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Re: Choosing Netbeans platform or Eclipse RCP
by vince kraemer
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I hate to say this... but all the reasons that you have given for
choosing the NB RCP over the Eclipse RCP appear to be well reasoned,
valid and technical. It reads like a decision made by an "engineer"...
which is something I think your jury will be looking for.
I would recommend that you look for references about:
1. the portability of Swing,
2. articles that compare different UI development tools (like
http://www.fullspan.com/articles/java-gui-builders.html) [this is a bit
dated... but may have been used as a reference in something more current...]
3. articles about the effect of "new technology" on the success of
software development projects. Your concerns about learning new tech
and developing a "product" at the same time are well documented in the
research and "practical" literature.
I also saw this... which has pointers to other articles that may be
useful...
http://cld.blog-city.com/the_best_kept_secret__netbeans_successful_rich_client_platform.htm
vbk
Sergio Lopes wrote:
> Hi, Ranieri Oliveira
> Actually I'm from Portugal ;)
>
> I think you misunderstood me, I'm not asking about the Netbeans IDE or
> Eclipse IDE, but about the Netbeans RCP and eclipse RCP. The
> completness that the base installation give is not a factor as I'll
> strip almost everything down. Editor support, Java support, CVS, SVN,
> all that is not necessary for a desktop application that I need to
> build on top of the RCP.
>
> @Radhika
> Those links also relate to the choice of IDEs, but I'll take a more
> closer look, there could be more in those real stories and
> testimonials that I can use.
>
> My real problem here is to find respected documentation on the
> subject, as a student I need to back up every choice I make with
> valid, technical and preferably taken from some respected bibliography
> ;)
>
> I know I want to use Netbeans platform, and I can tell you why out of my head:
> - I have to have a working application at the end of June and the team
> is made of two students, me and a colleague, so time is very short.
> - I already know Swing, been working with it for some time, I
> understand how it works, the architecture behind it and when I can't
> do something I know where and how to look for a solution. I know
> nothing about SWT or JFace.
> - I'm familiar with Netbeans IDE and technologies, I have been using
> it since netbeans 5.0, that's when I dumped eclipse :D
> - Netbeans has a better GUI builder that can be used to create the GUI
> of my application.
> - I find the examples of netbeans more easy to follow, I also find
> more documentation on the API better, the off line API module is also
> great to have an off line version of the API's documentation as I
> don't always have an internet connection.
> - I may need some libraries that are swing based, like SwingLabs
> libraries, and that will take time to integrate into Eclipse RCP.
> - Netbeans comes with many wizards that will help me get some work done fast.
>
> Considering the time frame we have, and all we need to do, I have
> already chosen Netbeans, I know need to back up that choice, because
> it is based on my own experience, and as a student, my experience
> counts for nothing when the juries are evaluating my work. Though I
> want to learn when doing this project, I also have to think about the
> practical side of things :D
>
>
choosing the NB RCP over the Eclipse RCP appear to be well reasoned,
valid and technical. It reads like a decision made by an "engineer"...
which is something I think your jury will be looking for.
I would recommend that you look for references about:
1. the portability of Swing,
2. articles that compare different UI development tools (like
http://www.fullspan.com/articles/java-gui-builders.html) [this is a bit
dated... but may have been used as a reference in something more current...]
3. articles about the effect of "new technology" on the success of
software development projects. Your concerns about learning new tech
and developing a "product" at the same time are well documented in the
research and "practical" literature.
I also saw this... which has pointers to other articles that may be
useful...
http://cld.blog-city.com/the_best_kept_secret__netbeans_successful_rich_client_platform.htm
vbk
Sergio Lopes wrote:
> Hi, Ranieri Oliveira
> Actually I'm from Portugal ;)
>
> I think you misunderstood me, I'm not asking about the Netbeans IDE or
> Eclipse IDE, but about the Netbeans RCP and eclipse RCP. The
> completness that the base installation give is not a factor as I'll
> strip almost everything down. Editor support, Java support, CVS, SVN,
> all that is not necessary for a desktop application that I need to
> build on top of the RCP.
>
> @Radhika
> Those links also relate to the choice of IDEs, but I'll take a more
> closer look, there could be more in those real stories and
> testimonials that I can use.
>
> My real problem here is to find respected documentation on the
> subject, as a student I need to back up every choice I make with
> valid, technical and preferably taken from some respected bibliography
> ;)
>
> I know I want to use Netbeans platform, and I can tell you why out of my head:
> - I have to have a working application at the end of June and the team
> is made of two students, me and a colleague, so time is very short.
> - I already know Swing, been working with it for some time, I
> understand how it works, the architecture behind it and when I can't
> do something I know where and how to look for a solution. I know
> nothing about SWT or JFace.
> - I'm familiar with Netbeans IDE and technologies, I have been using
> it since netbeans 5.0, that's when I dumped eclipse :D
> - Netbeans has a better GUI builder that can be used to create the GUI
> of my application.
> - I find the examples of netbeans more easy to follow, I also find
> more documentation on the API better, the off line API module is also
> great to have an off line version of the API's documentation as I
> don't always have an internet connection.
> - I may need some libraries that are swing based, like SwingLabs
> libraries, and that will take time to integrate into Eclipse RCP.
> - Netbeans comes with many wizards that will help me get some work done fast.
>
> Considering the time frame we have, and all we need to do, I have
> already chosen Netbeans, I know need to back up that choice, because
> it is based on my own experience, and as a student, my experience
> counts for nothing when the juries are evaluating my work. Though I
> want to learn when doing this project, I also have to think about the
> practical side of things :D
>
>
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