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by Jessica Jones :: Rate this Message:

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Clint Whaley wrote:

>> Thanks, I had seen it described that way, but being a young and
>> inexperienced thing I had not realised that there was a different,
>> 'original terminology'.  (I've heard 'socket' used for something else
>> entirely, so it is all very confusing!)
>
> I find it so, but from the other end of course :).  
>
> Originally processor was the term that is now being replaced
> by "core".  SMP meant "symmetric multiprocessor", which essentially meant
> non-NUMA.  Nowadays, SMP is often used to mean "shared-memory-processor",
> which includes NUMA.  When multiple processors started appearing on the
> same die, we added CMP, for chip multiprocessor.
>
> Then, someone had the brainwave to redefine the word processor (because
> the SMP/SMP confusion wasn't adequate, I suppose).  I believe Intel calling
> their new chips "Core" was just the logical extension of the devolvement
> of our terminology into complete incomprehensability (I eagerly await their
> next several lines of architectures, which I suppose will be called
> "processor", "architecture" and "chip").  
>
> The first time I was aware of this nifty new terminology overload was when
> reviewing a grant proposal, where I noticed that the authors had seemed to
> redefine processor in a weird way, and I was fixing to tell them to please use
> the standard terminology in their grant applications going forward, when a
> friend said that they'd seen that terminology as the new "standard".
>
> Frankly, I hate it.  I've spent 15 years talking about doing the fundamental
> unit of computation occuring on the processor, and now I'm supposed to call
> that "core", and change the meaning of processor to mean physical package
> (one physical package goes into one socket on the motherboard, is where
> the 'socket' usage comes from).
>
> Anyway, I realize the boat has already sailed, but I have used "processor"
> too long to able to make the change stick now :)
>
> Cheers,
> Clint
>
> **************************************************************************
> ** R. Clint Whaley, PhD ** Assist Prof, UTSA ** www.cs.utsa.edu/~whaley **
> **************************************************************************
>

Well, at the moment I have no real allegiance to any of the definitions
so I'm quite happy to use whichever terminology is preferred in a
particular context/forum - as long as I know which dialect we are all
meant to be speaking, it isn't too confusing.  (That is, if I remember ..)

Thanks for the clarification.  I would blame Intel too .. their site is
intensely confusing (eg
http://www.intel.com/technology/itj/2006/volume10issue02/art02_cmp_implementation/p02_intro.htm).

Jess

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