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Re: Date Picker thoughts
by Aaron Zeckoski
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I like the time picker that google calendar uses. It is pretty easy to
use and you can just type in the time if you like also. -AZ On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Colin Clark <colin.clark@...> wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm re-directing this thread on-list so others can join in. Fluid is > working on designs for a unified date/time picker. I apologize that we > haven't done a better job of publicizing this work. Here are Erin Yu's > in-progress designs: > > http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Date+Picker+Widget > > Antranig will likely be helping her to implement this, but if you're > interested in lending a hand, we'd love your help. We haven't yet > settled a date widget to reuse. Antranig has had good luck with the > YUI widget. The jQuery UI widget has potential. Both need significant > accessibility work to be useful. > > We've launched a new Mozilla Foundation-funded project to help improve > accessibility in the jQuery community. There's a news article on the > Fluid Project website and we've created a new jQuery-a11y forum as well: > > http://fluidproject.org/ > http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-a11y > > Colin > > On 5-Mar-08, at 12:21 PM, Noah Botimer wrote: > > > Cool. It seemed pretty good when I beat on it for a couple of > > minutes. I don't know what the keyboard/screen-reader accessibility > > is like, but I bet it'd be easier (and better received) to fix it in > > their component than build one from the ground up. > > > > Maybe we can use their basic structural model to make a time > > picker... A lot of the same kinds of formatting things apply, from > > needing a single selection mode to a range, to the textual order/ > > separators varying by locale (yyyy-mm-dd vs. mm/dd/yy || h:m vs. > > HH.mm, etc.). > > > > Any added thoughts, Colin? > > > > Thanks, > > -Noah > > > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Gonzalo Silverio wrote: > > > >> Looks good, Noah. > >> > >> It does seem to do what is required and seems lighter than the Dojo > >> one. About the only thing I do not see and know is a requirement > >> is a time pick component. > >> > >> -Gonzalo > >> > >> On 3/5/08 11:20 AM, "Noah Botimer" <botimer@...> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Gonzalo, > >>> > >>> In my travels, I spotted a conversation about dates and someone > >>> mentioned the jQuery UI Date Picker. Do you know if Sakai or > >>> Fluid are aware of it? It seems to have rich/easy localization > >>> support, and we're already leaning on jQuery. There are about 20 > >>> localizations already done, too. It might be a nice fit, and it's > >>> getting active development and visibility. > >>> > >>> http://marcgrabanski.com/code/ui-datepicker/ > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> -Noah > >>> > >> > > > > --- > Colin Clark > Technical Lead, Fluid Project > Adaptive Technology Resource Centre, University of Toronto > http://fluidproject.org > > _______________________________________________ > fluid-work mailing list > fluid-work@... > http://fluidproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-work > -- Aaron Zeckoski (aaronz@...) Senior Research Engineer - CARET - Cambridge University [http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/~aaronz/] Sakai Fellow - [http://aaronz-sakai.blogspot.com/] ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org/portal) from the DG: User Experience site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences. |
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Re: Date Picker thoughts
by Noah Botimer
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Colin,
I guess I asked an answerable question, anyway (yes, you are aware of it). I knew that we were interested in the YUI one, but didn't know how it was faring in implementation. I do know that it is very important that we (at least in Sakai) are able to drop in whatever we choose, easily, with some parameters, in the various view technologies before there will be any real impetus for adoption across existing tools. I'm excited about this new grant. I really like jQuery, so it's nice to know that it will get some funded accessibility attention. Thanks for the update. I'll remember to check the Fluid wiki in the future. A side note: all searchable references to "Sakai UI", "DG: UI", and "sakai-dg-ui" are gone from collab. It might be helpful to get "previously DG: UI, sakai-dg-ui" into the short description. I also found that the Membership > Joinable search is case-sensitive as trivia. Thanks, -Noah On Mar 5, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Colin Clark wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm re-directing this thread on-list so others can join in. Fluid > is working on designs for a unified date/time picker. I apologize > that we haven't done a better job of publicizing this work. Here > are Erin Yu's in-progress designs: > > http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Date+Picker+Widget > > Antranig will likely be helping her to implement this, but if > you're interested in lending a hand, we'd love your help. We > haven't yet settled a date widget to reuse. Antranig has had good > luck with the YUI widget. The jQuery UI widget has potential. Both > need significant accessibility work to be useful. > > We've launched a new Mozilla Foundation-funded project to help > improve accessibility in the jQuery community. There's a news > article on the Fluid Project website and we've created a new jQuery- > a11y forum as well: > > http://fluidproject.org/ > http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-a11y > > Colin > > On 5-Mar-08, at 12:21 PM, Noah Botimer wrote: > >> Cool. It seemed pretty good when I beat on it for a couple of >> minutes. I don't know what the keyboard/screen-reader >> accessibility is like, but I bet it'd be easier (and better >> received) to fix it in their component than build one from the >> ground up. >> >> Maybe we can use their basic structural model to make a time >> picker... A lot of the same kinds of formatting things apply, >> from needing a single selection mode to a range, to the textual >> order/separators varying by locale (yyyy-mm-dd vs. mm/dd/yy || h:m >> vs. HH.mm, etc.). >> >> Any added thoughts, Colin? >> >> Thanks, >> -Noah >> >> On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Gonzalo Silverio wrote: >> >>> Looks good, Noah. >>> >>> It does seem to do what is required and seems lighter than the >>> Dojo one. About the only thing I do not see and know is a >>> requirement is a time pick component. >>> >>> -Gonzalo >>> >>> On 3/5/08 11:20 AM, "Noah Botimer" <botimer@...> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Gonzalo, >>>> >>>> In my travels, I spotted a conversation about dates and someone >>>> mentioned the jQuery UI Date Picker. Do you know if Sakai or >>>> Fluid are aware of it? It seems to have rich/easy localization >>>> support, and we're already leaning on jQuery. There are about >>>> 20 localizations already done, too. It might be a nice fit, and >>>> it's getting active development and visibility. >>>> >>>> http://marcgrabanski.com/code/ui-datepicker/ >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> -Noah >>>> >>> >> > > --- > Colin Clark > Technical Lead, Fluid Project > Adaptive Technology Resource Centre, University of Toronto > http://fluidproject.org > > > ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org/portal) from the DG: User Experience site. You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences. |
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RE: Date Picker thoughts
by Harriet Truscott
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Hi people
Aaron and I had a small request from heuristic analyis of the RSF date picker widget. We'd like to see it appear in RSF date picker, but also in any new date pickers. Basically, it's very simple. 12:00am - what's that? 12:00pm - what's that? 00:00pm on 3 March - erm, so that's actually midnight on the 2nd? 24:00pm on 3 March - erm, midnight on the 3rd? So we'd like a date picker to say Midnight, 2 March Noon, 3 March None of this 12:00, 0:00 or 24:00 business! How does it sound to others? Harriet - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies University of Cambridge 16 Mill Lane Cambridge 01223 765 040 > -----Original Message----- > From: azeckoski@... [mailto:azeckoski@...] On > Behalf Of Aaron Zeckoski > Sent: 05 March 2008 19:20 > To: Colin Clark > Cc: Noah Botimer; Gonzalo Silverio; Sakai UI UI; > fluid-work@... > Subject: Re: Date Picker thoughts > > I like the time picker that google calendar uses. It is > pretty easy to use and you can just type in the time if you like also. > -AZ > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Colin Clark > <colin.clark@...> wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I'm re-directing this thread on-list so others can join > in. Fluid is > > working on designs for a unified date/time picker. I > apologize that we > > haven't done a better job of publicizing this work. Here > are Erin Yu's > > in-progress designs: > > > > http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Date+Picker+Widget > > > > Antranig will likely be helping her to implement this, but > if you're > > interested in lending a hand, we'd love your help. We haven't yet > > settled a date widget to reuse. Antranig has had good luck > with the > > YUI widget. The jQuery UI widget has potential. Both need > significant > > accessibility work to be useful. > > > > We've launched a new Mozilla Foundation-funded project to help > > improve accessibility in the jQuery community. There's a > news article > > on the Fluid Project website and we've created a new > jQuery-a11y forum as well: > > > > http://fluidproject.org/ > > http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-a11y > > > > Colin > > > > On 5-Mar-08, at 12:21 PM, Noah Botimer wrote: > > > > > Cool. It seemed pretty good when I beat on it for a > couple of > > > minutes. I don't know what the keyboard/screen-reader > accessibility > > > is like, but I bet it'd be easier (and better received) > to fix it in > > > their component than build one from the ground up. > > > > > > Maybe we can use their basic structural model to make a time > > > picker... A lot of the same kinds of formatting things > apply, from > > > needing a single selection mode to a range, to the textual > order/ > > > separators varying by locale (yyyy-mm-dd vs. mm/dd/yy || h:m vs. > > > HH.mm, etc.). > > > > > > Any added thoughts, Colin? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > -Noah > > > > > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Gonzalo Silverio wrote: > > > > > >> Looks good, Noah. > > >> > > >> It does seem to do what is required and seems lighter than the > > Dojo >> one. About the only thing I do not see and know is a > > requirement >> is a time pick component. > > >> > > >> -Gonzalo > > >> > > >> On 3/5/08 11:20 AM, "Noah Botimer" <botimer@...> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Gonzalo, > > >>> > > >>> In my travels, I spotted a conversation about dates > and someone > > >>> mentioned the jQuery UI Date Picker. Do you know if > Sakai or >>> > > Fluid are aware of it? It seems to have rich/easy > localization >>> > > support, and we're already leaning on jQuery. There are > about 20 >>> > > localizations already done, too. It might be a nice fit, and it's > > >>> getting active development and visibility. > > >>> > > >>> http://marcgrabanski.com/code/ui-datepicker/ > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> -Noah > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > --- > > Colin Clark > > Technical Lead, Fluid Project > > Adaptive Technology Resource Centre, University of Toronto > > http://fluidproject.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fluid-work mailing list > > fluid-work@... > > http://fluidproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-work > > > > > > -- > Aaron Zeckoski (aaronz@...) > Senior Research Engineer - CARET - Cambridge University > [http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/~aaronz/] > Sakai Fellow - [http://aaronz-sakai.blogspot.com/] > > ---------------------- > This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab > (https://collab.sakaiproject.org/portal) from the DG: User > Experience site. > You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > > Preferences. > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1312 - Release > Date: 04/03/2008 21:46 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Re: Date Picker thoughts
by Aaron Zeckoski
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For reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clock#Confusion_at_noon_and_midnight And a snippet or two: To avoid confusion, the correct designation for twelve o'clock is 12 noon or 12 midnight. Alternatively, the twenty-four-hour-clock system may be used. The abbreviation a.m. stands for ante-meridiem (before the Sun has crossed the line) and p.m. for post-meridiem (after the Sun has crossed the line). At 12 noon the Sun is at its highest point in the sky and directly over the meridian. It is therefore neither "ante-" nor "post-". Many U.S. style guides (including the NIST website) recommend that it is clearest if one refers to "noon" or "12:00 noon" and "midnight" or "12:00 midnight" (rather than to "12:00 p.m." and "12:00 a.m.", respectively). Some other style guides suggest "12:00 n" for noon and "12:00 m" for midnight,[11] but that conflicts with the older tradition of using "12:00 m" for noon[1](Latin meridies), and "12:00 mn" for midnight (Latin media nox). The Canadian Press Stylebook (11th Edition, 1999, page 288) says, "write noon or midnight, not 12 noon or 12 midnight." Phrases such as "12 a.m." and "12 p.m." are not mentioned at all. -AZ On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Harriet Truscott <harriet@...> wrote: > Hi people > > Aaron and I had a small request from heuristic analyis of the RSF date > picker widget. We'd like to see it appear in RSF date picker, but also in > any new date pickers. > > Basically, it's very simple. > > 12:00am - what's that? > 12:00pm - what's that? > 00:00pm on 3 March - erm, so that's actually midnight on the 2nd? > 24:00pm on 3 March - erm, midnight on the 3rd? > > So we'd like a date picker to say > > Midnight, 2 March > Noon, 3 March > > None of this 12:00, 0:00 or 24:00 business! > > How does it sound to others? > > Harriet > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies > University of Cambridge > 16 Mill Lane > Cambridge > 01223 765 040 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: azeckoski@... [mailto:azeckoski@...] On > > Behalf Of Aaron Zeckoski > > Sent: 05 March 2008 19:20 > > To: Colin Clark > > Cc: Noah Botimer; Gonzalo Silverio; Sakai UI UI; > > fluid-work@... > > Subject: Re: Date Picker thoughts > > > > I like the time picker that google calendar uses. It is > > pretty easy to use and you can just type in the time if you like also. > > -AZ > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Colin Clark > > <colin.clark@...> wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > I'm re-directing this thread on-list so others can join > > in. Fluid is > > > working on designs for a unified date/time picker. I > > apologize that we > > > haven't done a better job of publicizing this work. Here > > are Erin Yu's > > > in-progress designs: > > > > > > http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Date+Picker+Widget > > > > > > Antranig will likely be helping her to implement this, but > > if you're > > > interested in lending a hand, we'd love your help. We haven't yet > > > settled a date widget to reuse. Antranig has had good luck > > with the > > > YUI widget. The jQuery UI widget has potential. Both need > > significant > > > accessibility work to be useful. > > > > > > We've launched a new Mozilla Foundation-funded project to help > > > improve accessibility in the jQuery community. There's a > > news article > > > on the Fluid Project website and we've created a new > > jQuery-a11y forum as well: > > > > > > http://fluidproject.org/ > > > http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-a11y > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > On 5-Mar-08, at 12:21 PM, Noah Botimer wrote: > > > > > > > Cool. It seemed pretty good when I beat on it for a > > couple of > > > > minutes. I don't know what the keyboard/screen-reader > > accessibility > > > > is like, but I bet it'd be easier (and better received) > > to fix it in > > > > their component than build one from the ground up. > > > > > > > > Maybe we can use their basic structural model to make a time > > > > picker... A lot of the same kinds of formatting things > > apply, from > > > > needing a single selection mode to a range, to the textual > > order/ > > > > separators varying by locale (yyyy-mm-dd vs. mm/dd/yy || h:m vs. > > > > HH.mm, etc.). > > > > > > > > Any added thoughts, Colin? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Noah > > > > > > > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Gonzalo Silverio wrote: > > > > > > > >> Looks good, Noah. > > > >> > > > >> It does seem to do what is required and seems lighter than the > > > Dojo >> one. About the only thing I do not see and know is a > > > requirement >> is a time pick component. > > > >> > > > >> -Gonzalo > > > >> > > > >> On 3/5/08 11:20 AM, "Noah Botimer" <botimer@...> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hi Gonzalo, > > > >>> > > > >>> In my travels, I spotted a conversation about dates > > and someone > > > >>> mentioned the jQuery UI Date Picker. Do you know if > > Sakai or >>> > > > Fluid are aware of it? It seems to have rich/easy > > localization >>> > > > support, and we're already leaning on jQuery. There are > > about 20 >>> > > > localizations already done, too. It might be a nice fit, and it's > > > >>> getting active development and visibility. > > > >>> > > > >>> http://marcgrabanski.com/code/ui-datepicker/ > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks, > > > >>> -Noah > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Colin Clark > > > Technical Lead, Fluid Project > > > Adaptive Technology Resource Centre, University of Toronto > > > http://fluidproject.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fluid-work mailing list > > > fluid-work@... > > > http://fluidproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-work > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Aaron Zeckoski (aaronz@...) > > Senior Research Engineer - CARET - Cambridge University > > [http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/~aaronz/] > > Sakai Fellow - [http://aaronz-sakai.blogspot.com/] > > > > ---------------------- > > This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab > > (https://collab.sakaiproject.org/portal) from the DG: User > > Experience site. > > You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > > > Preferences. > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1312 - Release > > Date: 04/03/2008 21:46 > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1312 - Release Date: 04/03/2008 > 21:46 > > > -- Aaron Zeckoski (aaronz@...) 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RE: Date Picker thoughts
by Peter Knoop
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This is an interesting observation Harriet, and it's worth considering
its implication beyond the just the picking side of the equation. The problem you've hit on is perhaps even more common after a date has been picked, such as a student reading the due date and time for an Assignment. It would be great to see the standard for presenting date/time data in Sakai kept in sync with new date/time-pickers as they are adopted. -peter > -----Original Message----- > From: Harriet Truscott [mailto:harriet@...] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:33 PM > To: 'Aaron Zeckoski'; 'Colin Clark' > Cc: Botimer, Noah; Silverio, Gonzalo; 'Sakai UI UI'; fluid- > work@... > Subject: RE: Date Picker thoughts > > Hi people > > Aaron and I had a small request from heuristic analyis of the RSF date > picker widget. We'd like to see it appear in RSF date picker, but also > in > any new date pickers. > > Basically, it's very simple. > > 12:00am - what's that? > 12:00pm - what's that? > 00:00pm on 3 March - erm, so that's actually midnight on the 2nd? > 24:00pm on 3 March - erm, midnight on the 3rd? > > So we'd like a date picker to say > > Midnight, 2 March > Noon, 3 March > > None of this 12:00, 0:00 or 24:00 business! > > How does it sound to others? > > Harriet > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies > University of Cambridge > 16 Mill Lane > Cambridge > 01223 765 040 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: azeckoski@... [mailto:azeckoski@...] On > > Behalf Of Aaron Zeckoski > > Sent: 05 March 2008 19:20 > > To: Colin Clark > > Cc: Noah Botimer; Gonzalo Silverio; Sakai UI UI; > > fluid-work@... > > Subject: Re: Date Picker thoughts > > > > I like the time picker that google calendar uses. It is > > pretty easy to use and you can just type in the time if you like > also. > > -AZ > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Colin Clark > > <colin.clark@...> wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > I'm re-directing this thread on-list so others can join > > in. Fluid is > > > working on designs for a unified date/time picker. I > > apologize that we > > > haven't done a better job of publicizing this work. Here > > are Erin Yu's > > > in-progress designs: > > > > > > http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Date+Picker+Widget > > > > > > Antranig will likely be helping her to implement this, but > > if you're > > > interested in lending a hand, we'd love your help. We haven't yet > > > settled a date widget to reuse. Antranig has had good luck > > with the > > > YUI widget. The jQuery UI widget has potential. Both need > > significant > > > accessibility work to be useful. > > > > > > We've launched a new Mozilla Foundation-funded project to help > > > improve accessibility in the jQuery community. There's a > > news article > > > on the Fluid Project website and we've created a new > > jQuery-a11y forum as well: > > > > > > http://fluidproject.org/ > > > http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-a11y > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > On 5-Mar-08, at 12:21 PM, Noah Botimer wrote: > > > > > > > Cool. It seemed pretty good when I beat on it for a > > couple of > > > > minutes. I don't know what the keyboard/screen-reader > > accessibility > > > > is like, but I bet it'd be easier (and better received) > > to fix it in > > > > their component than build one from the ground up. > > > > > > > > Maybe we can use their basic structural model to make a time > > > > picker... A lot of the same kinds of formatting things > > apply, from > > > > needing a single selection mode to a range, to the textual > > order/ > > > > separators varying by locale (yyyy-mm-dd vs. mm/dd/yy || h:m vs. > > > > HH.mm, etc.). > > > > > > > > Any added thoughts, Colin? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Noah > > > > > > > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Gonzalo Silverio wrote: > > > > > > > >> Looks good, Noah. > > > >> > > > >> It does seem to do what is required and seems lighter than the > > > Dojo >> one. About the only thing I do not see and know is a > > > requirement >> is a time pick component. > > > >> > > > >> -Gonzalo > > > >> > > > >> On 3/5/08 11:20 AM, "Noah Botimer" <botimer@...> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hi Gonzalo, > > > >>> > > > >>> In my travels, I spotted a conversation about dates > > and someone > > > >>> mentioned the jQuery UI Date Picker. Do you know if > > Sakai or >>> > > > Fluid are aware of it? It seems to have rich/easy > > localization >>> > > > support, and we're already leaning on jQuery. There are > > about 20 >>> > > > localizations already done, too. It might be a nice fit, and it's > > > >>> getting active development and visibility. > > > >>> > > > >>> http://marcgrabanski.com/code/ui-datepicker/ > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks, > > > >>> -Noah > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Colin Clark > > > Technical Lead, Fluid Project > > > Adaptive Technology Resource Centre, University of Toronto > > > http://fluidproject.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fluid-work mailing list > > > fluid-work@... > > > http://fluidproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-work > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Aaron Zeckoski (aaronz@...) > > Senior Research Engineer - CARET - Cambridge University > > [http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/~aaronz/] > > Sakai Fellow - [http://aaronz-sakai.blogspot.com/] > > > > ---------------------- > > This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab > > (https://collab.sakaiproject.org/portal) from the DG: User > > Experience site. > > You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > > > Preferences. > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1312 - Release > > Date: 04/03/2008 21:46 > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1312 - Release Date: > 04/03/2008 > 21:46 > > > ---------------------- > This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab > (https://collab.sakaiproject.org/portal) from the DG: User Experience > site. > You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > > Preferences. ---------------------- This automatic notification message was sent by Sakai Collab (https://collab.sakaiproject.org/portal) from the DG: User Experience site. 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