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Re: ArcPad and ArcPad Application Builder
by Chris Ball-7
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Yes, the point is, ArcGIS desktop all you need is Vs or similar (ArcGis + VS), with Arcpad you need (Arcpad + ArcPad App Builder + VS) or similar to just to do the development. You can distribute any DLLs' you make without licensing restrictions (since the other libraries will already be installed on the user's system, in reference to ArcGIS development)
That was my point, I don't see what the extra grand is for unless it allowed distribution of arc libraries (which you say it does not, which does not surprise me at all). They ought to just include it, you will need an ArcPAD license to use it anyway. That's what ESRI does for ArcGIS.
Is the application builder an IDE?
>>> On 4/30/2008 at 3:00 PM, in message <481889A3.C40B.00E4.0@...>, "Alex Mandel" <amandel@...> wrote:
I don't think that's entirely accurate. You still need a paid version of Visual Studio in order to compile dll extensions for ArcGIS and I see that being analagous to the PDA situation. Same with the licensing, there is no product you can make using arc libraries that doesn't require an arc license of some kind.
Alex
>>> On 4/30/2008 at 14:51, "Chris Ball" <cball@...> wrote:
> well I figured that it came with a copy of Arcpad, its just kind of pricey at
> $1500 for App Builder (minus 1 license of ArcPad that's still a grand).
>
> With Desktop ArcGIS you can develop extensions with no extra cost other than
> your development software. In the case of ArcPad app builder, I think you
> still need development software (like VS or Borland, etc.). Unless the app
> builder is allowing stand alone applications which use the dll's from Arcpad
> without additional licensing fees.
>
> thanks
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>>>> On 4/30/2008 at 2:43 PM, in message <481885A5.77F9.00A1.0@...>, "Steven
> Goldman" <sgoldman@...> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> ArcPad does not include App Builder, but the reverse is true (App
> Builder does come with 1 copy of ArcPad).
>
> Also, ArcPad does come with a basic form building tool, from what I
> understand, so you don*t necessarily need App Builder if you*re
> doing basic apps. Can anyone verify that this is true?
> Thanks.
> -Steve
>
>
> Steve Goldman, GISP
> GIS Manager, Biogeographic Data Branch
> California Department of Fish and Game
> http://www.dfg.ca.gov/biogeodata/
> Phone: (916) 445-9939
> Email: sgoldman@...
>
>
>>>> "Chris Ball" <cball@...> 4/30/2008 2:30 PM >>>
> for clarification from last PDA meeting:
>
> these are 2 different software packages. I asked if Application
> Builder came with ArcPad, it does not.
>
> ArcPad is currently $495, and Application Builder is $1500.
>
>
> http://store.esri.com/esri/showprod.cfm?SID=2&Category_ID=123
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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> California Dept. of Fish and Game, North Central Region
> Forest Resources Conservation Planning (FRCP)
> Resource Assessment Program (RAP)
>
> cball@...
> (916) 358 - 2910
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That was my point, I don't see what the extra grand is for unless it allowed distribution of arc libraries (which you say it does not, which does not surprise me at all). They ought to just include it, you will need an ArcPAD license to use it anyway. That's what ESRI does for ArcGIS.
Is the application builder an IDE?
>>> On 4/30/2008 at 3:00 PM, in message <481889A3.C40B.00E4.0@...>, "Alex Mandel" <amandel@...> wrote:
I don't think that's entirely accurate. You still need a paid version of Visual Studio in order to compile dll extensions for ArcGIS and I see that being analagous to the PDA situation. Same with the licensing, there is no product you can make using arc libraries that doesn't require an arc license of some kind.
Alex
>>> On 4/30/2008 at 14:51, "Chris Ball" <cball@...> wrote:
> well I figured that it came with a copy of Arcpad, its just kind of pricey at
> $1500 for App Builder (minus 1 license of ArcPad that's still a grand).
>
> With Desktop ArcGIS you can develop extensions with no extra cost other than
> your development software. In the case of ArcPad app builder, I think you
> still need development software (like VS or Borland, etc.). Unless the app
> builder is allowing stand alone applications which use the dll's from Arcpad
> without additional licensing fees.
>
> thanks
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>>>> On 4/30/2008 at 2:43 PM, in message <481885A5.77F9.00A1.0@...>, "Steven
> Goldman" <sgoldman@...> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> ArcPad does not include App Builder, but the reverse is true (App
> Builder does come with 1 copy of ArcPad).
>
> Also, ArcPad does come with a basic form building tool, from what I
> understand, so you don*t necessarily need App Builder if you*re
> doing basic apps. Can anyone verify that this is true?
> Thanks.
> -Steve
>
>
> Steve Goldman, GISP
> GIS Manager, Biogeographic Data Branch
> California Department of Fish and Game
> http://www.dfg.ca.gov/biogeodata/
> Phone: (916) 445-9939
> Email: sgoldman@...
>
>
>>>> "Chris Ball" <cball@...> 4/30/2008 2:30 PM >>>
> for clarification from last PDA meeting:
>
> these are 2 different software packages. I asked if Application
> Builder came with ArcPad, it does not.
>
> ArcPad is currently $495, and Application Builder is $1500.
>
>
> http://store.esri.com/esri/showprod.cfm?SID=2&Category_ID=123
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
> Chris L. Ball
> Research Analyst II (GIS)
> California Dept. of Fish and Game, North Central Region
> Forest Resources Conservation Planning (FRCP)
> Resource Assessment Program (RAP)
>
> cball@...
> (916) 358 - 2910
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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