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by Teemu Nätkinniemi
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On 12.9.2011 18:40, Charles Wilson wrote:
> On 9/12/2011 10:29 AM, Teemu Nätkinniemi wrote:
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>> Everything seems to be working without crashing. I am trying to compile
>> GCC 4.3.4 natively just to see if it can be done. One problem: at the
>> moment MSYS2 is as slow as Cygwin is which in my mind makes it unusable.
>
> Guys, TANSTAAFL. You can't get something for nothing: cygwin-1.7 (and
> 1.5, before it) adds a LOT more posix compatibility functionality and
> new features -- like unicode support -- than older versions. MSYS-1.0
> is only SLIGHTLY faster than cygwin *of its day* -- e.g. 1.3.4 -- and
> that is only because msys skipped a lot of the permission checking and
> user/access emulation stuff that cygwin did.
>
> Cygwin has become more processor hungry to support the new features. The
> same will be true of msys-2: it will be only slightly faster than the
> cygwin it is based on, and only if you short-circuit a lot of the
> permission/access handling.
This has been the exact reason I've started patching MSYS from the
beginning and the ultimate goal being getting better support for
threading and unicode. I still like the idea of MSYS2 if only to get to
know Cygwin better and to see if there is any way to speed up MSYS2 when
compared to Cygwin.
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> On 9/12/2011 10:29 AM, Teemu Nätkinniemi wrote:
>
>> Everything seems to be working without crashing. I am trying to compile
>> GCC 4.3.4 natively just to see if it can be done. One problem: at the
>> moment MSYS2 is as slow as Cygwin is which in my mind makes it unusable.
>
> Guys, TANSTAAFL. You can't get something for nothing: cygwin-1.7 (and
> 1.5, before it) adds a LOT more posix compatibility functionality and
> new features -- like unicode support -- than older versions. MSYS-1.0
> is only SLIGHTLY faster than cygwin *of its day* -- e.g. 1.3.4 -- and
> that is only because msys skipped a lot of the permission checking and
> user/access emulation stuff that cygwin did.
>
> Cygwin has become more processor hungry to support the new features. The
> same will be true of msys-2: it will be only slightly faster than the
> cygwin it is based on, and only if you short-circuit a lot of the
> permission/access handling.
This has been the exact reason I've started patching MSYS from the
beginning and the ultimate goal being getting better support for
threading and unicode. I still like the idea of MSYS2 if only to get to
know Cygwin better and to see if there is any way to speed up MSYS2 when
compared to Cygwin.
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What are the key obstacles that have prevented many mid-market businesses
from deploying virtual desktops? How do next-generation virtual desktops
provide companies an easier-to-deploy, easier-to-manage and more affordable
virtual desktop model.http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426474/
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