Re: Build question

> Some, yes, that bug was closed automatically, and I was asked not to
> pursue such topics in the bug tracker in 2750571.
>
> At any rate, I would agree that it seems like quite a lot of work to
> build the java components.  I am a complete stranger to Java, and by
> "build the ImageTools jar", I meant re-compose it from it's extracted
> contents, which is not nearly as far as I need to be.
>
> My point is not that you're disregarding the letter of the GPL, since
> the source is publicly available, just that some might misinterpret the
> effort required to obtain the full source as disregarding the spirit of
> the GPL, since though available, it's not as if one can say "download
> tarball X from URL Y".  I'd love to see the process documented
> somewhere, but that's neither here nor there.
>
> I understand that with G3 being imminent, G2 is effectively dead.  The
> catch is, I don't know when G3 is coming, and G2 is already in Fedora
> and has been for some time.  The packages currently available for
> gallery in Fedora contain prebuilt jars.  Gallery should not have been
> packaged this way in the first place, but that was done more than 3
> years ago and is pretty much water under the bridge.
>
> The situation I find myself in as the new maintainer is that the package
> as it stands violates Fedora's legal guidelines, and has a large user
> base.  This leaves me with the following choices:
>      1. Drop G2 from Fedora and package G3 (which presumably will not
> have this problem) at it's release.  This would be very disappointing.
> Perhaps (and understandably) not for you, but for Fedora's G2 users,
> myself included.
>    2. Push a version of G2 minus the .jar files.  This would almost
> certainly break G2, correct?
>    3. Build the java bits from source.  Laborious, as it turns out, and
> possibly not worth the time if G3 is coming soon.
>
> So, I guess, unless someone else knows of a simpler way to grab and
> build the source, I'd like to know an ETA for G3, how the upgrade
> process looks from G2 to G3, and if a jarless G2 would work at all.  G3
> Alpha 3 is nearly a  month old, and based on the timing of Alpha 2, I'd
> guess either Alpha 4, or a Beta of some type might be next, but that's
> subject to my ignorance of your schedule. :)
>
> Chris Kelly wrote:
>> Didn't you cover some of this in the bug thread?
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2585568&group_id=7130&atid=107130
>>
>>
>> "With some wrangling, I've been able to build the ImageTools jar"
>>
>> And we agreed that you could pull out the db2 stuff.
>>
>> It unfortunate that the Java things in Gallery 2 are such a mess, but
>> Gallery 3 is java-free and won't have this problem, and it wouldn't hurt
>> my feelings if G2 was not available in Fedora.  We're not putting any
>> more effort into Gallery 2.
>>
>> And per Kevin's Comment #18:  My "100% sure" comment was guessing how
>> much time you'd want to put in. you could certainly look at timestamps
>> of releases to see what applets were in svn at that time, then look at
>> when those applets where checked in, then get the code that was in trunk
>> for them at that time, check out that code, look at the build scripts
>> for that time, build them, etc, but that would take some time.  Still
>> not sure how us not making it easy to build a few small components of G2
>> from source, when it is possible if you work on it, is a "blatant
>> disregard" of the GPL.
>>
>> Just trying to figure out what more you're asking for. Thanks!
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>>
>> Jon Ciesla wrote:
>>  
>>> Hi, Jon Ciesla, Fedora maintainer for the gallery2 package.  We've
>>> run into a snag*, and I need some assistance.  The
>>> gallery-2.3-full.zip contains several prebuilt .jar files, which in
>>> turn contain prebuild .class files.  In fedora, we build from source,
>>> and so I am faced with either dropping gallery from Fedora (which I
>>> *really* don't want to do) or find a way to build from .java sources.
>>>
>>> Is it documented anywhere either in the G2 wiki or in the tarball how
>>> to build the entire project from source?  I've done svn checkout of
>>> trunk, and I'm not sure which subdirectories need to be present at
>>> build or even how to do so. I'd like to not have to use the whole
>>> 600MB+ trunk checkout if I can avoid it.
>>>
>>> I've found trunk/packaging/gallery2/build.php, which appears to do an
>>> svn checkout among other things, but I can't find where the .class
>>> files contained within the .jar files are build.
>>>
>>> I should also point out, in Gallery bug 2585568, that the GPL
>>> stipulate that when binaries are shipped, the source must also be
>>> made available.  I'm sure it is, and I just haven't found it, but
>>> others might question the projects adherence to the GPL.
>>>
>>> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> *https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484566
>>>
>>>    
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