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Re: Fedora 11 on Hercules - Correction
by Harold Grovesteen-2
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The correction is that I did not pull down the tarball, but the rather
the disk image. These are two different files.
I went back to see what was there now:
The site has two large files: a tarball and a Hercules disk image. The
tarball contains the root directory of the distribution. It is not
directly usable by Hercules. The other file: f11-s390x.img is the DASD
disk image usable by Hercules with the distribution root installed on
it. The disk image can be IPL'd; the tarball can not.
The disk image date is 16 Jun 2009 on the site. The message posted on
this list was on 19 Jun 2009. The tarball in fact has a date of 23 Jun
2009. I don't know if the tarball was updated or just created later.
Regardless, it isn't usable by Hercules anyway. The disk image appears
not to have changed since it was originally published.
Can you explain what you mean by "fails during the installation"?
Harold Grovesteen wrote:
>http://secondary.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/spins/S390/
>
>This link was posted on 19 Jun. I pulled the tarball down on either the
>19th or 20th. It could have been updated since then. There is also an
>email list I joined. Hasn't had much traffic, but at least one of the
>leads has made postings.
>
>Harold Grovesteen
>
>John Abell wrote:
>
>
>
>>What version of the Installation Files did you get? The one we have fails
>>during the installation.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>John T. Abell
>>
>>Tel: 800-295-7608 Ext: 224
>>
>>
>>President
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>>International: 1-416-593-5578 Ext: 224
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>>E-mail: john.abell@...
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>>Fax: 800-295-7609
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>>International: 1-416-593-5579
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>>From: hercules-390@... [mailto:hercules-390@...] On
>>Behalf Of Harold Grovesteen
>>Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:51 AM
>>To: hercules-390@...
>>Subject: [hercules-390] Fedora 11 on Hercules
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I just want to share with everyone my personal experience with the
>>Fedora 11 disk image. This is a winner! Particularly if you already
>>run Linux as your Hercules host. If you run Windows for your Hercules
>>host, the networking may be a bit challenging.
>>
>>One of the tools I have wanted for some time has been a gcc compiler
>>that produces mainframe object on my desktop. I was surprised to find
>>that gcc is not already pre-installed on the disk image. However, 'yum
>>install gcc' worked out the box to download it and dependencies and
>>install them. This was very slick.
>>
>>There is way too much "voodoo and black magic" in cross-compiling gcc.
>>I never got that to succeed. In the past, getting Linux installed
>>seemed to be a real hurdle. Just look at some of the posts with links
>>that explain it. Not simple. With other priorities, I never took the
>>time to get past those. If you want a modern Linux on Hercules, this is
>>absolutely the simplest path to get there.
>>
>>Fedora on the mainframe is no doubt not primarily about Hercules. They
>>obviously are targeting the corporate users of mainframes. However, by
>>including this community in the sphere of their outreach allows us to
>>benefit as well. Novell never did this. openSUSE does not include the
>>mainframe at all. The only other distribution to directly include the
>>Hercules community was Debian many years ago. Even Centos that used
>>Hercules to develop its mainframe distribution, did not provide a
>>pre-installed image that I recall.
>>
>>The folks who developed the Hercules support deserve our thanks. I hope
>>we can show it by embracing their work and providing input back to their
>>effort. It is after all about community.
>>
>>Harold Grovesteen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------
>>
>>Community email addresses:
>> Post message: hercules-390@...
>> Subscribe: hercules-390-subscribe@...
>> Unsubscribe: hercules-390-unsubscribe@...
>> List owner: hercules-390-owner@...
>>
>>Files and archives at:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-390
>>
>>Get the latest version of Hercules from:
>> http://www.hercules-390.org
>>
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>------------------------------------
>
>Community email addresses:
> Post message: hercules-390@...
> Subscribe: hercules-390-subscribe@...
> Unsubscribe: hercules-390-unsubscribe@...
> List owner: hercules-390-owner@...
>
>Files and archives at:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-390
>
>Get the latest version of Hercules from:
> http://www.hercules-390.org
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
the disk image. These are two different files.
I went back to see what was there now:
The site has two large files: a tarball and a Hercules disk image. The
tarball contains the root directory of the distribution. It is not
directly usable by Hercules. The other file: f11-s390x.img is the DASD
disk image usable by Hercules with the distribution root installed on
it. The disk image can be IPL'd; the tarball can not.
The disk image date is 16 Jun 2009 on the site. The message posted on
this list was on 19 Jun 2009. The tarball in fact has a date of 23 Jun
2009. I don't know if the tarball was updated or just created later.
Regardless, it isn't usable by Hercules anyway. The disk image appears
not to have changed since it was originally published.
Can you explain what you mean by "fails during the installation"?
Harold Grovesteen wrote:
>http://secondary.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/spins/S390/
>
>This link was posted on 19 Jun. I pulled the tarball down on either the
>19th or 20th. It could have been updated since then. There is also an
>email list I joined. Hasn't had much traffic, but at least one of the
>leads has made postings.
>
>Harold Grovesteen
>
>John Abell wrote:
>
>
>
>>What version of the Installation Files did you get? The one we have fails
>>during the installation.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>John T. Abell
>>
>>Tel: 800-295-7608 Ext: 224
>>
>>
>>President
>>
>>International: 1-416-593-5578 Ext: 224
>>
>>
>>E-mail: john.abell@...
>>
>>Fax: 800-295-7609
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>International: 1-416-593-5579
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>International Software Products
>>
>><http://www.ispinfo.com> www.ispinfo.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use
>>of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or
>>disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended
>>
>>recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient),
>>please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this
>>message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception,
>>
>>tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive
>>emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption,
>>interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>>From: hercules-390@... [mailto:hercules-390@...] On
>>Behalf Of Harold Grovesteen
>>Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:51 AM
>>To: hercules-390@...
>>Subject: [hercules-390] Fedora 11 on Hercules
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I just want to share with everyone my personal experience with the
>>Fedora 11 disk image. This is a winner! Particularly if you already
>>run Linux as your Hercules host. If you run Windows for your Hercules
>>host, the networking may be a bit challenging.
>>
>>One of the tools I have wanted for some time has been a gcc compiler
>>that produces mainframe object on my desktop. I was surprised to find
>>that gcc is not already pre-installed on the disk image. However, 'yum
>>install gcc' worked out the box to download it and dependencies and
>>install them. This was very slick.
>>
>>There is way too much "voodoo and black magic" in cross-compiling gcc.
>>I never got that to succeed. In the past, getting Linux installed
>>seemed to be a real hurdle. Just look at some of the posts with links
>>that explain it. Not simple. With other priorities, I never took the
>>time to get past those. If you want a modern Linux on Hercules, this is
>>absolutely the simplest path to get there.
>>
>>Fedora on the mainframe is no doubt not primarily about Hercules. They
>>obviously are targeting the corporate users of mainframes. However, by
>>including this community in the sphere of their outreach allows us to
>>benefit as well. Novell never did this. openSUSE does not include the
>>mainframe at all. The only other distribution to directly include the
>>Hercules community was Debian many years ago. Even Centos that used
>>Hercules to develop its mainframe distribution, did not provide a
>>pre-installed image that I recall.
>>
>>The folks who developed the Hercules support deserve our thanks. I hope
>>we can show it by embracing their work and providing input back to their
>>effort. It is after all about community.
>>
>>Harold Grovesteen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------
>>
>>Community email addresses:
>> Post message: hercules-390@...
>> Subscribe: hercules-390-subscribe@...
>> Unsubscribe: hercules-390-unsubscribe@...
>> List owner: hercules-390-owner@...
>>
>>Files and archives at:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-390
>>
>>Get the latest version of Hercules from:
>> http://www.hercules-390.org
>>
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Community email addresses:
> Post message: hercules-390@...
> Subscribe: hercules-390-subscribe@...
> Unsubscribe: hercules-390-unsubscribe@...
> List owner: hercules-390-owner@...
>
>Files and archives at:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-390
>
>Get the latest version of Hercules from:
> http://www.hercules-390.org
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
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