Re: Calculated question types

[Robin Hill-3]

We will report on this very issue at the Virginia Tech conference.
WebCT calculated questions take some parameters and generate a set of
variations (with answers), from which one is drawn when the exam is
administered, so, yes, that facility can be simulated by a script
execution that provides input to a question pool.

Our Physics faculty have the same requirement, and they form our test
community.  We are still working out the details, and will provide our
materials and results on Confluence, of course.  My lab assistant, Rory
Jarrard, is scheduled to present during the last session on November 12th.


Sean Keesler wrote:

> AFAIK, you can create a "pool" of questions from which you can randomly
> draw questions to populate a "part" in Samigo.
> Unfortuntely, it doesn't create new questions (and solve them) on the
> fly...but picks from a list.
>
> I guess you could have an external "random question creator" script/app
> outside of Sakai that could create a QTI file that you could then import
> into a question pool.
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
> Barb Kerns wrote:
>  > I have a faculty member who is adamant that Sakai will not be suitable
>  > as a
>  > replacement to Blackboard until Sakai has the capability to generate
>  > calculated questions (in which the system randomly generates the
>  > variables
>  > to make each question unique). What options do we have with Sakai to
>  > generate randomly calculated test questions?
>  >
>  > I appreciate any suggestions you have or contacts you know of
>  > someone/institution who is working on this.
>  >
>  > Thank you.
>  > Barb Kerns
>  > Bradley University
>  > Peoria, IL, USA
>  > [phone]
>  >
>  > (First year pilot of Sakai version 2.5.1 on Solaris with Tomcat
> database)
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[Sean Keesler]

Is there a possibility to implement a web service that returns a
calculated formula questions when provided with a request and
appropriate parameters? That way any tool could consume the service when
needed.

 

Sean

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Barb Kerns wrote:

> Robin,
> I am very glad to hear that work is being done in this area.  Thank you!
>
> For those who aren't familiar with calculated formula question types, our
> faculty member recommends this website --
> http://calculations.wikidot.com/
>
> Significant information is available there.
>
> Attached is a copy of some exam questions from the faculty member.
>
> Barb
>
>
>
> On 10/2/08 12:16 PM, "Robin Hill" <hill@...> wrote:
>
>  
>> We will report on this very issue at the Virginia Tech conference.
>> WebCT calculated questions take some parameters and generate a set of
>> variations (with answers), from which one is drawn when the exam is
>> administered, so, yes, that facility can be simulated by a script
>> execution that provides input to a question pool.
>>
>> Our Physics faculty have the same requirement, and they form our test
>> community.  We are still working out the details, and will provide our
>> materials and results on Confluence, of course.  My lab assistant, Rory
>> Jarrard, is scheduled to present during the last session on November 12th.
>>
>>
>> Sean Keesler wrote:
>>    
>>> AFAIK, you can create a "pool" of questions from which you can randomly
>>> draw questions to populate a "part" in Samigo.
>>> Unfortuntely, it doesn't create new questions (and solve them) on the
>>> fly...but picks from a list.
>>>
>>> I guess you could have an external "random question creator" script/app
>>> outside of Sakai that could create a QTI file that you could then import
>>> into a question pool.
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Barb Kerns wrote:
>>>      
>>>> I have a faculty member who is adamant that Sakai will not be suitable
>>>> as a
>>>> replacement to Blackboard until Sakai has the capability to generate
>>>> calculated questions (in which the system randomly generates the
>>>> variables
>>>> to make each question unique). What options do we have with Sakai to
>>>> generate randomly calculated test questions?
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate any suggestions you have or contacts you know of
>>>> someone/institution who is working on this.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> Barb Kerns
>>>> Bradley University
>>>> Peoria, IL, USA
>>>> [phone]
>>>>
>>>> (First year pilot of Sakai version 2.5.1 on Solaris with Tomcat
>>>>        
>>> database)
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[Aaron Zeckoski]

I think that would be fairly easy assuming the code to generate the
questions exists. If someone wants to provide that part I can help
turn it into a restful web service.
-AZ


On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Sean Keesler <sean@...> wrote:

> Is there a possibility to implement a web service that returns a
> calculated formula questions when provided with a request and
> appropriate parameters? That way any tool could consume the service when
> needed.
>
>
>
> Sean
>
> -------------------
> Sean Keesler
> 130 Academy Street
> Manlius, NY 13104
> sean@...
> 315-682-0830
>
>
>
>
> Barb Kerns wrote:
>> Robin,
>> I am very glad to hear that work is being done in this area. Thank you!
>>
>> For those who aren't familiar with calculated formula question types, our
>> faculty member recommends this website --
>> http://calculations.wikidot.com/
>>
>> Significant information is available there.
>>
>> Attached is a copy of some exam questions from the faculty member.
>>
>> Barb
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/2/08 12:16 PM, "Robin Hill" <hill@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> We will report on this very issue at the Virginia Tech conference.
>>> WebCT calculated questions take some parameters and generate a set of
>>> variations (with answers), from which one is drawn when the exam is
>>> administered, so, yes, that facility can be simulated by a script
>>> execution that provides input to a question pool.
>>>
>>> Our Physics faculty have the same requirement, and they form our test
>>> community. We are still working out the details, and will provide our
>>> materials and results on Confluence, of course. My lab assistant, Rory
>>> Jarrard, is scheduled to present during the last session on November
>>> 12th.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sean Keesler wrote:
>>>
>>>> AFAIK, you can create a "pool" of questions from which you can randomly
>>>> draw questions to populate a "part" in Samigo.
>>>> Unfortuntely, it doesn't create new questions (and solve them) on the
>>>> fly...but picks from a list.
>>>>
>>>> I guess you could have an external "random question creator" script/app
>>>> outside of Sakai that could create a QTI file that you could then import
>>>> into a question pool.
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Barb Kerns wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a faculty member who is adamant that Sakai will not be suitable
>>>>> as a
>>>>> replacement to Blackboard until Sakai has the capability to generate
>>>>> calculated questions (in which the system randomly generates the
>>>>> variables
>>>>> to make each question unique). What options do we have with Sakai to
>>>>> generate randomly calculated test questions?
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate any suggestions you have or contacts you know of
>>>>> someone/institution who is working on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> Barb Kerns
>>>>> Bradley University
>>>>> Peoria, IL, USA
>>>>> [phone]
>>>>>
>>>>> (First year pilot of Sakai version 2.5.1 on Solaris with Tomcat
>>>>>
>>>> database)
>>>>
>>>>>
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