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2009/4/22 Atedos <atedos@...>:

> In my opinion it's pretty clear:
> The Sunlandic Twins (bonus disc)
> Release Attribute: EP
> This is the way it should be presented in the database.
>
> Not "bonus EP" or somtething.
>
> 2009/4/22 James LeVeque <jleveque@...>
>>
>> Hey there,
>>
>> I'm not sure if I've ever brought anything up with MB-Users so, first off:
>> Hi.
>>
>> That taken care of, I have a question about a release that comes with
>> a disc labeled "bonus ep", and how that disc should be entered into
>> MusicBrainz.
>>
>> This release in question here is of Montreal's "The Sunlandic Twins".
>> As you can see in the link I've included below, the disc I'm referring
>> to is labeled "the sunlandic twins  bonus ep". It's entry in
>> MusicBrainz, though, ignores the "bonus ep" and lists it as "The
>> Sunlandic Twins (bonus disc)".
>>
>> I felt that a disc labeled "bonus ep" and entered as "bonus disc" is
>> breaking EP Style, which states, in it's entirety, "If the word "EP"
>> or "E.P." is part of a title, it should be retained.". So I entered an
>> edit to change the title back to "The Sunlandic Twins (bonus EP)"
>>
>> I realized some time afterward that this kinda breaks Disc Number
>> Style, and that a bonus disc that's explictly titled "bonus ep" should
>> technically be listed as (bonus disc: bonus EP), dispite how
>> repetitive that looks.
>>
>> User uraani, however, believes that the disc should be labeled (bonus
>> disc) as it is, and that adding the "EP" would be redundant since the
>> release attribute already covers that fact.
>>
>>
>> Are there any opinions on this?
>> I am extremely confident that the labeling of the disc, plus the
>> listing on the website, show that "Bonus EP" is intended as part of
>> the title. And, as per EP Style, "EP" should remain as part of the
>> ReleaseTitle.
>>
>> uraani believes that "Bonus EP" is something other than a title, and
>> that this should be treated as an un-named (bonus disc).
>>
>> Both of us agree that applying Disc Number Style to get (bonus disc:
>> bonus EP), while technically correct, is redundant. Though, we have
>> seperate reasons.
>>
>>
>> I'm interested in your opinions even if you're not convinced that
>> -this- realease in particular should be named "(bonus EP)". Rather,
>> I'm asking if all "Bonus EP"s, reguardless of labeling, should be
>> reduced to (bonus disc) when entered into musicbrainz. And, if so,
>> could someone edit Disc Number Style to reflect this?
>>
>>
>> There's some discussion on my edit #10367571 (also linked below),
>> though the first No didn't come until 5 hours before expiration, so
>> it's likely to be closed and Failed by the time you read this. Oh
>> well.
>>
>>
>> Thanks a lot, all,
>> ~James / blue_j
>>
>>
>> Relevant Links:
>> --------------------------
>> Sunlandic Twins discrography listing, with scan of bonus EP:
>> http://www.ofmontreal.net/discography/the-sunlandic-twins/
>> Sunlandic Twins (bonus disc) on MB:
>> http://musicbrainz.org/release/0bff2d74-c097-4b5a-8602-d216f7c01b06.html
>> My edit #10367571: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10367571
>>
>>
>> (PS: I feel like a jerk calling-out folks directly on the mailing list
>> like that. So, no offense uraani. We just have differing opinions is
>> all.) :)
>>
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+1

It just looks like a normal bonus disc to me, but my only source is
the website as I don't own the release.
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