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Re: Clarification needed on remastered releases.
by DonRedman
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On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 05:11:30 +0200, doidy wrote:
> I guess my question is: is the wiki right or are these mods right? I
> have
> heard the Rough Trade release and the Ryko release of "Today" and the
> remastering is evident. By what I have researched, these should be
> separate
> releases. Supposing they were merged as one release with two different
> dates, could I add an Advanced Relationship RemasterRelationshipType
> between
> the 11 track MB release and the original 9 track version? After all, I
> would be saying that this entire release was a remaster of the earlier
> version, which would actually not be true, since the hypothetical two
> release dates for the one record actually denote fundamentally different
> releases.
>
> If the consensus is that this is okay and remasters and original masters
> should have the same MB release, can this information be removed from the
> wiki?
>
> Thanks for the consideration. I certainly don't want to be argumentative
> and I just want to conform to the rules and avoid making mods like this
> that people will have good reason to vote 'no' on.
Steve,
you have hit a delicate problem here. I think th eproblem is that there is
no consensus. Currently MusicBrainz is moving from a policy according to
which releases were merged as much as possible to a policy according to
which releases are kept separate if they differ by some substantial detail.
What that substantial detail is is a controversial matter.
I think I will raise this issue on the style mailing list, but this might
spark some lengthy debate.
In the meantime, I suggest you enter the album as a separate one. It is
clear that on the long run such albums will be separated and I think we
are loosing information if we merge them now.
E.g. if you have both albums, you can generate PUIDs for all tracks. Those
will be different (since the audio is different). If these get merged into
one release, then people will tag their files against the wrong track with
PUID lookups.
DonRedman
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> I guess my question is: is the wiki right or are these mods right? I
> have
> heard the Rough Trade release and the Ryko release of "Today" and the
> remastering is evident. By what I have researched, these should be
> separate
> releases. Supposing they were merged as one release with two different
> dates, could I add an Advanced Relationship RemasterRelationshipType
> between
> the 11 track MB release and the original 9 track version? After all, I
> would be saying that this entire release was a remaster of the earlier
> version, which would actually not be true, since the hypothetical two
> release dates for the one record actually denote fundamentally different
> releases.
>
> If the consensus is that this is okay and remasters and original masters
> should have the same MB release, can this information be removed from the
> wiki?
>
> Thanks for the consideration. I certainly don't want to be argumentative
> and I just want to conform to the rules and avoid making mods like this
> that people will have good reason to vote 'no' on.
Steve,
you have hit a delicate problem here. I think th eproblem is that there is
no consensus. Currently MusicBrainz is moving from a policy according to
which releases were merged as much as possible to a policy according to
which releases are kept separate if they differ by some substantial detail.
What that substantial detail is is a controversial matter.
I think I will raise this issue on the style mailing list, but this might
spark some lengthy debate.
In the meantime, I suggest you enter the album as a separate one. It is
clear that on the long run such albums will be separated and I think we
are loosing information if we merge them now.
E.g. if you have both albums, you can generate PUIDs for all tracks. Those
will be different (since the audio is different). If these get merged into
one release, then people will tag their files against the wrong track with
PUID lookups.
DonRedman
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