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by Jaap A. Haitsma :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Guy,

Thanks for the patch. I decided to change it slightly. Basically I
make people attentive at the top of the page that they can increase
their donation. Basically the same as with the one time donations.
That way it is more consistent. Furthermore I added a sentence like
you did to explicitly ask people if they want to make a larger
difference.

It's already live on http://www.gnome.org/friends/

Jaap

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:08, Guy Lunardi<glunardi@...> wrote:

> Jaap,
>
> Finally found a few minutes to get back to this. Sorry it took so long,
> I was away this weekend in Florence and swamped before that.
>
> Not sure if the format will work for you but here is an attempt at a
> patch for the page that includes the changes I suggested.
>
> The front page of friends would need to change to reflect the new
> monthly subscription options.
>
> Best regards,
> -Guy
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 08:15 +0200, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
>> Guy,
>>
>> Have you had time to work on your patch?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jaap
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 18:43, Guy Lunardi<glunardi@...> wrote:
>> > Awesome,
>> >
>> > I will do that later today. Got distracted looking at the terms and
>> > conditions of Paypal's subscription service. Not as clean as I would
>> > like them to be but I have not found an alternative.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > -Guy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 19:56 +0200, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
>> >> Hi Guy,
>> >>
>> >> You can get the sources from git
>> >> http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnomeweb-wml/tree/www.gnome.org/friends
>> >>
>> >> you can also clone the complete gnomeweb-wml repo. It allows you to
>> >> also test your code
>> >>
>> >> Jaap
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 15:39, Guy Lunardi<glunardi@...> wrote:
>> >> > Jaap,
>> >> >
>> >> > If you could please send me the step2.php file from the server side, I
>> >> > will make the diff from that for you.
>> >> >
>> >> > I can only see the generated HTML coming out of the webserver and I am
>> >> > sure it is stripping out php content from the original document.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> > -Guy
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:58 +0200, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Guy,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nice work. If the people like your changes you can sent me the patch
>> >> >> and I can commit it for you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'd move the section "Feel like making a difference? Select the amount
>> >> >> you wish to donate every month:"
>> >> >> to the top of the page.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would also add an option to do $100 and a free form option where
>> >> >> people can fill in the amount they would like to contribute.
>> >> >> We probably should check if the amount is more than 10$ or are we fine
>> >> >> if people contribute less or we should only sent a t-shirt whenever a
>> >> >> year has passed and 120$ has been contributed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What do others think?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jaap
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 06:05, Guy Lunardi<glunardi@...> wrote:
>> >> >> > Stormy,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I looked into this rather quickly but it seems rather straightforward on
>> >> >> > the Paypal side. We need to make a few changes to our HTML form and that
>> >> >> > should be it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > We would need to make the following changes to the form:
>> >> >> >  -  Change "cmd" from "_s-xclick" to "_xclick-subscriptions"
>> >> >> >  -  Add "a3" input which define the amount of the donation
>> >> >> >  -  Add "p3" input with a value of "1" (every month)
>> >> >> >  -  Add "t3" input with a value of "M" (Monthly)
>> >> >> >  -  Add "src" input with a value of "1" (recurring)
>> >> >> >  -  Rename "item_name" to remove "$10/month"
>> >> >> >  -  Remove references to "for a monthly amount of $10"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > There are many way to handle "a3" (the donation amount):
>> >> >> >  - We use HTML radio elements like the rest of the form
>> >> >> >  - Use javascript to create the form (unnecessary)
>> >> >> >  - ...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > While I was procrastinating this evening waiting for Miguel to be ready
>> >> >> > to go home, I made a sample page with most of these edits:
>> >> >> > http://www.487massave.org/friends/step2.html
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It should be live and connect to Paypal... I did not test all the way, I
>> >> >> > don't have any privileges to make changes to the actual page but will be
>> >> >> > happy to walk anyone to the changes I made to the page above.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Best regards,
>> >> >> > -Guy
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 15:29 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
>> >> >> >> Anybody like to take this on? Maybe when you click on monthly, there's
>> >> >> >> a link that says "different amounts" and that takes you to a page with
>> >> >> >> different amounts. (I'm not the ui designer though!)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Stormy
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> >> >> From: John Palmieri <johnp@...>
>> >> >> >> Date: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:14 AM
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Friends of GNOME
>> >> >> >> To: Stormy Peters <stormy@...>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi Stormy,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Nice touch with the e-mail actually.  It is nice to see a human behind
>> >> >> >> all of this instead of the automated beast that is PayPal.  It really
>> >> >> >> took a bit to find out how to cancel the subscriptions but since you
>> >> >> >> have to go through PayPal people will blame them :)  In any case Zana
>> >> >> >> set up a link for me.  I suggested to her that we set up links for
>> >> >> >> $10, $20, $30, $40, $50 and $100 a month (you won't get it if you
>> >> >> >> don't ask for it as it is really a pain to sign up for multiple
>> >> >> >> subscriptions).  This can be done by having the first page redirect to
>> >> >> >> a second page where there are radio buttons for each amount with the
>> >> >> >> $10 being selected by default.  When the user hits the submit button
>> >> >> >> we simply redirect them to the correct PayPal link.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> John
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ----- "Stormy Peters" <stormy@...> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Hey! Never mind my last mail.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > How'd you get a $50 subscription set up??
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks very much!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Stormy
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Stormy Peters < stormy@... >
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Hi John,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I saw you canceled your Friends of GNOME subscription.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I just wanted to let you know that we appreciate your contributions.
>> >> >> >> > If there's anything I can do to help you, let me know. (And if you
>> >> >> >> > have any feedback for the Friends of GNOME program, please let me
>> >> >> >> > know!)
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Best,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Stormy
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Stormy Peters
>> >> >> >> > Executive Director
>> >> >> >> > GNOME Foundation
>> >> >> >> > 970-481-2076
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> John (J5) Palmieri
>> >> >> >> Software Engineer
>> >> >> >> Red Hat, Inc.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
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>> >> >> >> marketing-list@...
>> >> >> >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
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>> >> >> > marketing-list@...
>> >> >> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: Different subscription amounts for Friends of GNOME

by Stormy Peters-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Guy, Jaap,

Thanks so much for enabling people to sign up with varying amounts. This is probably the single most requested feature in the Friends sign up process.

Two requests:
- Can we change the default to $25?
- Can we move the $ to before the input field?

Thanks,

Stormy

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma <jaap@...> wrote:
Hi Guy,

Thanks for the patch. I decided to change it slightly. Basically I
make people attentive at the top of the page that they can increase
their donation. Basically the same as with the one time donations.
That way it is more consistent. Furthermore I added a sentence like
you did to explicitly ask people if they want to make a larger
difference.

It's already live on http://www.gnome.org/friends/

Jaap

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:08, Guy Lunardi<glunardi@...> wrote:
> Jaap,
>
> Finally found a few minutes to get back to this. Sorry it took so long,
> I was away this weekend in Florence and swamped before that.
>
> Not sure if the format will work for you but here is an attempt at a
> patch for the page that includes the changes I suggested.
>
> The front page of friends would need to change to reflect the new
> monthly subscription options.
>
> Best regards,
> -Guy
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 08:15 +0200, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
>> Guy,
>>
>> Have you had time to work on your patch?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jaap
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 18:43, Guy Lunardi<glunardi@...> wrote:
>> > Awesome,
>> >
>> > I will do that later today. Got distracted looking at the terms and
>> > conditions of Paypal's subscription service. Not as clean as I would
>> > like them to be but I have not found an alternative.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > -Guy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 19:56 +0200, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
>> >> Hi Guy,
>> >>
>> >> You can get the sources from git
>> >> http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnomeweb-wml/tree/www.gnome.org/friends
>> >>
>> >> you can also clone the complete gnomeweb-wml repo. It allows you to
>> >> also test your code
>> >>
>> >> Jaap
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 15:39, Guy Lunardi<glunardi@...> wrote:
>> >> > Jaap,
>> >> >
>> >> > If you could please send me the step2.php file from the server side, I
>> >> > will make the diff from that for you.
>> >> >
>> >> > I can only see the generated HTML coming out of the webserver and I am
>> >> > sure it is stripping out php content from the original document.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> > -Guy
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:58 +0200, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Guy,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nice work. If the people like your changes you can sent me the patch
>> >> >> and I can commit it for you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'd move the section "Feel like making a difference? Select the amount
>> >> >> you wish to donate every month:"
>> >> >> to the top of the page.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would also add an option to do $100 and a free form option where
>> >> >> people can fill in the amount they would like to contribute.
>> >> >> We probably should check if the amount is more than 10$ or are we fine
>> >> >> if people contribute less or we should only sent a t-shirt whenever a
>> >> >> year has passed and 120$ has been contributed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What do others think?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jaap
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 06:05, Guy Lunardi<glunardi@...> wrote:
>> >> >> > Stormy,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I looked into this rather quickly but it seems rather straightforward on
>> >> >> > the Paypal side. We need to make a few changes to our HTML form and that
>> >> >> > should be it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > We would need to make the following changes to the form:
>> >> >> >  -  Change "cmd" from "_s-xclick" to "_xclick-subscriptions"
>> >> >> >  -  Add "a3" input which define the amount of the donation
>> >> >> >  -  Add "p3" input with a value of "1" (every month)
>> >> >> >  -  Add "t3" input with a value of "M" (Monthly)
>> >> >> >  -  Add "src" input with a value of "1" (recurring)
>> >> >> >  -  Rename "item_name" to remove "$10/month"
>> >> >> >  -  Remove references to "for a monthly amount of $10"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > There are many way to handle "a3" (the donation amount):
>> >> >> >  - We use HTML radio elements like the rest of the form
>> >> >> >  - Use javascript to create the form (unnecessary)
>> >> >> >  - ...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > While I was procrastinating this evening waiting for Miguel to be ready
>> >> >> > to go home, I made a sample page with most of these edits:
>> >> >> > http://www.487massave.org/friends/step2.html
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It should be live and connect to Paypal... I did not test all the way, I
>> >> >> > don't have any privileges to make changes to the actual page but will be
>> >> >> > happy to walk anyone to the changes I made to the page above.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Best regards,
>> >> >> > -Guy
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 15:29 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
>> >> >> >> Anybody like to take this on? Maybe when you click on monthly, there's
>> >> >> >> a link that says "different amounts" and that takes you to a page with
>> >> >> >> different amounts. (I'm not the ui designer though!)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Stormy
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> >> >> From: John Palmieri <johnp@...>
>> >> >> >> Date: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:14 AM
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Friends of GNOME
>> >> >> >> To: Stormy Peters <stormy@...>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi Stormy,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Nice touch with the e-mail actually.  It is nice to see a human behind
>> >> >> >> all of this instead of the automated beast that is PayPal.  It really
>> >> >> >> took a bit to find out how to cancel the subscriptions but since you
>> >> >> >> have to go through PayPal people will blame them :)  In any case Zana
>> >> >> >> set up a link for me.  I suggested to her that we set up links for
>> >> >> >> $10, $20, $30, $40, $50 and $100 a month (you won't get it if you
>> >> >> >> don't ask for it as it is really a pain to sign up for multiple
>> >> >> >> subscriptions).  This can be done by having the first page redirect to
>> >> >> >> a second page where there are radio buttons for each amount with the
>> >> >> >> $10 being selected by default.  When the user hits the submit button
>> >> >> >> we simply redirect them to the correct PayPal link.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> John
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ----- "Stormy Peters" <stormy@...> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Hey! Never mind my last mail.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > How'd you get a $50 subscription set up??
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks very much!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Stormy
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Stormy Peters < stormy@... >
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Hi John,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I saw you canceled your Friends of GNOME subscription.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I just wanted to let you know that we appreciate your contributions.
>> >> >> >> > If there's anything I can do to help you, let me know. (And if you
>> >> >> >> > have any feedback for the Friends of GNOME program, please let me
>> >> >> >> > know!)
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Best,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Stormy
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Stormy Peters
>> >> >> >> > Executive Director
>> >> >> >> > GNOME Foundation
>> >> >> >> > 970-481-2076
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> John (J5) Palmieri
>> >> >> >> Software Engineer
>> >> >> >> Red Hat, Inc.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> marketing-list mailing list
>> >> >> >> marketing-list@...
>> >> >> >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > marketing-list mailing list
>> >> >> > marketing-list@...
>> >> >> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>
>


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Re: Different subscription amounts for Friends of GNOME

by Jaap A. Haitsma :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 19:50, Stormy Peters<stormy@...> wrote:
> Guy, Jaap,
>
> Thanks so much for enabling people to sign up with varying amounts. This is
> probably the single most requested feature in the Friends sign up process.
>
> Two requests:
> - Can we change the default to $25?
> - Can we move the $ to before the input field?
>
Will do that probably in the coming weekend. Do you also want to
change the text on
http://www.gnome.org/friends/
Now it says 10$ or more. It's a bit weird that the default is then
25$, we might confuse people


Jaap
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Re: Different subscription amounts for Friends of GNOME

by Stormy Peters-2 :: Rate this Message:

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I think it's ok to leave the program at $10 or more and yet make the default $25.

Stormy

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma <jaap@...> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 19:50, Stormy Peters<stormy@...> wrote:
> Guy, Jaap,
>
> Thanks so much for enabling people to sign up with varying amounts. This is
> probably the single most requested feature in the Friends sign up process.
>
> Two requests:
> - Can we change the default to $25?
> - Can we move the $ to before the input field?
>
Will do that probably in the coming weekend. Do you also want to
change the text on
Now it says 10$ or more. It's a bit weird that the default is then
25$, we might confuse people


Jaap


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Re: Different subscription amounts for Friends of GNOME

by Jaap A. Haitsma :: Rate this Message:

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Done. The changes are live now

Stormy,

Are you going to publish the august results of the donations soon

Jaap

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 15:09, Stormy Peters<stormy@...> wrote:

> I think it's ok to leave the program at $10 or more and yet make the default
> $25.
>
> Stormy
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma <jaap@...> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 19:50, Stormy Peters<stormy@...> wrote:
>> > Guy, Jaap,
>> >
>> > Thanks so much for enabling people to sign up with varying amounts. This
>> > is
>> > probably the single most requested feature in the Friends sign up
>> > process.
>> >
>> > Two requests:
>> > - Can we change the default to $25?
>> > - Can we move the $ to before the input field?
>> >
>> Will do that probably in the coming weekend. Do you also want to
>> change the text on
>> http://www.gnome.org/friends/
>> Now it says 10$ or more. It's a bit weird that the default is then
>> 25$, we might confuse people
>>
>>
>> Jaap
>
>
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Re: Different subscription amounts for Friends of GNOME

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On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma <jaap@...> wrote:
Done. The changes are live now

Awesome. Thanks.
 

Are you going to publish the august results of the donations soon

The results are on the wiki. I haven't blogged it yet on the Foundation.

Stormy

Jaap

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 15:09, Stormy Peters<stormy@...> wrote:
> I think it's ok to leave the program at $10 or more and yet make the default
> $25.
>
> Stormy
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma <jaap@...> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 19:50, Stormy Peters<stormy@...> wrote:
>> > Guy, Jaap,
>> >
>> > Thanks so much for enabling people to sign up with varying amounts. This
>> > is
>> > probably the single most requested feature in the Friends sign up
>> > process.
>> >
>> > Two requests:
>> > - Can we change the default to $25?
>> > - Can we move the $ to before the input field?
>> >
>> Will do that probably in the coming weekend. Do you also want to
>> change the text on
>> http://www.gnome.org/friends/
>> Now it says 10$ or more. It's a bit weird that the default is then
>> 25$, we might confuse people
>>
>>
>> Jaap
>
>


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Re: Different subscription amounts for Friends of GNOME

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On 3 Sep 2009, at 09:25, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:

>> Will do that probably in the coming weekend. Do you also want to
> change the text on
> http://www.gnome.org/friends/
> Now it says 10$ or more. It's a bit weird that the default is then
> 25$, we might confuse people

Minor point, but do we need to clarify somewhere in the process that  
this is US dollars people are donating, as opposed to CA/AU/other kind  
of dollars?  (I know they will find out when they get to the PayPal  
stage anyway.)

Cheeri,
Calum.

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Re: Different subscription amounts for Friends of GNOME

by Jaap A. Haitsma :: Rate this Message:

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On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 14:28, Calum Benson <Calum.Benson@...> wrote:

>
> On 3 Sep 2009, at 09:25, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
>
>>> Will do that probably in the coming weekend. Do you also want to
>>
>> change the text on
>> http://www.gnome.org/friends/
>> Now it says 10$ or more. It's a bit weird that the default is then
>> 25$, we might confuse people
>
> Minor point, but do we need to clarify somewhere in the process that this is
> US dollars people are donating, as opposed to CA/AU/other kind of dollars?
>  (I know they will find out when they get to the PayPal stage anyway.)
>
I've added USD behind the amounts
Should be appearing online in a few minutes

Jaap
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