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by Randy Eckert :: Rate this Message:

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God I am gad some one has the time to tell about how they did it first,
thanks for all the good info.
There is always time for great design!

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Roland Wiench <ev_7@...> wrote:

> It is best to have some type of fire wall between the battery box
> container
> and the passenger compartment.  The fire wall between the motor bay and
> passenger may not be completely steel.  There are areas in the firewall
> that
> may be plastic like the heater fan units, the heater core covers, and wire
> and cable entrances points.
>
> Now is you look at some trunks, the fire wall between the trunk area and
> the
> rear seat may be only a plastic or cloth insulator.  If you use the trunk
> method, its is best to install a full piece of metal over this area.
>
> Looking at a pickup with batteries in the box, and if you have a battery
> explosion, the rear glass will break up into small pieces and embed into
> you.
>
> I am using the pick up method, but I replace or overlay that rear glass
> with
> a piece of 1/4 inch very high impact lexon glass you can get at a glass
> shop.
>
> All my batteries are enclose in a two compartments of 1/4 inch fiberglass
> sheeting that is reinforce up to 1/2 inch thick or more.  The battery box
> covers are stainless full length hinge and double seal when the lids are
> close.
>
> A battery box ventilation should be use, where the all plastic totally
> enclose fan exhaust the battery box air out from one corner which brings
> in
> fresh air through a filter at the other corner of the box. The exhaust air
> goes up in a heavy duty 1/4 inch flex hose.  DO NOT USE THOSE THIN VINYL
> HOSES, where the battery fumes will take these out in with a day.
>
> Most important is to have the battery box covers hinge so only the open
> end
> faces away from the passenger compartment.  Plus, do not latch the covers
> down, only hinge them, plus as well any other cover.
>
> Back in 1985 I had one defective battery exploded, which also took out 9
> other batteries.  The battery covers lefted up, plus also left up the
> hatch
> back cover which blew out the lexon glass all in one piece.  The rear
> window
> lexon glass panel held.
>
> A local battery company slip in 10 batteries that was 9 months old with a
> new 21 other batteries that were 1 month old.  The batteries exploded the
> minute I press the accelerator.
>
> It is possible to use a wagon as a EV, but I would get that back panel
> section from a pickup and install it, so it would separate the driver
> section from the battery section.  Use a 1/4 inch lexon glass you can get
> from a glass company and seal it in so it overlaps the flange on the
> battery
> side.
>
> The only problem, is if you have a battery explosion, it will shatter all
> the side windows and may kill some one if you do not reinforce those too.
>
> If you do not use battery box covers or hinge covers, then I would triple
> layer this glass between the the passenger compartment and the batteries.
> Also remember to ventilated the battery area.  I first start up the
> exhaust
> fans before I turn on the battery charger and open any covers.  Run the
> fans
> for about 1 minute before you charge the batteries or work on them.
>
> I have install a interlock system, where I must first turn on the fans
> which
> activates a switch which detects the air flow in the fan exhaust hoses.
> When the flow is corrected, then it activates DC contactor that is between
> the battery charger and batteries.
>
> At any time, this fan fails, it will then shut down the battery charger.
>
> This fan control system is use on building heating systems, where the fans
> must come on first and stay for a certain amount of time after the heating
> system shuts down.
>
> Roland
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Heynow" <mistel@...>
> To: <ev@...>
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 8:14 AM
> Subject: [EVDL] Batteries in the passenger compartment?
>
>
> >
> > I have been avoiding looking at wagons as a glider as I don't like the
> > idea
> > of batteries in the passenger compartment.  I want to be able to keep
> them
> > in the trunk and under the hood.  Am I wrong in thinking this?  Do some
> > wagons have more carrying capacity, so they are better foe an EV?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Peter
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