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On 28/03/2009, at 17.47, Chris Twiner <chris.twiner@...> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jonas Buys <jonas_buys@...>  
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have implemented a service that consumes notifications (i.e.  
>> NotificationConsumer capability).
>>
>> But for each <Notify> message I see a <NotifyResponse>:
>>
>> <soapenv:Envelope
>>    xmlns:soapenv="http://www.w3.org/2003/05/soap-envelope"  
>> xmlns:wsa="http://www.w3.org/2005/08/addressing">
>>    <soapenv:Header>
>>        <wsa:To>http://www.w3.org/2005/08/addressing/anonymous</
>> wsa:To>
>>        <wsa:ReplyTo>
>>            <wsa:Address>http://www.w3.org/2005/08/addressing/none</
>> wsa:Address>
>>        </wsa:ReplyTo>
>>        <wsa:MessageID>urn:uuid:9CAC3C71040F9D76F4123824223414018</
>> wsa:MessageID>
>>        <wsa:Action>http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsn/bw-2/NotificationConsumer/NotifyRequest 
>> </wsa:Action>
>>        <wsa:RelatesTo wsa:RelationshipType="http://www.w3.org/2005/08/addressing/reply 
>> ">uuid:138ee423-37af-c545-66bd-6f7cdaaece6a</wsa:RelatesTo>
>>    </soapenv:Header>
>>    <soapenv:Body>
>>        <wsnt:NotifyResponse
>>            xmlns:tns="http://axis2.platform.core.muse.apache.org"  
>> xmlns:wsnt="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsn/b-2"/>
>>    </soapenv:Body>
>> </soapenv:Envelope>
>>
>> In WsnConstants.java I found:
>> // HACK: This is not defined by the standard, but we need something  
>> to
>> //       send back to blocking clients
>> //
>> public static final QName NOTIFY_RESPONSE_QNAME =
>>        new QName(NAMESPACE_URI, "NotifyResponse", PREFIX);
>>
>> 1. Can I disable the submission of these replies in any way?
>
> Not that I'm aware of.  What I would like to add is the ability to
> return a 204 NO_RESPONSE for http based environments (i.e. all default
> Muse isolation layers, not sure how it works with access though). This
> would have to wait until 2.3.0 as it breaks compatibility (i.e. we
> need to signal that no response is actually intended).
>
>> 2. Something else, didn't spot this in WS-BN spec: is there any way  
>> to enable assured delivery for notifications?  We are planning to  
>> use then for fault-tolerant experiments in our lab.  Suppose WS-RM  
>> could come in here?  Any suggestions?
>
> RM isn't supported by Muse :-<. To be honest if you are after fault
> tolerance you will have to add your own protocol on top, RM or
> otherwise, including heartbeats etc, the best solutions tend to vary
> with each actual use case..
>
>> 3. I have a service that in its initializeCompleted() starts a  
>> thread to send notifications every 10 seconds, but after a while -  
>> when the client program (main) stops - messages stop flowing too.  
>> How can I make sure the service will persist in sending messages in  
>> time?  Log doesn't give any more info.  Subscription was made with  
>> null as time-out, so I should go on forever?
>
Please note: to utilize notification in a real world scenario, where  
you don't need a "heart beat", this not the way to implement  
notification. The example is just a proof of concept for notification,  
I don't have to code I supplied last time this subject came up, on the  
handheld but it should be in the Mail Archive.

> Only if you don't destroy both the actual underlying resource and the
> subscription manually.  Also note that you may be falling victim to
> Muse 270, which is only in head and the 270 tag, but proving that one
> way or the other is tough to do. To test it add extra logging to the
> sending thread to see if it at least thinks it should be sending
> still.
>

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