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Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
by igor.vaynberg
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lets say the entire backend of amazon is written in wicket. would you
consider that to be a large application? how would you ever know that
it was written in wicket? people who work on projects like these do
not often go, or most times are not even allowed, to boast on some
public mailing list.
wicket is best suited for very complex uis, and such uis are not often
suited for public websites - whose mission is to make the experience
as simple as possible for the user. not saying that it cannot be done.
i think if this is some sort of a "criteria" for choosing a framework
you should probably go with servlets. there are some very very large
sites out there written in pure jsp and servlets. good luck.
-igor
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:57 AM, David Chang<david_q_zhang@...> wrote:
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>
> Jeremy, thanks for your input. I don't quite understand the side note in your reply. For a large website such as Amazon to work, there should absolutely be different technologies/tiers, tuning, security, and other considerations. The basic question is whether a framework is up to that task and whether there is evidence in reality.
>
> Still back to my original question, any there any large Wicket website out there? Wicket people have to face it, me too, if I am going to use it.
>
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> --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@...> wrote:
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>> From: Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@...>
>> Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
>> To: users@...
>> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 4:08 PM
>> There are some large ones that have
>> been mentioned on the mailing
>> lists in the past - you can try searching Nabble - they may
>> not be on
>> that page.
>>
>> As a side note, I find it funny how everyone always
>> compares their
>> anticipated traffic with Amazon or eBay. I worked at
>> eBay for quite
>> some time, and I know that you are not going to run either
>> of those
>> sites with any framework straight out of the box. I'm
>> not saying
>> Wicket can't scale to that size, I'm saying that no
>> framework defaults
>> to being made for that size. Could eBay or Amazon use
>> Wicket? Sure,
>> with the right techniques. Could your website use
>> it? Yes, and
>> probably much easier. :)
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Thomerson
>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Chang<david_q_zhang@...>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Martin, I looked at the list and it seems none of them
>> meets what I said about large rich ui Wicket website. Likely
>> I am ignorant. Please enlighten me. By large, I mean
>> something similar or close to amazon.com or ebay.com that
>> have a large number of concurrent users. Which Wicket
>> website in your knowledge seems to the largest one?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Martin Funk <mafulafunk@...>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Martin Funk <mafulafunk@...>
>> >> Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket
>> websites?
>> >> To: users@...
>> >> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 3:21 PM
>> >>
>> >> Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David Chang:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I am still learning Wicket. The more I read
>> from
>> >> <<Wicket in Action>>, the more I like
>> it.
>> >> >
>> >> > From the book, I know that companies from
>> startups to
>> >> large-size ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use
>> Wicket for
>> >> their projects, but I cannot find a list of
>> specific larget
>> >> internet rich UI websites coded with Wicket. Could
>> someone
>> >> help?
>> >> >
>> >> > The backgound for this request is that we may
>> use
>> >> Wicket for a large highly-active website.
>> >> maybe this helps:
>> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html
>> >> mf
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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consider that to be a large application? how would you ever know that
it was written in wicket? people who work on projects like these do
not often go, or most times are not even allowed, to boast on some
public mailing list.
wicket is best suited for very complex uis, and such uis are not often
suited for public websites - whose mission is to make the experience
as simple as possible for the user. not saying that it cannot be done.
i think if this is some sort of a "criteria" for choosing a framework
you should probably go with servlets. there are some very very large
sites out there written in pure jsp and servlets. good luck.
-igor
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:57 AM, David Chang<david_q_zhang@...> wrote:
>
>
> Jeremy, thanks for your input. I don't quite understand the side note in your reply. For a large website such as Amazon to work, there should absolutely be different technologies/tiers, tuning, security, and other considerations. The basic question is whether a framework is up to that task and whether there is evidence in reality.
>
> Still back to my original question, any there any large Wicket website out there? Wicket people have to face it, me too, if I am going to use it.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@...> wrote:
>
>> From: Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@...>
>> Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket websites?
>> To: users@...
>> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 4:08 PM
>> There are some large ones that have
>> been mentioned on the mailing
>> lists in the past - you can try searching Nabble - they may
>> not be on
>> that page.
>>
>> As a side note, I find it funny how everyone always
>> compares their
>> anticipated traffic with Amazon or eBay. I worked at
>> eBay for quite
>> some time, and I know that you are not going to run either
>> of those
>> sites with any framework straight out of the box. I'm
>> not saying
>> Wicket can't scale to that size, I'm saying that no
>> framework defaults
>> to being made for that size. Could eBay or Amazon use
>> Wicket? Sure,
>> with the right techniques. Could your website use
>> it? Yes, and
>> probably much easier. :)
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Thomerson
>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Chang<david_q_zhang@...>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Martin, I looked at the list and it seems none of them
>> meets what I said about large rich ui Wicket website. Likely
>> I am ignorant. Please enlighten me. By large, I mean
>> something similar or close to amazon.com or ebay.com that
>> have a large number of concurrent users. Which Wicket
>> website in your knowledge seems to the largest one?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Martin Funk <mafulafunk@...>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Martin Funk <mafulafunk@...>
>> >> Subject: Re: Large internet rich UI Wicket
>> websites?
>> >> To: users@...
>> >> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 3:21 PM
>> >>
>> >> Am 01.07.2009 um 20:11 schrieb David Chang:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I am still learning Wicket. The more I read
>> from
>> >> <<Wicket in Action>>, the more I like
>> it.
>> >> >
>> >> > From the book, I know that companies from
>> startups to
>> >> large-size ones such as IBM, Amazon, etc. use
>> Wicket for
>> >> their projects, but I cannot find a list of
>> specific larget
>> >> internet rich UI websites coded with Wicket. Could
>> someone
>> >> help?
>> >> >
>> >> > The backgound for this request is that we may
>> use
>> >> Wicket for a large highly-active website.
>> >> maybe this helps:
>> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/sites-using-wicket.html
>> >> mf
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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