Re: 64bit red5

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From: bobby@...

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Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:31 PM

Subject: Re: [Red5] 64bit red5

Thanks Andy.

I appreciate that, though I wasn't referring to the Post Shredded Wheat Commercial :)

I was referring to spending tens of thousands of dollars on "The fastest Mac in the Planet" and Apple's need to provide a Policy to work with Customers in their best interests.

I won't be buying another MacPro again ever.  My system will be a NVIDIA Tesla based on a future AMD Processor.

INTEL is already dealing with Anti-Trust issues (not progress) and Unfortunately Apple is tied at the hip with them.

So I'm not against progress, I'm against examples like selling the iPhone for $499, then lowering it to $299, then Apple gives in knowing it was improper (though legal) to the FAITH of their Customers in them and provides Rebates.

So,yes I will run RED5 on my MacPro and I'm glad to here it will run well.

But how much better on a NEHALEM, When does the Slipper Slope end and how will you feel if you ever purchase an Expensive Server, and it goes from 8 months down to a release of 24 hours later, something that deppreciates your investment faster than any other variable in the market today.

I have FAITH in RED5 and Java w/ NetBeans running on a Linux or perhaps a Windows 64-bit system, but not on Apple.

I don't like Rotten Apples.  I do like Steve Jobs though; but 90% of the middle management has ego's larger than 4 Cinema Screens.

GO RED.

-r

On Jul 1, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Andy Shaules wrote:

'Seems in t he Consumers interest that, if I buy, for the Purpose of a Java Server and other Mac OS X capabilities that I may use for RED5 as a Dedicated Server, that If I purchase "The fastest Mac on the Planet on the day it's released, and 8 months later they announced "The fastest Mac on the Planet" that it's unreasonable for them not to have a Customer Policy of those spending over $25k (or some standard) and tell them, look wait a few MONTHS.'

 

Then you would never buy a computer because they get faster every few months!

 

 

'But to depreciate by a factor of no less than 2.7x Speed, what's that all about?'

 

Progress!

 

 

WIth 4 xeons and a gigabit unmetered nic, red5 will download all jars and build a distribution in less than 10 seconds.

 

After the the jars are downloaded, the server will build and start in two seconds.

 

:)

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: bobby@...

To: red5@...

Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:06 PM

Subject: Re: [Red5] 64bit red5

Larry,

This is a very interesting question as I'd like to test Red5 on my MacPro.

What, if any, are the advantages/disadvantages of a Xeon 8-Core running at 3.2 Ghz, with 32GB of Memory (which I have), and the new NEHALEM MacPro that Apple released after the release of "The fastest Mac in the Planet" they sold me just a few months earlier.  I've never had an issue with Apple until this.  It appears they are Tied to the Hip now with INTEL's constant plans for all these new processors, and like the iPhone that got charged $499 and sold later for $299 then Apple provided rebates, they won't budget a bit for someone spending $26,000 on a MacPro Server, and then a few months later releasing what they again titled "The fastest Mac on the Planet".

Seems in t he Consumers interest that, if I buy, for the Purpose of a Java Server and other Mac OS X capabilities that I may use for RED5 as a Dedicated Server, that If I purchase "The fastest Mac on the Planet on the day it's released, and 8 months later they announced "The fastest Mac on the Planet" that it's unreasonable for them not to have a Customer Policy of those spending over $25k (or some standard) and tell them, look wait a few MONTHS.

This is a hot debate because it's one thing to buy a computer late it it's season and have it outdated, and it's also true that every 2-3 years once can expect their investment to depreciate.

But to depreciate by a factor of no less than 2.7x Speed, what's that all about?

Are there any Advantages to running RED5 on a 8-Core Xeon versus a NEHALEM ???

And does anybody know how to get a Highspeed Connection from out of a Studio Apartement (that would really save some costs, I hope; at least for experimental reasons; HUGHS.NET is that real or Overhyped).

-r

On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Larry Sanderson wrote:

64-bits on its surface doesn't add much - just more available memory space, 
and native 64-bit arithmetic (so, if you use lots of longs and doubles, things 
will be a bit faster).  

However, the x86-64 architecture also adds a bunch of registers to the 
platform compared to the previous x86 chips, as well as a few new instructions 
(SSE2/3).  These all make for a modest speed boost even at the same clock 
speed.

My experience is that if you upgrade the OS from 32-bit to 64-bit, you will 
see a small performance improvement, but not huge.

On Wednesday 01 July 2009 01:14:02 am Rafael Carabano wrote:

From your experience what benefits (if any) are there in running red5 on a

64 bit machine vs a 32 bit? I have always worked in 32 bit architectures

and I'm curious as to the experience of those running it on 64 bit

machines? Thanks.

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