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Re: Clarification needed on remastered releases.
by Gecks
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On 03/07/06, doidy <arc_dx@...> wrote:
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> Gecks wrote:
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> > for the record, none of my 100+ subscribed artists has a single
> > unmerged remaster. nor indeed has any got any mention of that fact in
> > the annotation. it's just outside of MBz scope IMO.
> >
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> I haven't seen it, either, really, and I'm fine if this discussion leads to
> changes, but doesn't that just mean that people aren't following the rules
> as they're set forth on the wiki? I mean, if you saw a remaster and an
> original release under an artist that have the same tracks, would you merge
> them? Or would you follow what it says on
> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/HowToMergeReleases ?
indeed, i just saw that myself! well it suprises me to be honest - i
thought this practice of merging remasters had wiki support, and i've
been an MBz user for 2 years, and an automod for 1. perhaps it had
support in the past which has since been removed/edited? or perhaps it
is simply the logical approach considering everything else we do
(IMO!).
> It's frustrating to get notes and no votes berating one for not following
> the rules, and then run into problems with people citing "I've only seen it
> done this way" or "I got voted down when I tried this" instead of actual
> guidelines and whatnot. If people are going to vote something up or down,
> it should be because of official guidelines, otherwise, what's the point of
> having them? This goes for more than just this one instance.
they're just 'guidelines', so people keep telling me :) i agree this
need to be changed, or at least re-discussed. but
data-retention/removal discussion seems to go everywhere and nowhere
at the moment :)
> (Also, I don't see how classifying a specifc release as being a remaster is
> outside the scope of MBz when we have an AdvancedRelationship just for that
> purpose)
i always thought that one was to relate remasters with bonus tracks,
which of course are seperately indexed.
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>
> Gecks wrote:
> >
> >
> > for the record, none of my 100+ subscribed artists has a single
> > unmerged remaster. nor indeed has any got any mention of that fact in
> > the annotation. it's just outside of MBz scope IMO.
> >
>
> I haven't seen it, either, really, and I'm fine if this discussion leads to
> changes, but doesn't that just mean that people aren't following the rules
> as they're set forth on the wiki? I mean, if you saw a remaster and an
> original release under an artist that have the same tracks, would you merge
> them? Or would you follow what it says on
> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/HowToMergeReleases ?
indeed, i just saw that myself! well it suprises me to be honest - i
thought this practice of merging remasters had wiki support, and i've
been an MBz user for 2 years, and an automod for 1. perhaps it had
support in the past which has since been removed/edited? or perhaps it
is simply the logical approach considering everything else we do
(IMO!).
> It's frustrating to get notes and no votes berating one for not following
> the rules, and then run into problems with people citing "I've only seen it
> done this way" or "I got voted down when I tried this" instead of actual
> guidelines and whatnot. If people are going to vote something up or down,
> it should be because of official guidelines, otherwise, what's the point of
> having them? This goes for more than just this one instance.
they're just 'guidelines', so people keep telling me :) i agree this
need to be changed, or at least re-discussed. but
data-retention/removal discussion seems to go everywhere and nowhere
at the moment :)
> (Also, I don't see how classifying a specifc release as being a remaster is
> outside the scope of MBz when we have an AdvancedRelationship just for that
> purpose)
i always thought that one was to relate remasters with bonus tracks,
which of course are seperately indexed.
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