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Re: How can we add Thai as an official localized build
by Samphan Raruenrom-2
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Samphan Raruenrom wrote:
> Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: > > Samphan Raruenrom wrote: > >> It is based on Mozilla Firefox 1.5, includes Thai translation, > >> modification of preferences for Thai, Thai search plug-in and > >> my patch to add Thai line-breaking using ICU. > > Maybe we should try to resurrect the interest for that problem, Thai > > line-breaking, in the i18n group. > OK. > > When you say your patch, do you mean the latest patch in bug 7969 ? > Mine is the ICU patch, not the libthai patch. > > While we wait for a better solution in order to be able integrate thai > > line breaking inside moz without too much overhead for the people who > > don't need it, the dynamic loading of libthai option seems adequate, but > > there should be a better way than what is done in that patch. > > NSPR dynamic library loading is one possible direction : > > http://www.mozilla.org/projects/nspr/reference/html/prlink.html > Interesting. Maybe a simple rewrite using the API will do. > Libthai is available on Linux, maybe I should use Win32 API for > line breaking on Windows? (which require #ifdef :-( ) Such as ScriptBreak in Uniscribe. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/intl/uniscrib_1dm3.asp -- _/|\_ Samphan Raruenrom. http://www.osdev.co.th/ _______________________________________________ dev-i18n mailing list dev-i18n@... https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-i18n |
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Re: How can we add Thai as an official localized build
by Ott Pattara Kiatisevi
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Samphan Raruenrom wrote:
> Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: > > Samphan Raruenrom wrote: > >> It is based on Mozilla Firefox 1.5, includes Thai translation, > >> modification of preferences for Thai, Thai search plug-in and > >> my patch to add Thai line-breaking using ICU. > > Maybe we should try to resurrect the interest for that problem, Thai > > line-breaking, in the i18n group. > > OK. > > > When you say your patch, do you mean the latest patch in bug 7969 ? > > Mine is the ICU patch, not the libthai patch. I wrote that libthai patch. But it is actually the ICU patch by Samphan plus a few small modifications to use libthai instead of ICU and bug fixes and optmizations from Vuthichai's cttex patch. > > > While we wait for a better solution in order to be able integrate thai > > line breaking inside moz without too much overhead for the people who > > don't need it, the dynamic loading of libthai option seems adequate, > but > > there should be a better way than what is done in that patch. > > NSPR dynamic library loading is one possible direction : > > http://www.mozilla.org/projects/nspr/reference/html/prlink.html OK. I will have a look on this and try to come up with an updated patch. > > Interesting. Maybe a simple rewrite using the API will do. > Libthai is available on Linux, maybe I should use Win32 API for > line breaking on Windows? (which require #ifdef :-( ) > Sounds great to me. P'Samphan would you help on this part? :D Cheers, Pattara _______________________________________________ dev-i18n mailing list dev-i18n@... https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-i18n |
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Re: How can we add Thai as an official localized build
by Jean-Marc Desperrier
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Samphan Raruenrom wrote:
> Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: > > Samphan Raruenrom wrote: > >> It is based on Mozilla Firefox 1.5, includes Thai translation, > >> modification of preferences for Thai, Thai search plug-in and > >> my patch to add Thai line-breaking using ICU. > > Maybe we should try to resurrect the interest for that problem, Thai > > line-breaking, in the i18n group. > > OK. I realized something recently. Cairo/Thebes based Firefox 3.0 will use Uniscribe (pango/gtk2 on linux). That should means it will gain thai word breaking at the same time. Maybe you should try one of the test cairo build to see what it gives ? http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/experimental/cairo/latest-trunk/ Check what's in store here : http://wiki.mozilla.org/FutureGfxWhiteboard _______________________________________________ dev-i18n mailing list dev-i18n@... https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-i18n |
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Re: How can we add Thai as an official localized build
by Ott Pattara Kiatisevi
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Hello,
Samphan Raruenrom wrote: > Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: > > Samphan Raruenrom wrote: > >> It is based on Mozilla Firefox 1.5, includes Thai translation, > >> modification of preferences for Thai, Thai search plug-in and > >> my patch to add Thai line-breaking using ICU. > > Maybe we should try to resurrect the interest for that problem, Thai > > line-breaking, in the i18n group. > > OK. > > > When you say your patch, do you mean the latest patch in bug 7969 ? > > Mine is the ICU patch, not the libthai patch. > > > While we wait for a better solution in order to be able integrate thai > > line breaking inside moz without too much overhead for the people who > > don't need it, the dynamic loading of libthai option seems adequate, > but > > there should be a better way than what is done in that patch. > > NSPR dynamic library loading is one possible direction : > > http://www.mozilla.org/projects/nspr/reference/html/prlink.html I have updated the patch to use NSPR (PR_LoadLibrary and stuff) instead of dlopen(). Please have a look: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7969 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=211242&action=view Cheers, Ott Pattara > > Interesting. Maybe a simple rewrite using the API will do. > Libthai is available on Linux, maybe I should use Win32 API for > line breaking on Windows? (which require #ifdef :-( ) > _______________________________________________ dev-i18n mailing list dev-i18n@... https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-i18n |
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Re: How can we add Thai as an official localized build
by Ott Pattara Kiatisevi
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Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote:
> Samphan Raruenrom wrote: > >> Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: >> > Samphan Raruenrom wrote: >> >> It is based on Mozilla Firefox 1.5, includes Thai translation, >> >> modification of preferences for Thai, Thai search plug-in and >> >> my patch to add Thai line-breaking using ICU. >> > Maybe we should try to resurrect the interest for that problem, Thai >> > line-breaking, in the i18n group. >> >> OK. > > > I realized something recently. Cairo/Thebes based Firefox 3.0 will use > Uniscribe (pango/gtk2 on linux). That should means it will gain thai > word breaking at the same time. > Maybe you should try one of the test cairo build to see what it gives ? > http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/experimental/cairo/latest-trunk/ > I've tried the firefox-1.6a1.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 one without success. I don't see all buttons, menus and URL location bar. http://linux.thai.net/~ott/tmp/cairo-firefox.png Debian unstable with following packages: ii libpango1.0-0 1.8.1-1 ii pango-libthai 0.1.4-1 ii libcairo2 1.0.2-3 Cheers, Ott > > Check what's in store here : > http://wiki.mozilla.org/FutureGfxWhiteboard > _______________________________________________ > dev-i18n mailing list > dev-i18n@... > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-i18n > > _______________________________________________ dev-i18n mailing list dev-i18n@... https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-i18n |
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Re: How can we add Thai as an official localized build
by Samphan Raruenrom-2
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Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote:
> I realized something recently. Cairo/Thebes based Firefox 3.0 will use > Uniscribe (pango/gtk2 on linux). That should means it will gain thai > word breaking at the same time. > Maybe you should try one of the test cairo build to see what it gives ? > http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/experimental/cairo/latest-trunk/ > Check what's in store here : > http://wiki.mozilla.org/FutureGfxWhiteboard I can't run the binary there. But I've tried firefox-1.6a1.en-US.rtl-v4.12.win32.installer.exe at http://blacksapphire.com/firefox-rtl/ . It still doesn't break lines correctly for Thai. Maybe this is not in their specification. -- _/|\_ Samphan Raruenrom. http://www.osdev.co.th/ _______________________________________________ dev-i18n mailing list dev-i18n@... https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-i18n |
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Re: How can we add Thai as an official localized build
by Jean-Marc Desperrier
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Samphan Raruenrom wrote:
> Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: >> I realized something recently. Cairo/Thebes based Firefox 3.0 will use >> Uniscribe (pango/gtk2 on linux). That should means it will gain thai >> word breaking at the same time. >> Maybe you should try one of the test cairo build to see what it gives ? >> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/experimental/cairo/latest-trunk/ >> Check what's in store here : >> http://wiki.mozilla.org/FutureGfxWhiteboard > > I can't run the binary there. Interesting. Well I linked to the 'latest trunk' version so it might be broken from time to time. But still I'm sure the cairo team would be interested in such report. > But I've tried > firefox-1.6a1.en-US.rtl-v4.12.win32.installer.exe > at http://blacksapphire.com/firefox-rtl/ . If you read carefully the page, you will see that this version is based on the standard graphic engine, not Thebes. One big hint is that the author talks about running it in win98. There's no Thebes for win9x. The Thebes effort of the author seems to be only available in the form of the patch inside http://blacksapphire.com/firefox-rtl/thebes/, not as downloadable binaries. > It still doesn't break lines correctly for Thai. Maybe this is not in > their specification. It seems from the page firefox-1.6a1.en-US.rtl-v4.12 should do Thai. I think you should ask the author about that problem. I'm cross-posting this message to the mozilla.dev.tech.gfx groups where Thebes discussing should happens. Follow-up only about Thebes or about i18n problems not in Thebes should restricted to only one of the two groups. _______________________________________________ dev-i18n mailing list dev-i18n@... https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-i18n |
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Re: How can we add Thai as an official localized build
by Ott Pattara Kiatisevi
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Samphan Raruenrom wrote:
> Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: > > Samphan Raruenrom wrote: > >> It is based on Mozilla Firefox 1.5, includes Thai translation, > >> modification of preferences for Thai, Thai search plug-in and > >> my patch to add Thai line-breaking using ICU. > > Maybe we should try to resurrect the interest for that problem, Thai > > line-breaking, in the i18n group. > > OK. > > > When you say your patch, do you mean the latest patch in bug 7969 ? > > Mine is the ICU patch, not the libthai patch. > > > While we wait for a better solution in order to be able integrate thai > > line breaking inside moz without too much overhead for the people who > > don't need it, the dynamic loading of libthai option seems adequate, > but > > there should be a better way than what is done in that patch. > > NSPR dynamic library loading is one possible direction : > > http://www.mozilla.org/projects/nspr/reference/html/prlink.html > > Interesting. Maybe a simple rewrite using the API will do. While we are waiting for the Cairo/Thebe/Pango solution, I have updated the patch to use NSPR (PR_LoadLibrary and stuff) instead of dlopen(). Please comment: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7969 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=211242&action=view Cheers, Ott ps1: I tried firefox-1.6a1.en-US.rtl-v4.12 already, word breaking is not working. ps2: I tried the firefox-1.6a1.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 one without success. I don't see all buttons, menus and URL location bar. http://linux.thai.net/~ott/tmp/cairo-firefox.png Debian unstable with following packages: ii libpango1.0-0 1.8.1-1 ii pango-libthai 0.1.4-1 ii libcairo2 1.0.2-3 Not sure if I miss anything... _______________________________________________ dev-i18n mailing list dev-i18n@... https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-i18n |
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