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Bibek Paudel <eternalyouth@...> writes:
> Wow, Thanks to all of your help, my conkeror experience is a lot better now
> !
> On 2009/7/9 Axel Beckert <abe@...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I just skip the questions I can't answer...
> Your answers were very helpful. I can now save, bookmark or look at the
> links and pictures. But I still haven't figured out how to emulate the right
> click functionality. Maybe, I need to see more into the docs (and I am doing
> that), but if anybody knows how do I inspect some element, for example (an
> functionality achieved by right-click in firefox), it would be great. As an
> example, you can see the dimensions of an image this way in firefox, is
> there someway i can do something similar in conkeror?
This feature does not exist in Conkeror. (Except by using the DOM
inspector interface in Conkeror, which though it would give you image
size, is surely not what you were looking for.) An analogue in Conkeror
for inspecting some element would likely make use of the browser
object/hints systems. This would require some programming, though.
>> I don't know the answer (I'm an Emacs guy, got Emacs Lisp already in
>> the baby bottle ;-), but that's definite FAQ and should be added to
>> the wiki as soon as there's an answer. Got that question, too, on
>> #grml after the inclusion of Conkeror in GRML.
> I didn't exactly get this. Can conkeror be extended by programming in Emacs
> Lisp ?
No, for Conkeror, the language JavaScript plays the role that Emacs Lisp
plays for Emacs. However, JavaScript is not such a bad language.
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM, 'Mash <mashdot@...> wrote:
>> A quick answer...
>> The best bet would be to get the latest via git
> http://conkeror.org/InstallationUnix
> Thanks, I did indeed (re)install it from there. For some reason, the
> conkeror I had installed from my package manager (in Debian Lenny) wasn't
> accepting the configuration in my .conkerorrc. The new one is perfectly
> working the way it should have been.
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:09 PM, John J. Foerch <jjfoerch@...>wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 01:21:47PM -0400, John J. Foerch wrote:
>> > > open link in new buffer with F instead of C-u f
>> >
>> > define_key(default_global_keymap, "F", "follow-new-buffer");
>>
> Thanks for the tips. I understand that conkeror could be made to behave like
> vimperator by changing keybindings. What I actually wanted to know is if it
> is possible to make conkeror "completely" behave like Vimperator "only" by
> changing the keybindings or does one need to do more than that (for example,
> some deeper hacking)?
Changing key bindings will likely get you much of the way to vimperator,
but it will indeed not get you an exact clone of vimperator. For one
thing, not all UI decisions are represented as key binding choices, and
for another, there are some features in vimperator not supported in
Conkeror (though also some things in Conkeror not supported in
Vimperator).
I would think that changing the key bindings would be mostly sufficient,
though.
> Btw, your dumpln trick is great. Thanks. The newer conkeror (from the
> snapshot) works so neat.
> Btw, I wanted to ask a few more things too. Hope nobody minds :)
> 1. The main reason I tried Conkeror is the configuration of machine I use.
> It's an old box with memory and CPU freq a lot lesser than of modern
> machines. When I use firefox with many tabs, it really slows down the
> computer and often brings it to knees. I hope conkeror is lighter in
> comparision and faster too. My experience so far suggests the same. If
> somebody knows of some benchmarks, comparision or statistics related to
> this, it would be nice to have a look.
It might be slightly faster. Unfortunately, though, the same Mozilla
code underlies both Conkeror and Firefox, and therefore the performance
and memory use are necessarily going to be very similar.
> 2. How do I emulate the "awesome bar" of firefox (ie the address bar) ? Like
> suggesting me the websites already visited or bookmarked.
This is already supported to some extent. If you want to suggest sites
from history, you can specify:
url_completion_use_bookmarks = false;
url_completion_use_history = true;
Unfortunately, bookmarks and history cannot be used at once, but
bookmarks are included in history, though the title you specify when
creating the bookmark is not used when bookmarked sites are obtained
from history.
> 3. If there's someway in which I can add the "restore tabs from last
> session" feature to conkeror, would be glad to know how.
There is now session management support in Conkeror. See
http://conkeror.org/Sessions
> 4. How/where to add bookmarklets. I had a few bookmarklets in Firefox that I
> miss now. How do I bring them back in conkeror? Is it by creating additional
> keybindinds for the code of bookmarklet (they are javacsripts) or is there
> some other way?
You can use a facility called webjumps, though it is generally better to
just define a command. See the wiki.
--
Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
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> Wow, Thanks to all of your help, my conkeror experience is a lot better now
> !
> On 2009/7/9 Axel Beckert <abe@...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I just skip the questions I can't answer...
> Your answers were very helpful. I can now save, bookmark or look at the
> links and pictures. But I still haven't figured out how to emulate the right
> click functionality. Maybe, I need to see more into the docs (and I am doing
> that), but if anybody knows how do I inspect some element, for example (an
> functionality achieved by right-click in firefox), it would be great. As an
> example, you can see the dimensions of an image this way in firefox, is
> there someway i can do something similar in conkeror?
This feature does not exist in Conkeror. (Except by using the DOM
inspector interface in Conkeror, which though it would give you image
size, is surely not what you were looking for.) An analogue in Conkeror
for inspecting some element would likely make use of the browser
object/hints systems. This would require some programming, though.
>> I don't know the answer (I'm an Emacs guy, got Emacs Lisp already in
>> the baby bottle ;-), but that's definite FAQ and should be added to
>> the wiki as soon as there's an answer. Got that question, too, on
>> #grml after the inclusion of Conkeror in GRML.
> I didn't exactly get this. Can conkeror be extended by programming in Emacs
> Lisp ?
No, for Conkeror, the language JavaScript plays the role that Emacs Lisp
plays for Emacs. However, JavaScript is not such a bad language.
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM, 'Mash <mashdot@...> wrote:
>> A quick answer...
>> The best bet would be to get the latest via git
> http://conkeror.org/InstallationUnix
> Thanks, I did indeed (re)install it from there. For some reason, the
> conkeror I had installed from my package manager (in Debian Lenny) wasn't
> accepting the configuration in my .conkerorrc. The new one is perfectly
> working the way it should have been.
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:09 PM, John J. Foerch <jjfoerch@...>wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 01:21:47PM -0400, John J. Foerch wrote:
>> > > open link in new buffer with F instead of C-u f
>> >
>> > define_key(default_global_keymap, "F", "follow-new-buffer");
>>
> Thanks for the tips. I understand that conkeror could be made to behave like
> vimperator by changing keybindings. What I actually wanted to know is if it
> is possible to make conkeror "completely" behave like Vimperator "only" by
> changing the keybindings or does one need to do more than that (for example,
> some deeper hacking)?
Changing key bindings will likely get you much of the way to vimperator,
but it will indeed not get you an exact clone of vimperator. For one
thing, not all UI decisions are represented as key binding choices, and
for another, there are some features in vimperator not supported in
Conkeror (though also some things in Conkeror not supported in
Vimperator).
I would think that changing the key bindings would be mostly sufficient,
though.
> Btw, your dumpln trick is great. Thanks. The newer conkeror (from the
> snapshot) works so neat.
> Btw, I wanted to ask a few more things too. Hope nobody minds :)
> 1. The main reason I tried Conkeror is the configuration of machine I use.
> It's an old box with memory and CPU freq a lot lesser than of modern
> machines. When I use firefox with many tabs, it really slows down the
> computer and often brings it to knees. I hope conkeror is lighter in
> comparision and faster too. My experience so far suggests the same. If
> somebody knows of some benchmarks, comparision or statistics related to
> this, it would be nice to have a look.
It might be slightly faster. Unfortunately, though, the same Mozilla
code underlies both Conkeror and Firefox, and therefore the performance
and memory use are necessarily going to be very similar.
> 2. How do I emulate the "awesome bar" of firefox (ie the address bar) ? Like
> suggesting me the websites already visited or bookmarked.
This is already supported to some extent. If you want to suggest sites
from history, you can specify:
url_completion_use_bookmarks = false;
url_completion_use_history = true;
Unfortunately, bookmarks and history cannot be used at once, but
bookmarks are included in history, though the title you specify when
creating the bookmark is not used when bookmarked sites are obtained
from history.
> 3. If there's someway in which I can add the "restore tabs from last
> session" feature to conkeror, would be glad to know how.
There is now session management support in Conkeror. See
http://conkeror.org/Sessions
> 4. How/where to add bookmarklets. I had a few bookmarklets in Firefox that I
> miss now. How do I bring them back in conkeror? Is it by creating additional
> keybindinds for the code of bookmarklet (they are javacsripts) or is there
> some other way?
You can use a facility called webjumps, though it is generally better to
just define a command. See the wiki.
--
Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
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Conkeror mailing list
Conkeror@...
https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/conkeror
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