Re: Adobe "Bolt" anyone?

[Michael Dinowitz]

This thread is getting both into the silly and the debate over NDA issues. Neither are CF tech so this thread is being moved to CF-OT. Silly can be restarted on CF-Community if you want.

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On Monday 26 Jan 2009, Gerald Guido wrote:
> Unbelievable. God forbid anyone get even the tiniest glimpse of the tools
> that they use to make their living. For the love of what ever you believe
> in, who here has read the terms of a prerelease or any other "click here to
> accept" license?

As the result of breaking the pre-release NDA has (in the past) been to be
banned from any future programs, it's important to know what you are agreeing
too.
> into beta testing of a "dead language"? It is not like Bolt will have
> anything over any other IDE or coding tool out there.

Hopefully it's have something over any other *ColdFusion* IDE.

> Seriously, can Adobe
> pack six years of catch up ball (I am talking the nonexistance of a vender
> supported dedicated IDE) into one year with the likes of MS Visual Studio,
> Flex Builder, NetBeans, Eclipse, Aptana, Zend Studio or Komodo? If it does
> I will order it on the spot.

Given they turned out Flex Builder, building on Eclipse, in fairly short
order, maybe they can.

The proof will be in the pudding.

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[Dawson, Michael]

How would you know, Brian?  Unless you just violated it, yourself?  ;^)

Either way, I always play it safe when it comes to betas.  I don't want
to screw myself out of a good prerelease invitation.  Not that I have
ever been in one...

mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Kotek [mailto:brian428@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:54 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe "Bolt" anyone?

Actually, the Adobe NDA explicitly states that you cannot even admit the
existence of the beta software, among numerous other things. I suggest
you reread the NDA, because you just violated it.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Eric Roberts <
owner@...> wrote:

> That is incorrect...I am on the CF9 alpha...there is nothing to stop
> one from admitting they are on the alpha or the beta.
>
> Eric
>

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[Dawson, Michael]

It depends on the prerelease and who is running that product's
development.

I can proudly say that I was on the CS4 Master Collection prerelease
now. In fact, I think the NDA allowed me to say I was on the CS4 MC
prerelease even while it was still in development, however, there were
certain things I could not discuss.  Adobe was great about telling us
what/when we could discuss and it usually mimicked what Adobe folk had
previously previewed at user groups or other media.

Since we have not heard much about CF9, my guess is that the CF9
prerelease is a bit more tight-lipped.

mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:owner@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:35 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe "Bolt" anyone?

Where...I even double checked it and didn't see anything the last time
we had this discussion/comic dialogue...

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