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I am new to Rails so I am not fast at anything. So I don't know when NB is slowing me down or my lack of experience.
I am on Windows XP so textmate is not an option and e-editor is really weak in my opion.
So I have been trying to work with NB.
I too have big problems with indexing. I had not considered this to be a Rails 2.0 vs Rails 1.2.3 problem. It could be and something the NB teams should look at.
One thing to observe is the two guys doing the NB work are NOT Ruby or Rails guys. So they do not think like highly productive RoR developers. They are ( I'm Sure ) excellent Java guys. I am sure they are learning Ruby and Rails as they go, but when I watch some guys on Textmate it is truly amazing the speed at which they can crank out code. I think NB will have to approach the speed of Textmate to become widely accepted.
One thing I cannot get is when look ahead works and when the textmate bundle type of shortcuts works. I would really like to get a list of the textmate bundle type of short cuts so I can see them and learn where to use them.
I have talked with Gregg Spoar and I KNOW he is committed to this project.
Thanks for starting this and I hope that we can find a path to making NB work. I think it is a GREAT IDE with the integrated debugging and features that will draw more developers into the RoR movement.
...bartee...
I am on Windows XP so textmate is not an option and e-editor is really weak in my opion.
So I have been trying to work with NB.
I too have big problems with indexing. I had not considered this to be a Rails 2.0 vs Rails 1.2.3 problem. It could be and something the NB teams should look at.
One thing to observe is the two guys doing the NB work are NOT Ruby or Rails guys. So they do not think like highly productive RoR developers. They are ( I'm Sure ) excellent Java guys. I am sure they are learning Ruby and Rails as they go, but when I watch some guys on Textmate it is truly amazing the speed at which they can crank out code. I think NB will have to approach the speed of Textmate to become widely accepted.
One thing I cannot get is when look ahead works and when the textmate bundle type of shortcuts works. I would really like to get a list of the textmate bundle type of short cuts so I can see them and learn where to use them.
I have talked with Gregg Spoar and I KNOW he is committed to this project.
Thanks for starting this and I hope that we can find a path to making NB work. I think it is a GREAT IDE with the integrated debugging and features that will draw more developers into the RoR movement.
...bartee...
On Jan 22, 2008 8:40 AM, bruparel <ruparel@...> wrote:
All,
Just wanted to run my observations by you.
I have tried over the week-end to make NetBeans 6.0, 6.0.1, and 6.1 (dev
200801201200) work with Rails 2.0 and have reached the conclusion that it is
too painful and clumsy. NetBeans 6.0 and 6.0.1 are simply not Rails 2.0
aware, understandably so. Whereas the 6.1 build mentioned above is too
unpredictable. For example, it spends an enormous amount of time trying to
index the Depot application that I have already closed. Even if it is open,
NetBeans 6.0 does it at the speed of light compared to the dev build of 6.1
For time being, until 6.1 stabilizes a bit, I will stay away from trying to
work with NetBeans and Rails 2.0. I must point out that the Tutorial Diva
article about working with NetBeans 6.0 and Rails 2.0.2 to create a blog did
work, but feels quite clumsy though. The command line feels better.
NetBeans 6.0 with Rails 1.2.3 which I have with InstantRails 1.7 works quite
well and feel good too.
I would like to see how others "feel" about this? Mind you, it is not a
cut-and-dry discussion and different people have different opinions. The
reason for this post is not to start something, but more like to get a
response from people who know something I don't and can tell me that I am
wrong and here is how it will work well.
Regards,
Bharat
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