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There should be no debate for bundling whatsoever if:

1) Netbeans provides first class support for all major databases
2) Install MySQL is as easy as eating a piece of cake.

So, this is what needs to be done, if any:

1) Make Netbeans provides first class support for all major databases
2) Make installing MySQL is as easy as eating a piece of cake.

----- Original Message ----
From: Na'Tosha Dover <natosha@...>
To: nbusers@...
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:54:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nbusers] Can we expect to see MySQL in NB soon?

Greetings Everyone,

My personal opinion is that NetBeans doesn't need to bundle an entire database bundled with it. I think good support for working with many databases should be the goal. Bundling a database with NetBeans is only going to be helpful for the percentage of NetBeans users who 1) use databases (currently I work on a large, stand-alone, end-user spectroscopy application that does not utilize a database of any kind), and 2) can and want to use whatever database is bundled with the IDE (at my last job when I was writing Java web applications, I didn't get to make choices about which databases were used. Either our clients made that choice for us, or the applications that were already in development when I got their had their own databases already created). If you're not in one of these two groups, having a bundled database with the IDE is just going to mean a more bloated download.

Just my $0.02.

Na'Tosha

On Jan 18, 2008 3:24 PM, David Van Couvering <david@...> wrote:

Holy schmoly! Quite a lot of opinions here! It's great to see so
much passion and interest in databases and NetBeans! Full disclosure:
I'm the Sun employee currently responsible for core database tooling
in NetBeans (e.g. the Database Explorer and Java DB support).

I personally don't think it's a good idea to bundle MySQL with
NetBeans. If you've noticed, we actually don't bundle Java DB. We
do detect it if it's on your system, either the one that's bundled in
JDK 6 or the one bundled in Glassfish (which *is* bundled with the
enterprise version of NetBeans).

There are a lot of other interesting ideas out there. You're not the
only one asking me what we should do here or providing opinions. I've
had a very busy last few days :)

I hope to gather up all your ideas, put them into some kind of
reasonable form, and get your votes on what we should be doing. So
please send your ideas my way.

First step; let's brainstorm on ideas. Send them to me, and not just
nbusers, or I may miss them. I'll add them to the Wiki. Or you can
add them directly to the Wiki.

We'll go from there. I think database tooling for NetBeans just got a
little kick in the pants :)

David

P.S. For more on this please see
http://davidvancouvering.blogspot.com/2008/01/netbeans-and-mysql-what-to-do.html

On Jan 17, 2008 10:33 AM, <darrinps@...> wrote:
> Are there any plans to ship NetBeans with MySQL instead of JavaDB (which I have had...well...a fair share of problems with over the last few years) now that Sun is planning to buy MySQL?
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> If not bundled, will it at least have better out of the box support (come with the MySQL driver, etc.)?
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David W. Van Couvering
http://davidvancouvering.blogspot.com

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