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Re: Concerns about Zend_Filter_Input
by Christopher Thompson-2
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I also don't think it makes sense given the changes made (and needed) to
do 1.0 so fast. On the other hand, it might be better to push a 1.0 out,
let the community use it for 6 months, and then make the necessary
changes for a 2.0 that will be the more stable long term release. I
think the current track means that 1.0 will really be a public beta and
2.0 will be the real 1.0.
Kevin McArthur wrote:
> Why the push to 1.0 so fast, when things can't as readily be changed after?
>
> With so many changes in 0.8 and now some serious 0.9 changes, might make
> sense to slow down the run-up to 1.0 a bit. If not, then the same level
> of change will occur post 1.0 and instead of point releases, there'll be
> a bi-monthly majorversion jump.
>
> I'd propose a 0.8.5, 0.9.5 and 0.9.9 before 1.0 might give time to get
> all the API changes out of the way.
>
> $0.02
>
> Kevin
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Karwin" <bill.k@...>
> To: "Ed Finkler" <coj@...>
> Cc: "Zend FW Core List" <fw-core@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:58 PM
> Subject: RE: [fw-core] Concerns about Zend_Filter_Input
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Finkler [mailto:coj@...]
>>
>> Let me reiterate my second question:
>>
>> "2) Will a similar replacement component, one that forces developers
> to
>> access user input via a filtering API, be included in the 1.0RC?"
>
> No, there will not be such a component in ZF 1.0.
>
> We're very close to our scheduled feature-freeze for Zend Framework 1.0
> (March 15). A solution to satisfy the use case you describe is not
> going to be implemented by our deadline.
>
>> Can any of the filter classes that are now part of the ZFW process
>> arrays? All of the usage cases I see are handling scalars.
>
> Right, currently the Zend_Filter classes operate on scalars. Using
> these classes to apply filtering and validation to arrays or other
> aggregations of data is left for the developer to do, in a manner
> appropriate for his application.
>
> We encourage proposals for solutions that utilize the Zend_Filter and
> Zend_Validate classes, to apply filtering and validation to aggregations
> of input data. So far there has been discussion, but no design has been
> formally proposed.
>
> We will evaluate the proposals and a solution will be added in a future
> release of Zend Framework (e.g. 1.1 or later).
>
> Regards,
> Bill Karwin
>
do 1.0 so fast. On the other hand, it might be better to push a 1.0 out,
let the community use it for 6 months, and then make the necessary
changes for a 2.0 that will be the more stable long term release. I
think the current track means that 1.0 will really be a public beta and
2.0 will be the real 1.0.
Kevin McArthur wrote:
> Why the push to 1.0 so fast, when things can't as readily be changed after?
>
> With so many changes in 0.8 and now some serious 0.9 changes, might make
> sense to slow down the run-up to 1.0 a bit. If not, then the same level
> of change will occur post 1.0 and instead of point releases, there'll be
> a bi-monthly majorversion jump.
>
> I'd propose a 0.8.5, 0.9.5 and 0.9.9 before 1.0 might give time to get
> all the API changes out of the way.
>
> $0.02
>
> Kevin
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Karwin" <bill.k@...>
> To: "Ed Finkler" <coj@...>
> Cc: "Zend FW Core List" <fw-core@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:58 PM
> Subject: RE: [fw-core] Concerns about Zend_Filter_Input
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Finkler [mailto:coj@...]
>>
>> Let me reiterate my second question:
>>
>> "2) Will a similar replacement component, one that forces developers
> to
>> access user input via a filtering API, be included in the 1.0RC?"
>
> No, there will not be such a component in ZF 1.0.
>
> We're very close to our scheduled feature-freeze for Zend Framework 1.0
> (March 15). A solution to satisfy the use case you describe is not
> going to be implemented by our deadline.
>
>> Can any of the filter classes that are now part of the ZFW process
>> arrays? All of the usage cases I see are handling scalars.
>
> Right, currently the Zend_Filter classes operate on scalars. Using
> these classes to apply filtering and validation to arrays or other
> aggregations of data is left for the developer to do, in a manner
> appropriate for his application.
>
> We encourage proposals for solutions that utilize the Zend_Filter and
> Zend_Validate classes, to apply filtering and validation to aggregations
> of input data. So far there has been discussion, but no design has been
> formally proposed.
>
> We will evaluate the proposals and a solution will be added in a future
> release of Zend Framework (e.g. 1.1 or later).
>
> Regards,
> Bill Karwin
>
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