Re: [m2book-dev] Book Title Ideas

[brettporter]

I agree.

I vote for "Better Builds with Maven". You can get successful builds
from something really unmanageable, and we aren't really delving
"inside" Maven.

I agree 2.0 should be out of the title, but think it should be in the
subtitle or a short writeoff to avoid confusion.

How about

"Better Builds with Maven"
Your Guide to Maven 2.0

- Brett

Natalie Burdick wrote:

> Agreed on all points but "Taming Maven" - this has quite a negative connotation, i.e., that Maven is not manageable/usable w/out training doco
>
> So, can we vote on following:
>
> Inside Maven
> Better Builds with Maven
> Successful Builds with Maven
>
> then for subtitles if we choose Inside Maven -
>
> A/The Developer's Handbook
> A/The Build Handbook
> The  Build Guide/Guidebook
> A/The Builder's Notebook
> The How to Build Guide
>
> (note the top sub works w/ other main titles too)
>
>

[Vincent Massol]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Natalie Burdick [mailto:Natalie.Burdick@...]
> Sent: samedi 29 octobre 2005 00:08
> To: dev@...
> Subject: RE: [m2book-dev] Book Title Ideas
>
> Agreed on all points but "Taming Maven" - this has quite a negative
> connotation, i.e., that Maven is not manageable/usable w/out training doco

Exactly! This is definitely true and everyone knows it... :-)

More seriously, it means that Maven is a powerful but complex beast. Same as
you could talk about Taming Java. It doesn't mean that Java is not a nice
language. So we're only showing that we understand that using Maven can be a
complex and daunting task.

Also it has the nice meaning that we will really go into the depth of Maven
as opposed to only scratching the surface and at the end of the journey you
will feel that you control Maven and not the other way around...

It's also a little fun title. I like it.
 

> So, can we vote on following:
>
> Inside Maven
> Better Builds with Maven
> Successful Builds with Maven
>
> then for subtitles if we choose Inside Maven -
>
> A/The Developer's Handbook
> A/The Build Handbook
> The  Build Guide/Guidebook
> A/The Builder's Notebook
> The How to Build Guide

I don't like these too much but let's choose the main title first. Also, we
don't have to have a subtitle. If we have one I'd prefer something like
"Successful builds with Maven", etc.

Thanks
-Vincent
 

> >>> On 10/28/2005 at 2:12 pm, in message
> <200510282112.j9SLCbtQ025176@...>, vmassol@...
> wrote:
>
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: John Casey [mailto:jdcasey@...]
> >> Sent: vendredi 28 octobre 2005 18:11
> >> To: dev@...
> >> Subject: Re: [m2book-dev] Book Title Ideas
> >>
> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >> Hash: SHA1
> >>
> >> How about:
> >>
> >> - - "Taming Project Builds with Maven 2.0"
> >> - - "Build Successful: Using Maven 2.0"
> >>
> >> ;-)
> >
> > I like "Taming Maven 2.0" :-)
> >
> >> I also like:
> >>
> >> |>| Maven 2.0 User's Guide
> >
> > Sounds a bit boring to me...
> >
> >> |>|
> >> |>| Inside Maven 2.0
> >
> > I like this one too.
> >
> >> |>|
> >> |>| Better Builds with Maven 2.0
> >
> > Sounds good too.
> >
> > Note: We can have main title and a subtitle if we want. So we could have
> the
> > book named something like "Taming Maven" and a subtitle of "Better
> builds
> > with Maven 2.0".
> >
> > Personally I think we should avoid the mention of 2.0 in the title.
> >
> >> I think we should stay away from this one, since it looks like a
> >> compilation of website documentation...
> >>
> >> |>| The Maven 2.0 How to Guide
> >
> > Agreed.
> >
> > -Vincent

[natalie.burdick]

+1

and  -10 on Taming Maven...

As this is a Mergere doc, I will really need to stress that we don't want to introduce a product to those NOT already familiar to it in such a negative light...

>>> On 10/28/2005 at 11:06:18 pm, in message <4363115A.3000807@...>,
brett@... wrote:

> I agree.
>
> I vote for "Better Builds with Maven". You can get successful builds
> from something really unmanageable, and we aren't really delving
> "inside" Maven.
>
> I agree 2.0 should be out of the title, but think it should be in the
> subtitle or a short writeoff to avoid confusion.
>
> How about
>
> "Better Builds with Maven"
> Your Guide to Maven 2.0
>
> - Brett

[natalie.burdick]

The proposed main title for the book is "Better Builds with Maven"


Then for subtitles, following are the options:

A/The Developer's Handbook for Maven 2.0
A/The Build Handbook for Maven 2.0
The  Maven 2.0 Build Guide/Guidebook
A/The Maven 2.0 Builder's Notebook
The How to Guide for Maven 2.0

Please provide your vote before the end of the week (11/18/05) so we
can finalize * as we are doing a press release and formal announcement
around the book, and other projects * the PR firm requires a finalized
release and complete information well in advance of the announcement
date * which is 01/09/06

Thank you in advance.

N

[John Casey-5]

My preference is:

The How-To Guide for Maven 2.0

Since:

> A/The Developer's Handbook for Maven 2.0

Maven isn't just for developers.

> A/The Build Handbook for Maven 2.0
> The  Maven 2.0 Build Guide/Guidebook

We already have a title with the word 'Build(s)', so these are redundant.

> A/The Maven 2.0 Builder's Notebook

Builder isn't a well-defined role in many projects, IMO.

-john


Natalie Burdick wrote:

> The proposed main title for the book is "Better Builds with Maven"
>
>
> Then for subtitles, following are the options:
>
> A/The Developer's Handbook for Maven 2.0
> A/The Build Handbook for Maven 2.0
> The  Maven 2.0 Build Guide/Guidebook
> A/The Maven 2.0 Builder's Notebook
> The How to Guide for Maven 2.0
>
> Please provide your vote before the end of the week (11/18/05) so we
> can finalize * as we are doing a press release and formal announcement
> around the book, and other projects * the PR firm requires a finalized
> release and complete information well in advance of the announcement
> date * which is 01/09/06
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> N
>
>
>
>
>

[natalie.burdick]

+1 on the subtitle being "The How-To Guide for Maven 2.0"

>>> On 11/17/2005 at 10:43:44 am, in message <437CCF60.2050208@...>,
jdcasey@... wrote:

> My preference is:
>
> The How-To Guide for Maven 2.0
>
> Since:
>
>> A/The Developer's Handbook for Maven 2.0
>
> Maven isn't just for developers.
>
>> A/The Build Handbook for Maven 2.0
>> The  Maven 2.0 Build Guide/Guidebook
>
> We already have a title with the word 'Build(s)', so these are redundant.
>
>> A/The Maven 2.0 Builder's Notebook
>
> Builder isn't a well-defined role in many projects, IMO.
>
> -john
>
>
> Natalie Burdick wrote:
>> The proposed main title for the book is "Better Builds with Maven"
>>
>>
>> Then for subtitles, following are the options:
>>
>> A/The Developer's Handbook for Maven 2.0
>> A/The Build Handbook for Maven 2.0
>> The  Maven 2.0 Build Guide/Guidebook
>> A/The Maven 2.0 Builder's Notebook
>> The How to Guide for Maven 2.0
>>
>> Please provide your vote before the end of the week (11/18/05) so we
>> can finalize * as we are doing a press release and formal announcement
>> around the book, and other projects * the PR firm requires a finalized
>> release and complete information well in advance of the announcement
>> date * which is 01/09/06
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>>
>> N
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

[Carlos Sanchez-4]

+1 for The How-To Guide for Maven 2.0

On 11/17/05, Natalie Burdick <Natalie.Burdick@...> wrote:

> +1 on the subtitle being "The How-To Guide for Maven 2.0"
>
> >>> On 11/17/2005 at 10:43:44 am, in message <437CCF60.2050208@...>,
> jdcasey@... wrote:
> > My preference is:
> >
> > The How-To Guide for Maven 2.0
> >
> > Since:
> >
> >> A/The Developer's Handbook for Maven 2.0
> >
> > Maven isn't just for developers.
> >
> >> A/The Build Handbook for Maven 2.0
> >> The  Maven 2.0 Build Guide/Guidebook
> >
> > We already have a title with the word 'Build(s)', so these are redundant.
> >
> >> A/The Maven 2.0 Builder's Notebook
> >
> > Builder isn't a well-defined role in many projects, IMO.
> >
> > -john
> >
> >
> > Natalie Burdick wrote:
> >> The proposed main title for the book is "Better Builds with Maven"
> >>
> >>
> >> Then for subtitles, following are the options:
> >>
> >> A/The Developer's Handbook for Maven 2.0
> >> A/The Build Handbook for Maven 2.0
> >> The  Maven 2.0 Build Guide/Guidebook
> >> A/The Maven 2.0 Builder's Notebook
> >> The How to Guide for Maven 2.0
> >>
> >> Please provide your vote before the end of the week (11/18/05) so we
> >> can finalize * as we are doing a press release and formal announcement
> >> around the book, and other projects * the PR firm requires a finalized
> >> release and complete information well in advance of the announcement
> >> date * which is 01/09/06
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance.
> >>
> >> N
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

[brettporter]

I think its unanimous

Natalie Burdick wrote:

> +1 on the subtitle being "The How-To Guide for Maven 2.0"
>
>
>>>>On 11/17/2005 at 10:43:44 am, in message <437CCF60.2050208@...>,
>
> jdcasey@... wrote:
>
>>My preference is:
>>
>>The How-To Guide for Maven 2.0
>>
>>Since:
>>
>>
>>>A/The Developer's Handbook for Maven 2.0
>>
>>Maven isn't just for developers.
>>
>>
>>>A/The Build Handbook for Maven 2.0
>>>The  Maven 2.0 Build Guide/Guidebook
>>
>>We already have a title with the word 'Build(s)', so these are redundant.
>>
>>
>>>A/The Maven 2.0 Builder's Notebook
>>
>>Builder isn't a well-defined role in many projects, IMO.
>>
>>-john
>>
>>
>>Natalie Burdick wrote:
>>
>>>The proposed main title for the book is "Better Builds with Maven"
>>>
>>>
>>>Then for subtitles, following are the options:
>>>
>>>A/The Developer's Handbook for Maven 2.0
>>>A/The Build Handbook for Maven 2.0
>>>The  Maven 2.0 Build Guide/Guidebook
>>>A/The Maven 2.0 Builder's Notebook
>>>The How to Guide for Maven 2.0
>>>
>>>Please provide your vote before the end of the week (11/18/05) so we
>>>can finalize * as we are doing a press release and formal announcement
>>>around the book, and other projects * the PR firm requires a finalized
>>>release and complete information well in advance of the announcement
>>>date * which is 01/09/06
>>>
>>>Thank you in advance.
>>>
>>>N
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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