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by RussellMc
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Originally the system was highly consistent, but nobody ever actually
spelled it out.
My summary , which worked 100%, was:
1. There is a priority order
- going straight
- turning left
- turning left.
2. Within the same priority level, give way to those on your right.
'In the rare cases where all is equal "road user courtesy applies" ' was
the official line.
The changed left turn priority restores the broken old system.
The new T intersection rule breaks it again.
1+1 sensible drivers at a T can use the old rule to advantage with the cars
passing passenger side to passenger side.
The new rule requires passing driver side to driver side and must block
passage of the car coming up the T stem.
On 24 March 2012 12:05, Chris McSweeny <cpmcsweeny@...> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM, RussellMc <apptechnz@...> wrote:
> > We are changing back to the logical rule that existed about ? 20 years
> > ago.
> > Back then they meddled with no proper reason at all and we have had this
> > aberrant and dangerous rule ever since.
> > They are now restoring the staus quo but are now meddling with another
> rule.
> >
> > International status unknown but:
> >
> > At present on an uncontrolled T intersection:
> > NZ - left side driving: A car coming up the T shaft and turning right has
> > priority over a car coming from their left and turning right across their
> > bow ino the T.
> > In right side drive countries that reads: A car coming up the T shaft
> and
> > turning left has priority over a car coming from their right and turning
> > left across their bow into the T.
> >
> > They are changing that so the "main road" car now has priority.
> >
> > If they had not done this our rules would again have been wholly
> symmetric
> > and consistent.
> > Can't have that, can we?
>
> Both these new rules appear to be giving the same priority as we have
> in the UK. I'd argue that the T junction one is also logical and
> consistent.
>
> I have to admit, when I drove in NZ I wasn't aware of the right turn
> rule which is being changed - however my first trip (of 2) was almost
> 20 years ago, so by the sounds of things it may not have existed then?
>
> Chris
>
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spelled it out.
My summary , which worked 100%, was:
1. There is a priority order
- going straight
- turning left
- turning left.
2. Within the same priority level, give way to those on your right.
'In the rare cases where all is equal "road user courtesy applies" ' was
the official line.
The changed left turn priority restores the broken old system.
The new T intersection rule breaks it again.
1+1 sensible drivers at a T can use the old rule to advantage with the cars
passing passenger side to passenger side.
The new rule requires passing driver side to driver side and must block
passage of the car coming up the T stem.
On 24 March 2012 12:05, Chris McSweeny <cpmcsweeny@...> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM, RussellMc <apptechnz@...> wrote:
> > We are changing back to the logical rule that existed about ? 20 years
> > ago.
> > Back then they meddled with no proper reason at all and we have had this
> > aberrant and dangerous rule ever since.
> > They are now restoring the staus quo but are now meddling with another
> rule.
> >
> > International status unknown but:
> >
> > At present on an uncontrolled T intersection:
> > NZ - left side driving: A car coming up the T shaft and turning right has
> > priority over a car coming from their left and turning right across their
> > bow ino the T.
> > In right side drive countries that reads: A car coming up the T shaft
> and
> > turning left has priority over a car coming from their right and turning
> > left across their bow into the T.
> >
> > They are changing that so the "main road" car now has priority.
> >
> > If they had not done this our rules would again have been wholly
> symmetric
> > and consistent.
> > Can't have that, can we?
>
> Both these new rules appear to be giving the same priority as we have
> in the UK. I'd argue that the T junction one is also logical and
> consistent.
>
> I have to admit, when I drove in NZ I wasn't aware of the right turn
> rule which is being changed - however my first trip (of 2) was almost
> 20 years ago, so by the sounds of things it may not have existed then?
>
> Chris
>
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