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#4254: Existing PUID not found on some sound files
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  Reporter:  jesus2099      |       Owner:  outsidecontext                                        
      Type:  bug            |      Status:  reopened                                              
  Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  Picard 0.12                                            
 Component:  Picard Tagger  |     Version:  Picard 0.11                                            
Resolution:                 |    Keywords:  picard, puid, bug, genpuid, regression, lookup, analyze
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Changes (by jesus2099):

  * status:  closed => reopened
  * resolution:  fixed =>

Comment:

 Sorry, I still regularly face this problem.
 For instance,
 [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=11388549 edit:11388549] and
 [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=11388567 edit:11388567]
 were created by manually adding the PUIDs found by genPUID inside Picard
 '''''Details…''''' window to submit them.

 [http://musicbrainz.org/show/user/?username=jesus2099 e-mail me] if you
 want some files.

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#4254: Existing PUID not found on some sound files
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  Reporter:  jesus2099      |       Owner:  outsidecontext                                        
      Type:  bug            |      Status:  reopened                                              
  Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  Picard 0.12                                            
 Component:  Picard Tagger  |     Version:  Picard 0.11                                            
Resolution:                 |    Keywords:  picard, puid, bug, genpuid, regression, lookup, analyze
        Os:  Windows XP     |     Browser:                                                        
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Comment (by paultaylor):

 Does Picard use a different mp3 decoder to genpuid , is that the problem ?

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#4254: Existing PUID not found on some sound files
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  Reporter:  jesus2099      |       Owner:  outsidecontext                                        
      Type:  bug            |      Status:  reopened                                              
  Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  Picard 0.12                                            
 Component:  Picard Tagger  |     Version:  Picard 0.11                                            
Resolution:                 |    Keywords:  picard, puid, bug, genpuid, regression, lookup, analyze
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Comment (by BrianFreud):

 paultaylor: It's using libofa, not genuid, and yes, I've found many
 hundreds of cases where libofa fails where genpuid does not.  Most often,
 they're related to one of three causes, all mp3-based: a broken frame
 somewhere in the mp3, an "overlarge" frame in the mp3 (ie, cbr is set,
 frame should be max x bytes, but actually is x+n bytes long), an
 incorrectly written vbr frame, or that other vbr frame type, other than
 xing, (I forget what it was called) is present.  In all of these cases,
 mp3packer was able to fix the problems, such that libofa now didn't have
 any problems - however, the fingerprint generated by genpuid for these
 files, before the mp3 was fixed, was generated incorrectly, and needed to
 be re-generated (always leading to a different puid now identifying the
 fixed mp3; I'm guessing genpuid either was simply stopping when it hit the
 broken frames and/or used the wrong song length when creating the song's
 analysis output).

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#4254: Existing PUID not found on some sound files
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  Reporter:  jesus2099      |       Owner:  outsidecontext                                        
      Type:  bug            |      Status:  reopened                                              
  Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  Picard 0.12                                            
 Component:  Picard Tagger  |     Version:  Picard 0.11                                            
Resolution:                 |    Keywords:  picard, puid, bug, genpuid, regression, lookup, analyze
        Os:  Windows XP     |     Browser:                                                        
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Comment (by paultaylor):

 Sorry I wasn't very clear , I know Picard uses libofa not genpuid, but is
 not clear what decoders these two applications use for decoding the
 various formats, although genpuid does seem to use ones buikt int the OS
 because it only decodes WMA files on Windows, and AAC on WIndows and Mac.

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#4254: Existing PUID not found on some sound files
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  Reporter:  jesus2099      |       Owner:  outsidecontext                                        
      Type:  bug            |      Status:  reopened                                              
  Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  Picard 0.12                                            
 Component:  Picard Tagger  |     Version:  Picard 0.11                                            
Resolution:                 |    Keywords:  picard, puid, bug, genpuid, regression, lookup, analyze
        Os:  Windows XP     |     Browser:                                                        
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Comment (by outsidecontext):

 I don't know what genpuid uses, but Picard uses ffmpeg for all its
 decoding.

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#4254: Existing PUID not found on some sound files
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  Reporter:  jesus2099      |       Owner:  outsidecontext                                        
      Type:  bug            |      Status:  reopened                                              
  Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  Picard 0.12                                            
 Component:  Picard Tagger  |     Version:  Picard 0.11                                            
Resolution:                 |    Keywords:  picard, puid, bug, genpuid, regression, lookup, analyze
        Os:  Windows XP     |     Browser:                                                        
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Comment (by jesus2099):

 Well no Brian.

 GenPUID finds the correct PUID
 ([http://musicbrainz.org/show/puid/?puid=d49049e8-9c1c-14b9-ac3b-
 dd129e64b8d7 d49049e8-9c1c-14b9-ac3b-dd129e64b8d7]) for both WAV and mp3
 rips when Picard only find it for WAV.

 And, older Picard was able to find it.

 Tristan.

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#4254: Existing PUID not found on some sound files
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  Reporter:  jesus2099      |       Owner:  outsidecontext                                        
      Type:  bug            |      Status:  reopened                                              
  Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  Picard 0.12                                            
 Component:  Picard Tagger  |     Version:  Picard 0.11                                            
Resolution:                 |    Keywords:  picard, puid, bug, genpuid, regression, lookup, analyze
        Os:  Windows XP     |     Browser:                                                        
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Comment (by BrianFreud):

 jesus2099: As you're dealing with mp3s, wouldn't it be possible that one
 of the 4 mp3 puid-in-Picard problems I presented above could be the cause?
 Can you make available this problematic mp3 somewhere (the one from your
 2009-11-01 comment), so we can take a look and see if it's an mp3
 structural problem, a Picard problem, a libofa problem, a ffmpeg problem,
 or some yet other cause?

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#4254: Existing PUID not found on some sound files
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  Reporter:  jesus2099      |       Owner:  outsidecontext                                        
      Type:  bug            |      Status:  reopened                                              
  Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  Picard 0.12                                            
 Component:  Picard Tagger  |     Version:  Picard 0.11                                            
Resolution:                 |    Keywords:  picard, puid, bug, genpuid, regression, lookup, analyze
        Os:  Windows XP     |     Browser:                                                        
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Comment (by jesus2099):

 Please find the following example MP3 file :

 [http://www.yousendit.com/download/TzY2Q3Q1MHdJMHRMWEE9PQ 03 Khúc mùa
 thu.mp3] (foobar2000 + lame 3.97 VBR V4)

 ||'''PUID fetcher'''||'''WAV'''||'''MP3'''||
 || Picard 0.11      ||   OK    ||   OK    ||
 || Picard 0.12beta2 ||   OK    || '''NG'''||
 || genPUID          ||   OK    ||   OK    ||

 Maybe you can see what's wrong now.

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  Reporter:  jesus2099      |       Owner:  outsidecontext                                        
      Type:  bug            |      Status:  reopened                                              
  Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  Picard 0.12                                            
 Component:  Picard Tagger  |     Version:  Picard 0.11                                            
Resolution:                 |    Keywords:  picard, puid, bug, genpuid, regression, lookup, analyze
        Os:  Windows XP     |     Browser:                                                        
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Comment (by BrianFreud):

 Well, before I even look at the file's info, I tried scanning it in Picard
 - linux, running on Ubuntu 9.10, using a bzr checkout of rev 1004.

 PUID d49049e8-9c1c-14b9-ac3b-dd129e64b8d7 found for that track, and 69'59"
 by Phú Quang loaded.  So has something changed since 0.12beta2, or more
 likely, are we dealing with a platform-specific problem, not something
 inherent to genPUID?  (I will note, I did find that when I did try that
 few hundred files with problems getting puids in Picard on both Windows,
 and Linux, when I was switching my OS, half or so of those problem files
 were able to get puids - but only when using Picard under Linux.)

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  Reporter:  jesus2099      |       Owner:  outsidecontext                                        
      Type:  bug            |      Status:  reopened                                              
  Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  Picard 0.12                                            
 Component:  Picard Tagger  |     Version:  Picard 0.11                                            
Resolution:                 |    Keywords:  picard, puid, bug, genpuid, regression, lookup, analyze
        Os:  Windows XP     |     Browser:                                                        
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Comment (by jesus2099):

 Yes, I'm using Windows XP and it already seemed to be a Windows only
 problem.

 For the record, here is the PUID list for which I took the time to leave a
 bug memo (Windows 2000/XP)

 Client: '''MusicBrainz Picard-0.11'''

  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10121277 edit:10121277]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10156845 edit:10156845]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10187936 edit:10187936]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10199129 edit:10199129]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10268599 edit:10268599]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10335361 edit:10335361]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10335362 edit:10335362]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10424669 edit:10424669]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10435328 edit:10435328]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10439641 edit:10439641]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10686951 edit:10686951]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=11032342 edit:11032342]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=11129345 edit:11129345]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=11147563 edit:11147563]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=11165536 edit:11165536]

 Client: '''MusicBrainz Picard-0.12.0beta1'''

  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10929475 edit:10929475]
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10940735 edit:10940735]

 Client: '''MusicBrainz Picard-0.12.0beta2''' (I think only those two might
 be of some interest)

  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=11388549 edit:11388549] (I'll
 send you this one tommorrow, I forgot it at home)
  * [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=11388567 edit:11388567]
 ([#comment:23 d49049e8-9c1c-14b9-ac3b-dd129e64b8d7])

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  Reporter:  jesus2099      |       Owner:  outsidecontext                                        
      Type:  bug            |      Status:  reopened                                              
  Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  Picard 0.12                                            
 Component:  Picard Tagger  |     Version:  Picard 0.11                                            
Resolution:                 |    Keywords:  picard, puid, bug, genpuid, regression, lookup, analyze
        Os:  Windows XP     |     Browser:                                                        
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Comment (by jesus2099):

 Here is the file for manual PUID addition
 [http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=11388549 edit:11388549] :
 [http://www.yousendit.com/download/TzY2U2V0Q1IzeUlLSkE9PQ 01 Khúc nguyện
 hồn.mp3] (Picard 0.12beta2 + XP didn't find its PUID although no problem
 with lossless rip of the same track).

 Although, all other tracks from same album same encoding rip session
 (foobar2000+lame3.97 vbr v4) worked.

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  Reporter:  jesus2099      |       Owner:  outsidecontext                                        
      Type:  bug            |      Status:  reopened                                              
  Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  Picard 0.12                                            
 Component:  Picard Tagger  |     Version:  Picard 0.11                                            
Resolution:                 |    Keywords:  picard, puid, bug, genpuid, regression, lookup, analyze
        Os:  Windows XP     |     Browser:                                                        
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Comment (by BrianFreud):

 That last file (01 Khúc nguyện hồn.mp3) also does not generate a PUID in
 linux, unlike the others.

 (Side issue, I wonder what exact command you're using to invoke lame?  I
 know 3.97 had some issues with length in the xing vbr field not being
 written correctly;
 http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t58069.html ,
 etc.).

 genPUID does correctly report 8fe9e9a9-5dbc-e0b4-8997-8f4e02c16ba1 for
 this file, and as far as I can tell from various diagnostic utils, the
 file's mp3 and id3 frames all look ok.  I can't say why this one fails in
 Picard, even on linux (unlike those others that at least fingerprinted
 correctly in Linux, if not Windows).

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