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Re: How to recognize homebrew discids
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Why not try to make it part of the discid submission process. If the
user is trying to associate a discid with a release that already has
one (or more) check if the length of the disc differs by more than ±5s
or something. If it does make the user confirm that they are adding a
discid from an official disc. It's not perfect, but at least it would
stop some people from submitting their burned CDs.
2009/3/30 Atedos <atedos@...>:
> If it gets removed?
> The submitter can't make difference between CD-r and album disc? If it gets
> removed, just a word (proof is better though) it was legal is in most cases
> enough.
> That's why we are here, aren't we? Help each other, check edits and correct
> if needed.
> Not just submit and forget.
>
> 2009/3/30 Frederic Da Vitoria <davitofrg@...>
>>
>> Your suggestion does not seem very reasonable to me. How can you expect
>> someone who doesn't really care about technical details, who even does not
>> know what is a homebrew, to recognize that the perfectly legal and brand new
>> release he is submitting may look strange to some users? IMO if you want to
>> enforce such a position, then you should request that Picard should be
>> modified in order to recognize a homebrew and warn the submitter that there
>> might be an issue.
>>
>> 2009/3/30 Atedos <atedos@...>
>>>
>>> Can we just don't start it?
>>> I'd keep DB clean, rather than keep all those homebrew DiscID's.
>>> It is in the hands of submitter, to put a note to DiscID addition, if it
>>> is legal for example and looks like homebrew.
>>> It also causes confusion, if that CD-r was burned from badly ripped mp3s
>>> or something, making different times on same tracks.
>>> It also can make bogus CD release for Digital Media only, if burnt, and
>>> so on.
>>> I personally prefer remove such ID's, with later re-submitting if needed
>>> (with notes added). If the first submitter cares, he will notice such edit
>>> pending. If he doesn't - why should we rely on it?
>>>
>>> 2009/3/30 Philipp Wolfer <ph.wolfer@...>
>>>>
>>>> And while ripping a bunch of older CDs I noticed two more which suddenly
>>>> had missing disc IDs even though I'm pretty sure the disc IDs had been on MB
>>>> once. I really don't see the point in removing disc IDs unless they were
>>>> clearly attached to the wrong release or have track lengths that are far off
>>>> from the real lengths.
>>>>
>>>> Can we please stop this nonsense!?
>>
>> --
>> Frederic Da Vitoria
>> (davitof)
>>
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user is trying to associate a discid with a release that already has
one (or more) check if the length of the disc differs by more than ±5s
or something. If it does make the user confirm that they are adding a
discid from an official disc. It's not perfect, but at least it would
stop some people from submitting their burned CDs.
2009/3/30 Atedos <atedos@...>:
> If it gets removed?
> The submitter can't make difference between CD-r and album disc? If it gets
> removed, just a word (proof is better though) it was legal is in most cases
> enough.
> That's why we are here, aren't we? Help each other, check edits and correct
> if needed.
> Not just submit and forget.
>
> 2009/3/30 Frederic Da Vitoria <davitofrg@...>
>>
>> Your suggestion does not seem very reasonable to me. How can you expect
>> someone who doesn't really care about technical details, who even does not
>> know what is a homebrew, to recognize that the perfectly legal and brand new
>> release he is submitting may look strange to some users? IMO if you want to
>> enforce such a position, then you should request that Picard should be
>> modified in order to recognize a homebrew and warn the submitter that there
>> might be an issue.
>>
>> 2009/3/30 Atedos <atedos@...>
>>>
>>> Can we just don't start it?
>>> I'd keep DB clean, rather than keep all those homebrew DiscID's.
>>> It is in the hands of submitter, to put a note to DiscID addition, if it
>>> is legal for example and looks like homebrew.
>>> It also causes confusion, if that CD-r was burned from badly ripped mp3s
>>> or something, making different times on same tracks.
>>> It also can make bogus CD release for Digital Media only, if burnt, and
>>> so on.
>>> I personally prefer remove such ID's, with later re-submitting if needed
>>> (with notes added). If the first submitter cares, he will notice such edit
>>> pending. If he doesn't - why should we rely on it?
>>>
>>> 2009/3/30 Philipp Wolfer <ph.wolfer@...>
>>>>
>>>> And while ripping a bunch of older CDs I noticed two more which suddenly
>>>> had missing disc IDs even though I'm pretty sure the disc IDs had been on MB
>>>> once. I really don't see the point in removing disc IDs unless they were
>>>> clearly attached to the wrong release or have track lengths that are far off
>>>> from the real lengths.
>>>>
>>>> Can we please stop this nonsense!?
>>
>> --
>> Frederic Da Vitoria
>> (davitof)
>>
>> Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » -
>> http://www.april.org
>>
>>
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