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Re: Re: GNUmed_ISO_13485On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 05:40:24PM -0700, Jim Busser wrote:
> >>While I believe > >> > >>- quality control (and certification) per se is good > >>- quality control is useful for FLOSS apps just as well > >>- quality control can help ease relations with other vendors > >> > >>I don't think it can be in the scope of the current GNUmed > >>*project*. No problem, though, with someone or some > >>company/interest group maintaining such documentation in the > >>GNUmed ecosystem. > > > >There remains value at least defining our quality *objectives* ... > >have a look at this wiki page and tell me if you agree on these, > >also would it be suitable to add to wiki sidebar shortcuts as > >"About"? > > > > http://wiki.gnumed.de/bin/view/Gnumed/WhitePaper > > It feels to me what I managed so far is a useful excercise... > > ... see http://wiki.gnumed.de/bin/view/Gnumed/QualityManagementSystem#AnchorProcesses Not bad at all, indeed. While not something I could possibly try to adhere to today or tomorrow it is certainly useful to have around as a starting point for efforts in that direction ! Karsten -- GPG key ID E4071346 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net E167 67FD A291 2BEA 73BD 4537 78B9 A9F9 E407 1346 _______________________________________________ Gnumed-devel mailing list Gnumed-devel@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumed-devel |
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Re: Re: GNUmed_ISO_13485On 2009-10-28, at 7:08 AM, Karsten Hilbert wrote: It feels to me what I managed so far is a useful excercise...... see http://wiki.gnumed.de/bin/view/Gnumed/QualityManagementSystem#AnchorProcesses IMO we are already adhering to it as best we can... all I did is to describe how we already currently do things (just not as quickly or perfectly reliably as might be nice to manage) _______________________________________________ Gnumed-devel mailing list Gnumed-devel@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumed-devel |
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Re: Re: GNUmed_ISO_13485On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 07:53:14AM -0700, Jim Busser wrote:
> >>It feels to me what I managed so far is a useful excercise... > >> > >>... see http://wiki.gnumed.de/bin/view/Gnumed/QualityManagementSystem#AnchorProcesses > > > >Not bad at all, indeed. While not something I could possibly > >try to adhere to today or tomorrow it is certainly useful to > >have around as a starting point for efforts in that direction ! > > IMO we are already adhering to it as best we can... :-) I guess you are right in that FLOSS projects are often inherently interested in QC. With regard to that witness ReleaseManagement in the Wiki ;) > all I did is to describe how we already currently do things Thanks. That'll lend credibility to the project. I am making good progress on the medication handling BTW. Karsten -- GPG key ID E4071346 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net E167 67FD A291 2BEA 73BD 4537 78B9 A9F9 E407 1346 _______________________________________________ Gnumed-devel mailing list Gnumed-devel@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumed-devel |
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Re: Re: GNUmed_ISO_13485Applications to get patient management software certified as meeting a quality standard seem to need a company name and address.
What I wrote on the wiki in terms of Planning, Operation and Control is: Preamble: While an occasional Free / Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS) project is commercially-owned, the present one is owned by its historical contributors under a relationship that is inconstant over time. Traditional business constructs including corporate entity, executive branches, departments, human resource managers, job descriptions, employer-employee relationships and reporting relationships are impractical and inapplicable. Moreover no contractual relationship exists either among the project owners or between the project owners and those who would use the software. Practically-speaking though, it may be inescapable to need to offer some identifying information on the application form. For "Company name" I was thinking to put (voluntary project organization) GNUmed.org For "Address", the web site gnumed.org *currently* lists Sebastian Hilbert but alternatively the software itself resides at Savannah and is therefore the geographic place from which the business of managing and obtaining the software is being done so I *could* put the WHOIS which offers a Free Software Foundation address, however I should not do so without first talking to them about it. Shall I ask the FSF for their suggestions as to how I would get this handled? I understand that they might offer some general guidance given they have developed an expertise in avoiding and managing legal problems. _______________________________________________ Gnumed-devel mailing list Gnumed-devel@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumed-devel |
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Re: Re: GNUmed_ISO_13485On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 09:43:36AM -0700, Jim Busser wrote:
> Applications to get patient management software certified as meeting > a quality standard seem to need a company name and address. That is why I stipulated that such matters best be handled by some company/entity outside the/a project proper. I do think this (plus support) is one of the best business models around GNUmed/such projects. > What I wrote on the wiki in terms of Planning, Operation and > Control is: > > Preamble: While an occasional Free / Libre and Open Source Software > (FLOSS) project is commercially-owned, the present one is owned by > its historical contributors under a relationship that is inconstant > over time. Traditional business constructs including corporate > entity, executive branches, departments, human resource managers, > job descriptions, employer-employee relationships and reporting > relationships are impractical and inapplicable. Moreover no > contractual relationship exists either among the project owners or > between the project owners and those who would use the software. That is an excellent summary IMO. > Practically-speaking though, it may be inescapable to need to offer > some identifying information on the application form. > > For "Company name" I was thinking to put > > (voluntary project organization) GNUmed.org OK. > For "Address", the web site gnumed.org *currently* lists > > Sebastian Hilbert > Zum Kleingartenpark 33d > 04318 Leipzig > Telefon: +49 (0) 341 234 9793 > Telefax: +49 (0) 12125 11801273 > E-Mail: sebastian.hilbert@... The downside to which may be that once this goes "on record" somewhere it might eventually lead to frivolous litigious claims against said person. > but alternatively the software itself resides at Savannah and is > therefore the geographic place from which the business of managing > and obtaining the software is being done so I *could* put the WHOIS > which offers a Free Software Foundation address, however I should > not do so without first talking to them about it. I would agree talking to them to be necessary prior to listing them. OTOH I am unsure as to what legality would ensue from that. Would listing them as the company locality ultimately make them the ones being the certificate holder ?!? > Shall I ask the FSF for their suggestions as to how I would get this > handled? I understand that they might offer some general guidance > given they have developed an expertise in avoiding and managing > legal problems. They probably do have some advice. Karsten -- GPG key ID E4071346 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net E167 67FD A291 2BEA 73BD 4537 78B9 A9F9 E407 1346 _______________________________________________ Gnumed-devel mailing list Gnumed-devel@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumed-devel |
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