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Re: 128-bit encryption, no owner password

by Paulo Soares-3 :: Rate this Message:

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We can be here forever talking about what you would like to happen and what
iText does and why it must do it. You may post your questions in the iText
mailing list where Leonard Rosenthal from Adobe can give you a semi-oficial
answer.

Paulo

----- Original Message -----
From: "IT_Hank" <KHendricks@...>
To: <itextsharp-questions@...>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [itextsharp-questions] 128-bit encryption, no owner password


>
> Thanks Paulo,  but that is what I mean.  iText applies the permissions
> password automatically if the permissions password is not provided by the
> PDF creator, as is done in Acrobat.  I find nothing that states that this
> needs to be the case.  Only the reader of the document needs to respect
> the
> permissions and passwords (no cracking).
>
> You are correct, I will need to contact Adobe Legal, maybe they will
> respond
> in 9 months or so. :-)
>
> I assume you need a password (owner or user) for a document to be
> encrypted?
> The ideal is to have a password protected, non-encrypted document.  The
> reason is that we have run across a piece of software that when a user
> trys
> to forward an email with one of our PDFs (encrypted/permission password
> protected), the email security tries to encrypt the email, but this fails
> becuase of the encrypted PDF.  Just trying to get around that.
>
> Thanks Paulo for all that you do.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> Paulo Soares-3 wrote:
>>
>> The text applies to PDFs that are read. If you are producing docs you may
>> or may not apply restrictions. You should probably contact Adobe's legal
>> department about this if you still have doubts.
>>
>> Paulo
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: IT_Hank [mailto:KHendricks@...]
>>> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:50 PM
>>> To: itextsharp-questions@...
>>> Subject: Re: [itextsharp-questions] 128-bit encryption, no
>>> owner password
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Paulo, sorry to beat this to death, but I still couldn't find the
>>> referenced text in the latest PDF reference.
>>>
>>> From your message, it seems to be indicating that developers
>>> of software
>>> like PDF readers should respect the passwords and encryptions
>>> of the PDF
>>> documents that they are reading.  I don't see how this applys
>>> to iText and
>>> why iText should be required to automatically set the
>>> permissions password
>>> on generated PDF documents seeing these documents are being
>>> created and not
>>> consumed.  And if it is the wish of the PDF authour not to
>>> set a permissions
>>> password, then consumers of that PDF will need to respect
>>> that as well.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> IT_Hank wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thanks Paulo for the information.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Paulo Soares [mailto:psoares@...]
>>> > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 4:41 AM
>>> > To: Post all your questions about iTextSharp here
>>> > Subject: Re: [itextsharp-questions] 128-bit encryption, no
>>> owner password
>>> >
>>> > From the PDF reference:
>>> >
>>> > Authors of software that accepts input in the form of the Portable
>>> > Document
>>> > Format must make reasonable efforts to ensure that the software they
>>> > create
>>> > respects
>>> > the access permissions and permissions controls listed in
>>> Table 3.20 of
>>> > this specification, to the extent that they are used in any
>>> particular
>>> > document.
>>> > These access permissions express the rights that the
>>> document's author has
>>> > granted to users of the document. It is the responsibility
>>> of Portable
>>> > Document
>>> > Format consumer software to respect the author's intent.
>>> >
>>> > Paulo
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "IT_Hank" <KHendricks@...>
>>> > To: <itextsharp-questions@...>
>>> > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:39 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [itextsharp-questions] 128-bit encryption, no
>>> owner password
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello Paulo,
>>> >>
>>> >> I have been looking on the Adobe site for the license that
>>> indicates that
>>> >> a
>>> >> owner password is required on a PDF document ("legal
>>> imposition).  I was
>>> >> wondering if you could point me to the correct license
>>> agreement that
>>> >> includes this text.  I need to pass this on to our
>>> business leaders.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you,
>>> >>
>>> >> Kevin
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Paulo Soares wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> That's a legal imposition from Adobe. You must have the
>>> owner password.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Paulo
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>> From: itextsharp-questions-bounces@...
>>> >>>> [mailto:itextsharp-questions-bounces@...]
>>> >>>> On Behalf Of IT_Hank
>>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:00 PM
>>> >>>> To: itextsharp-questions@...
>>> >>>> Subject: [itextsharp-questions] 128-bit encryption, no
>>> owner password
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> We have an application that is creating a 128-bit encrypted
>>> >>>> PDF without user
>>> >>>> or owner passwords.  When performing a PdfCopy.GetImportPage
>>> >>>> method call,
>>> >>>> the GetImportPage method fails in version 4.1.1.0.  This
>>> >>>> worked in version
>>> >>>> 3.1.6.0.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The error might stem from the following:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> //this is the error being thrown because false is being
>>> returend from
>>> >>>> "IsOpenedWillFullPermissions".
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>         internal PdfImportedPage GetImportedPage(int
>>> pageNumber) {
>>> >>>>             if (!reader.IsOpenedWithFullPermissions)
>>> >>>>                 throw new ArgumentException("PdfReader not
>>> >>>> opened with owner
>>> >>>> password");
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> //this method returns false if encrypted and no password
>>> is supplied.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>         public bool IsOpenedWithFullPermissions {
>>> >>>>             get {
>>> >>>>                 return !encrypted || ownerPasswordUsed;
>>> >>>>             }
>>> >>>>         }
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> //this is the calling code
>>> >>>> Snippet one...
>>> >>>>      if (reportGuid != Guid.Empty)
>>> >>>>      {
>>> >>>>         SQLFileInfo inputInfo = new SQLFileInfo(reportGuid);
>>> >>>>         using (SQLFileStream inputStream =
>>> >>>> inputInfo.Open(System.IO.FileMode.Open))
>>> >>>>         {
>>> >>>>             reader = new PdfReader(inputStream, null);
>>> >>>>             if (copy == null)
>>> >>>>             {
>>> >>>>                 doc = new
>>> Document(reader.GetPageSizeWithRotation(1));
>>> >>>>                 copy = new PdfCopy(doc, outputStream);
>>> >>>>                 doc.Open();
>>> >>>>              }
>>> >>>>             //copy the pages
>>> >>>>              CopyPages(copy, reader);
>>> >>>>           }
>>> >>>>    }
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Snippet two...
>>> >>>>         private void CopyPages(PdfCopy copy, PdfReader reader)
>>> >>>>         {
>>> >>>>             for (int i = 1; i <= reader.NumberOfPages; i++)
>>> >>>>             {
>>> >>>>                 //This is where the error happens
>>> >>>>                 copy.AddPage(copy.GetImportedPage(reader, i));
>>> >>>>             }
>>> >>>>         }


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