.0 Release branch has been created:
> >
> > svn+ssh|https://svn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0
>
> I notice that kdepim has been included in the branch, even though it's not
> supposed to be released with 4.0 (unless I missed something).

So you don't want to be enabled for any of the 4.0.x releases either?
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[David Jarvie-4]

On Friday 04 January 2008 12:29:20 Tom Albers wrote:

> Op vrijdag 4 januari 2008 13:25 schreef u:
> > On Friday 04 January 2008 09:14:21 Dirk Mueller wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > a KDE 4.0 Release branch has been created:
> > >
> > > svn+ssh|https://svn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0
> >
> > I notice that kdepim has been included in the branch, even though it's
> > not supposed to be released with 4.0 (unless I missed something).
>
> So you don't want to be enabled for any of the 4.0.x releases either?

I'm simply observing that kdepim was as far as I understood not to be
included. I'm okay with KAlarm being included, but is KMail, for example,
ready yet?

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David Jarvie schrieb:

> On Friday 04 January 2008 12:29:20 Tom Albers wrote:
>  
>> Op vrijdag 4 januari 2008 13:25 schreef u:
>>    
>>> On Friday 04 January 2008 09:14:21 Dirk Mueller wrote:
>>>      
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> a KDE 4.0 Release branch has been created:
>>>>
>>>> svn+ssh|https://svn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0
>>>>        
>>> I notice that kdepim has been included in the branch, even though it's
>>> not supposed to be released with 4.0 (unless I missed something).
>>>      
>> So you don't want to be enabled for any of the 4.0.x releases either?
>>    
>
> I'm simply observing that kdepim was as far as I understood not to be
> included. I'm okay with KAlarm being included, but is KMail, for example,
> ready yet?
>
>  

Hi,

KMobileTools however is far from being in a usable state. So please
exclude it from 4.0.x releases.

Best regards
Matthias
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[Allen Winter]

On Friday 04 January 2008 10:19:27 Matthias Lechner wrote:

> David Jarvie schrieb:
> > On Friday 04 January 2008 12:29:20 Tom Albers wrote:
> >> Op vrijdag 4 januari 2008 13:25 schreef u:
> >>> On Friday 04 January 2008 09:14:21 Dirk Mueller wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> a KDE 4.0 Release branch has been created:
> >>>>
> >>>> svn+ssh|https://svn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0
> >>>
> >>> I notice that kdepim has been included in the branch, even though it's
> >>> not supposed to be released with 4.0 (unless I missed something).
> >>
> >> So you don't want to be enabled for any of the 4.0.x releases either?
> >
> > I'm simply observing that kdepim was as far as I understood not to be
> > included. I'm okay with KAlarm being included, but is KMail, for example,
> > ready yet?
>
> Hi,
>
> KMobileTools however is far from being in a usable state. So please
> exclude it from 4.0.x releases.
>

There will be no kdepim 4.0.x releases, so don't worry about this.

Let's try to make a nice kdepim for 4.1.


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[Thorsten Staerk]

On Friday 04 January 2008 10:25:13 Allen Winter wrote:

> On Friday 04 January 2008 10:19:27 Matthias Lechner wrote:
> > David Jarvie schrieb:
> > > On Friday 04 January 2008 12:29:20 Tom Albers wrote:
> > >> Op vrijdag 4 januari 2008 13:25 schreef u:
> > >>> On Friday 04 January 2008 09:14:21 Dirk Mueller wrote:
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> a KDE 4.0 Release branch has been created:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> svn+ssh|https://svn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0
> > >>>
> > >>> I notice that kdepim has been included in the branch, even though
> > >>> it's not supposed to be released with 4.0 (unless I missed
> > >>> something).
> > >>
> > >> So you don't want to be enabled for any of the 4.0.x releases either?
> > >
> > > I'm simply observing that kdepim was as far as I understood not to be
> > > included. I'm okay with KAlarm being included, but is KMail, for
> > > example, ready yet?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > KMobileTools however is far from being in a usable state. So please
> > exclude it from 4.0.x releases.
>
> There will be no kdepim 4.0.x releases, so don't worry about this.
>
> Let's try to make a nice kdepim for 4.1.

Does this mean we are allowed to do i18n changes to KDEPIM trunk ?
>
>
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[Allen Winter]

On Friday 04 January 2008 20:15:53 Thorsten Staerk wrote:

> On Friday 04 January 2008 10:25:13 Allen Winter wrote:
> > On Friday 04 January 2008 10:19:27 Matthias Lechner wrote:
> > > David Jarvie schrieb:
> > > > On Friday 04 January 2008 12:29:20 Tom Albers wrote:
> > > >> Op vrijdag 4 januari 2008 13:25 schreef u:
> > > >>> On Friday 04 January 2008 09:14:21 Dirk Mueller wrote:
> > > >>>> Hi,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> a KDE 4.0 Release branch has been created:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> svn+ssh|https://svn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I notice that kdepim has been included in the branch, even though
> > > >>> it's not supposed to be released with 4.0 (unless I missed
> > > >>> something).
> > > >>
> > > >> So you don't want to be enabled for any of the 4.0.x releases
> > > >> either?
> > > >
> > > > I'm simply observing that kdepim was as far as I understood not to be
> > > > included. I'm okay with KAlarm being included, but is KMail, for
> > > > example, ready yet?
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > KMobileTools however is far from being in a usable state. So please
> > > exclude it from 4.0.x releases.
> >
> > There will be no kdepim 4.0.x releases, so don't worry about this.
> >
> > Let's try to make a nice kdepim for 4.1.
>
> Does this mean we are allowed to do i18n changes to KDEPIM trunk ?
>

Yep

We can also:
  add new features
  merge stuff from kdab branches
  add to our API
  move libs into kdepimlibs (eg. libakonadi)
  yay!

 
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[Ingo Klöcker]

On Sunday 06 January 2008, Allen Winter wrote:

> On Friday 04 January 2008 20:15:53 Thorsten Staerk wrote:
> > On Friday 04 January 2008 10:25:13 Allen Winter wrote:
> > > On Friday 04 January 2008 10:19:27 Matthias Lechner wrote:
> > > > David Jarvie schrieb:
> > > > > On Friday 04 January 2008 12:29:20 Tom Albers wrote:
> > > > >> Op vrijdag 4 januari 2008 13:25 schreef u:
> > > > >>> On Friday 04 January 2008 09:14:21 Dirk Mueller wrote:
> > > > >>>> Hi,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> a KDE 4.0 Release branch has been created:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> svn+ssh|https://svn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I notice that kdepim has been included in the branch, even
> > > > >>> though it's not supposed to be released with 4.0 (unless I
> > > > >>> missed something).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So you don't want to be enabled for any of the 4.0.x
> > > > >> releases either?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm simply observing that kdepim was as far as I understood
> > > > > not to be included. I'm okay with KAlarm being included, but
> > > > > is KMail, for example, ready yet?
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > KMobileTools however is far from being in a usable state. So
> > > > please exclude it from 4.0.x releases.
> > >
> > > There will be no kdepim 4.0.x releases, so don't worry about
> > > this.
> > >
> > > Let's try to make a nice kdepim for 4.1.
> >
> > Does this mean we are allowed to do i18n changes to KDEPIM trunk ?
>
> Yep
>
> We can also:
>   add new features
>   merge stuff from kdab branches
>   add to our API
>   move libs into kdepimlibs (eg. libakonadi)
>   yay!

But we SHOULD ([1]) keep trunk/kdepimlibs and trunk/kdepim compatible
with branches/KDE/4.0/kdelibs (and kdebase) because developing against
stable libraries is much easier and is the only option for people who
do not want to recompile all of KDE everytime they want to spend a
couple of hours on kdepim.


Regards,
Ingo

[1] http://faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2119.html


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[Kevin Krammer]

On Sunday 06 January 2008, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Sunday 06 January 2008, Allen Winter wrote:

> > We can also:
> >   add new features
> >   merge stuff from kdab branches
> >   add to our API
> >   move libs into kdepimlibs (eg. libakonadi)
> >   yay!
>
> But we SHOULD ([1]) keep trunk/kdepimlibs and trunk/kdepim compatible
> with branches/KDE/4.0/kdelibs (and kdebase) because developing against
> stable libraries is much easier and is the only option for people who
> do not want to recompile all of KDE everytime they want to spend a
> couple of hours on kdepim.

I agree.
Actually I think we are in a different state than the usual time between two
minor releases since we (KDE PIM) weren't part of 4.0, so IMHO it is more
like having our 4.0 period extended by a few months.

Given that the 4.0 release has been a bit "incomplete" I anticipate that the
target date for 4.1 will be closer than usual, e.g. probably more like 6
months rather then the usual 8-9 months.

Do we have a plan regarding Akonadi?
I mean both as in making it public API as in moving libakonadi to kdepimlibs
and as in porting/replacing the main application's data access layers.

Cheers,
Kevin

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