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Re: Announce: 20061230 release of FitLibrary in Java for FitNesse
by Rick Mugridge
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Hi James,
Yes, at the moment, writing the storytests is the biggest limit on
storytest driven development.
Breve is GUI-based; I've been building it since April. My aim is to make
it easy for Product Managers who are happy in Word, etc, while also
being what I want. (For a very rough idea, it will be like comparing a
simple text editor with Eclipse in terms of support and what can be
auto-generated). I'm working with a "non-technical" Product Manager who
will start using it in a few weeks and provide feedback, and I've lined
up a usability expert to do a usability study.
I've developed specialised GUI for handling the tables, as Word, Excel,
and other apps that play with tables, all handle nested tables poorly.
I'm working on refactoring at the moment, which has led to some
interesting architectural changes.
We've learned a lot from having great tools like FitNesse and Fit.
Cheers, Rick
James Carr wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
> Sounds awesome, as always. One question though, will the IDE include a
> kind of GUI for writing story tests easier? One problem I've had with
> some clients is that they find wiki markup scary, and sometimes even I
> lose my place within large tables with all of those pipes. I was
> working on a javascript based xmlhttp plugin for live editing of
> tables, but haven't had time lately to complete it. Does Breve allow
> for this?
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> On 12/31/06, *Rick Mugridge* <rick@...
> <mailto:rick@...>> wrote:
>
> I hope to finish the first release of Breve in Java, in a few
> weeks. (I expect to be able to run full storytests with it for the
> first time in a few hours).
>
> I will then port Breve and FitLibrary and FitLibrary2 (with
> generics) to C#, as more of my clients now are .NET-based; they
> are bemused that I don't support C#. Thereafter, I'll maintain the
> Java and C# versions in synch. I will not be doing a port to
> Python; John Roth is active with that.
>
> Many thanks to Mike Stockdale for his earlier work on FitLibrary
> in C#.
>
> BTW, Breve is a IDE for storytests, with WYSIWYG editing of
> storytests/tables/suites, refactoring, searching, auto-completion,
> running, etc etc (analogous to Eclipse). It has the start of a
> plug-in architecture, to allow for plug-ins, such as to generate
> FitNesse wiki pages or HTML. A later release will introduce it as
> an IDE plugin, such as for Eclipse. I'll initially make it
> available as a freeware product; a later version will include a
> book. FitLibrary itself will continue in open-source.
>
> Cheers, Rick
>
> Jeff Parker wrote:
>>
>> Do you know when the .NET version of this library will be released?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fitnesse@...
>> <mailto:fitnesse%40yahoogroups.com>
>> [mailto:fitnesse@...
>> <mailto:fitnesse%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
>> Of Rick Mugridge
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:14 PM
>> To: fitnesse@... <mailto:fitnesse%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [fitnesse] Announce: 20061230 release of FitLibrary in
>> Java for
>> FitNesse
>>
>> That's available at https://sourceforge.net/projects/fitlibrary/
>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/fitlibrary/>
>>
>
>
Yes, at the moment, writing the storytests is the biggest limit on
storytest driven development.
Breve is GUI-based; I've been building it since April. My aim is to make
it easy for Product Managers who are happy in Word, etc, while also
being what I want. (For a very rough idea, it will be like comparing a
simple text editor with Eclipse in terms of support and what can be
auto-generated). I'm working with a "non-technical" Product Manager who
will start using it in a few weeks and provide feedback, and I've lined
up a usability expert to do a usability study.
I've developed specialised GUI for handling the tables, as Word, Excel,
and other apps that play with tables, all handle nested tables poorly.
I'm working on refactoring at the moment, which has led to some
interesting architectural changes.
We've learned a lot from having great tools like FitNesse and Fit.
Cheers, Rick
James Carr wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
> Sounds awesome, as always. One question though, will the IDE include a
> kind of GUI for writing story tests easier? One problem I've had with
> some clients is that they find wiki markup scary, and sometimes even I
> lose my place within large tables with all of those pipes. I was
> working on a javascript based xmlhttp plugin for live editing of
> tables, but haven't had time lately to complete it. Does Breve allow
> for this?
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> On 12/31/06, *Rick Mugridge* <rick@...
> <mailto:rick@...>> wrote:
>
> I hope to finish the first release of Breve in Java, in a few
> weeks. (I expect to be able to run full storytests with it for the
> first time in a few hours).
>
> I will then port Breve and FitLibrary and FitLibrary2 (with
> generics) to C#, as more of my clients now are .NET-based; they
> are bemused that I don't support C#. Thereafter, I'll maintain the
> Java and C# versions in synch. I will not be doing a port to
> Python; John Roth is active with that.
>
> Many thanks to Mike Stockdale for his earlier work on FitLibrary
> in C#.
>
> BTW, Breve is a IDE for storytests, with WYSIWYG editing of
> storytests/tables/suites, refactoring, searching, auto-completion,
> running, etc etc (analogous to Eclipse). It has the start of a
> plug-in architecture, to allow for plug-ins, such as to generate
> FitNesse wiki pages or HTML. A later release will introduce it as
> an IDE plugin, such as for Eclipse. I'll initially make it
> available as a freeware product; a later version will include a
> book. FitLibrary itself will continue in open-source.
>
> Cheers, Rick
>
> Jeff Parker wrote:
>>
>> Do you know when the .NET version of this library will be released?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fitnesse@...
>> <mailto:fitnesse%40yahoogroups.com>
>> [mailto:fitnesse@...
>> <mailto:fitnesse%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
>> Of Rick Mugridge
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:14 PM
>> To: fitnesse@... <mailto:fitnesse%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [fitnesse] Announce: 20061230 release of FitLibrary in
>> Java for
>> FitNesse
>>
>> That's available at https://sourceforge.net/projects/fitlibrary/
>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/fitlibrary/>
>>
>
>
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